Anyone else do this?
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 08 Jul 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| seamus6387 |
08 Jul 2002 |
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Just thought I'd ask a question. I've read cards for a few years and have gotten a few raised eyebrows because I've been told I do something odd.
I use a blank card in my deck as a "Void" card. It basically stands for something that's either hidden/unknowable or in such a state of flux and can't be nailed down.
Am I the only one who does this? And what do y'all think of the idea.
TiA,
Seamus
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| kayne |
08 Jul 2002 |
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Interesting idea Seamus, reminds me of using a nlank rune when using runes... Hey - what ever works for you! I don't think I would use this idea because I find that the tarot has such a range of ideas that I don't think it would be neccessary for me.
In the Osho Zen tarot there is a card called "No-thingness" and is just a black card and I understand that you interpret it as you have suggested...
Do all decks come with a blank card? Many seem to come with a card containing some sort of advertising... would you use this if it didn't come with a blank card?
Thanks for sharing Seamus - and welcome to Aeclectic!!! :D
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| seamus6387 |
09 Jul 2002 |
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Well, the deck I happen to use came with a card that's just artwork. And I use the Arthurian tarot deck, by the way.
If I was to buy a deck that didn't come with a card I could use for a Void card I'd probably get some card stock and make one. I just toss out the card, or cards, that are just advertising.
Take It Easy,
Seamus
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| Sorceress_Jade |
09 Jul 2002 |
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Most of my decks have come with a card that is artwork or something that could easily be a devoid card... I use them as bookmarks, and they do a lovley job. :D
I might throw Thoth's in one of these days and see how that works out. His is by far the best suited (of my decks) for that purpose. Interesting concept.
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| truthsayer |
09 Jul 2002 |
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i think using the blank card is an excellent idea. i've been contemplating doing it myself. i know i like the blank rune b/c in nothingness there's endless possibility and potential.
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| HOLMES |
09 Jul 2002 |
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when ever it turns up i stop the reading and say your not supposed to know ...
then i hold my hand out and say cross my palm with silver.. MUAHAHA
but actually what i do say your not supposed to know because it will take away your life lessons and i explain what life lesson are.
it used to be whenever i got tarot deck almost there always was a blank card.
i frankly was surpised to see it back in the robin wood tarot when i got i.
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| Sullanciri2002 |
09 Jul 2002 |
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Allow me to be the devil's advocate here, considering that everyone seems to be 100 % "pro". I've always avoided using blank or void cards, as (primo) there are just too many ways to "explain" them, and (secundo) as I personally cannot a "void" state of beďng in anything related to people (it is impossible to "not be" or "not think", as every state has it's mirror-state with the two making up the whole - the yin & yang to vulgarize it somewhat), and (tertio) simply because most querents just can't get their heads around the concept of "void": it reminds them too strongly of the mumbo-jumbo that non-adepts use as the main criticism on everything even slight off of the rational path.
Hope I didn't "shock" anyone, but we can't all be of the same mind, right ?
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| wavebreaker |
09 Jul 2002 |
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Originally posted by kayne
In the Osho Zen tarot there is a card called "No-thingness" and is just a black card and I understand that you interpret it as you have suggested...
I wouldn't call the "No-thingness" card in the Osho Zen tarot a blank card, it's one of the majors (number V to be precise), so it's part of the deck.
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| tigerlily |
09 Jul 2002 |
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If all cards come up reversed in a spread, I know that I'm not supposed to know the answer for now, so I don't need a blank card for this ... and the "void" concept seems to be covered by the High Priestess - she symbolizes things that are impossible to speak about, or even to grasp intellectually. Same with runes - I don't use the blank rune, because Pertho seems to cover the blank rune's meanings well enough.
That's just me, though.
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| WolfSpirit |
09 Jul 2002 |
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I find the idea very original, really making your own interpretation... but I guess for myself I have to agree with Sullanciri. There's lots of possible card combinations meaning something not known (yet)/stasis or whatever you call the blank.
So I don't use it, and my books need markers too ;)
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| kayne |
09 Jul 2002 |
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Originally posted by tarotlady
I wouldn't call the "No-thingness" card in the Osho Zen tarot a blank card, it's one of the majors (number V to be precise), so it's part of the deck. Sure it is an important card! I consider every tarot card in a deck to be important and if you are adding a blank card then you consider it's importance like the rest. Perhaps it is not a 'blank' card but it is all black with no illustration...
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| HOLMES |
09 Jul 2002 |
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sure the high priestess represents a mystery force we can understand yet it also symbolizes to me that we are trying to understand it.
so that is the life lesson rght now understanding our own inuition and therefore building faith.
now when a blank card that is drama :O)
ohhhh your not supposed to know. and pick up all the cards in one swoop of your hands. nothing get the message acoss more :O).
reversals there are many intrepations of reversal. lots of blocked energies for example.
i never heard that one lots of reversals means not supposed to know :O)
so the best thing to say is each reader has their own style who am i to critize more light to you all :O)
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| wavebreaker |
09 Jul 2002 |
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Originally posted by kayne
Sure it is an important card! I consider every tarot card in a deck to be important and if you are adding a blank card then you consider it's importance like the rest. Perhaps it is not a 'blank' card but it is all black with no illustration...
Yes, it's very black... ;)
I don't see it as a "blank" card in the sense that it's not an extra card added to the deck, which I think is what Seamus meant.
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| MeeWah |
09 Jul 2002 |
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Seamus6387: Your practice reminds me of what I do with the Hanson-Roberts, which has a "preface" card to the deck. I use it as "The Unknowable", similar to the blank rune concept. It has resulted in some interesting readings.
The Chinese Tarot also has a lovely prefacing card that could conceivably be used in the same way, but I have not been moved to do so with this deck.
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| MeeWah |
09 Jul 2002 |
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Kayne: I tend to see the use of such a card as the absence of Light, or Knowledge. As being indicative of "not at this time"; "no information available" depending on where it falls within a spread. A reversal can lend itself to that type of concept.
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| tigerlily |
09 Jul 2002 |
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Originally posted by HOLMES
reversals there are many intrepations of reversal. lots of blocked energies for example.
i never heard that one lots of reversals means not supposed to know :O)
Not *lots* of reversals - only if *all* cards turn up reversed in a spread, *then* I know I don't get an answer (happened to me in the group reading - more than once, btw; guess it wasn't my business )
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| Trogon |
28 Aug 2002 |
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Originally posted by seamus6387
I use a blank card in my deck as a "Void" card. It basically stands for something that's either hidden/unknowable or in such a state of flux and can't be nailed down.
Am I the only one who does this? And what do y'all think of the idea.
Ah... here I am a newcomer to the A.T. and I've already found answers to one of my main questions. I was wondering about this as well.... The friend who had gotten me hooked on Tarot used this blank card as well, and basically with the same interpretation which seamus mentioned. I had also been wondering if anyone else used this - I guess they do.
Now... how is a newcomer supposed to post anything if all of their questions have already been answered??? ;) Thanks for the input on this question. I feel that I will probably remove it from my deck since (as was mentioned by tigerlilly) the High Priestess seems to cover this idea of the unknown at work.
It's interesting... I've never yet had this card (the blank one) come up in a reading.
(p.s. I'm hoping that my original, accidental, click on the submit button was stopped in time - if not, I apologize for posting just the quoted text... :| )
Trogon
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| Jewel |
29 Aug 2002 |
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Originally posted by Sorceress_Jade
Most of my decks have come with a card that is artwork or something that could easily be a devoid card... I use them as bookmarks, and they do a lovley job. :D
*ROFLMAO* so do I :)
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| Laurel |
29 Aug 2002 |
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I stick to the original 22 or 78 cards for personal reasons.
Laurel
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