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Just say "Tarot"

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 30 Aug 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Kyrielle  30 Aug 2002 
Here's a weird little question from the performance artist who studies linguistics as a hobby:

How do you say Tarot?

Does the first syllable rhyme with bear or bar? Is the second syllable "oh" or "uht?"

I think it would be interesting to see if there's any pattern to the pronunciations of people in different regions and countries. As I understand it, there's no wrong way to pronounce it. I was curious as to how it does get pronounced.

So does it rhyme with parrot, or pharaoh, or borrow, or something else?

I'm a "rhymes with pharaoh" person (from central US).

-- Kyrielle 


Phoenix  31 Aug 2002 
I pronounce it like I would pronounce pharaoh. I believe the actual word Tarot comes from the French. 


zorya  31 Aug 2002 
i'm from the midwest, usa, and i pronounce it

tuh ROE 


truthsayer  31 Aug 2002 
i'm on the southeast coast and i pronounce it "tear-oh" or like pharoah. but i know ppl who call it tear-it like you're saying carrot.
i know ppl who say tuh-ROE. we all come from the same area.it seems to have something to do w/ education and socio-economic status than region of the country imho. i figure its like what mom says about out of towners to the same town she's never left,"i know somebody isn't from here when they call a "pecan" (as in pea can ;) ) a puh-cahn. everybody knows its a pea-can!" i always called my aunt my "ant" until i left home and got around ppl who said "ahnt". guess i'm like one of those foreigners now... 


midnightmerry  31 Aug 2002 
I'm a pharaoh tarot and a puh-cahn pecan gal. 


jade  31 Aug 2002 
bear-oh

british columbia, canada above washington. 


the hermit  31 Aug 2002 
the "american" dictionary shows—

tar' o or ta ro' as both being acceptable as far as the accented syllable

the "a" is not long but pronounced as in "at"
the "o" is long and pronounced as in "oh"

therefore--

TAR-oh
or
ta-ROE



by the way it also says the "e" in "pecan" is a long "e" as in “pea”
and once again either syllable can be accented...

so it's PEA-kan or pea-KAN

I know, I know... it's that dog-gone virgonian streak in me :D 


jade  31 Aug 2002 
hermit gets a biscuit! for his very informative post :) 


Laurel  31 Aug 2002 
tarot like pharaoh 


Starfish  31 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Laurel
tarot like pharaoh


That's how I pronounce it too.

:TWOR Starfish 


Umbrae  31 Aug 2002 
There are some parts of the US where the correct pronunciation is: Tert. 


VGimlet  31 Aug 2002 
Tarot like pharoah
fer sure, fer sure. ;) 


Sam  31 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Laurel
tarot like pharaoh


Quote:
Originally posted by Starfish


That's how I pronounce it too.

:TWOR Starfish


same here. 


Faerie Lin  31 Aug 2002 
tarot like pharoah here too!

I say PEE-can like pee in a can (hehehe) though I do like hearing people say it like "pah-con" 'cause it reminds me of a chicken clucking hehehehehe.

Lin 


fairyhedgehog  31 Aug 2002 
Oh my word! I'd only ever heard the British pronunciation, which is like "barrow" ('a' as in 'cat', 'ot' like the 'o' in 'no').

Btw, I don't accept dictionaries as being prescriptive only descriptive. So if we don't follow the dictionary we are right and it is wrong :D 


midnightmerry  31 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by the hermit

by the way it also says the "e" in "pecan" is a long "e" as in “pea”
and once again either syllable can be accented...

so it's PEA-kan or pea-KAN

I know, I know... it's that dog-gone virgonian streak in me :D



Hi Hermit,

I listened to my Bostonian step-mother say PEA-can all my life while the rest of the family staunchly stood by Peh-khan (or as someone else tried to write it: Puh-khan).

My dictionary (Merriam Webster) does not list PEA-can as an accepted form of pronounciation; it has either:

pi-'khan or

pi-kan


The first being very close to how I pronounce the word. I think any of these, PEA-can, Pi-khan, or Pi-kan are acceptable. 


Pollux  31 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by the hermit
(...)
the "a" is not long but pronounced as in "at"
the "o" is long and pronounced as in "oh"
(...)
ta-ROE
 


Moose  31 Aug 2002 
I'm a Pharaoh Tarot person.

I've lived in Nova Scotia, Boston and Staten Island-----you probably wouldn't recognize my pronunciation of Pharaoh never mind Tarot.

I'll skip pecan.

Blessings...............Moose 


Royal Cat  31 Aug 2002 
Midwest, USA

Bear-oh and pea-khan

:)
Cat 


Kaz  31 Aug 2002 
i say it the french way, anyone can do the fonetics for that one???
most ppl do here i believe.....

kaz 


the hermit  31 Aug 2002 
you say potato...

I say french fries :D 


Royal Cat  31 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by the hermit
you say potato...

I say french fries :D


LOL :D
Pass the ketchup/catsup/catchsup 


DarkElectric  31 Aug 2002 
Barrow-Tarot, and Pee-khan! Also, Cah, as in what you drive, after you drive it, you Pahk it. Neah the shoah. The beach, ya know! Blessings, Dhak. (MassaCHOOOOOOOOsetts!) 


Strega  31 Aug 2002 
LOL DarkElectric! 


RedWood  31 Aug 2002 
Tarot as in Pharoah eatin' puh-khan peye. Southeast Michigan..From West "By Gawd" Virginia. 


Strega  31 Aug 2002 
I agree with truthsayer. "It seems to have something to do with education and socio-economic status than region of the country."

It's Tarot like pharoah for me. But I've heard people (in the Philippines) say Tarot as in carrot. :) 


midnightmerry  01 Sep 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by DarkElectric
Barrow-Tarot, and Pee-khan! Also, Cah, as in what you drive, after you drive it, you Pahk it. Neah the shoah. The beach, ya know! Blessings, Dhak. (MassaCHOOOOOOOOsetts!)



OMG Dark!!! I was laughing so hard reading your post! I felt like I was a kid again listening to my step-mom from Boston!! Poor thing was the only Northerner in a Southern family and we used to tease her about her pahking the cah by the yahd while the squeeerolls (squirrels) played nearby.

Thanks for the laugh. 


Marion  01 Sep 2002 
puh-cauhn
tare-oh
and roof, not ruff
I spoke with someone recently, and it literally took me a few seconds to realize that they were using the word tarot. They said what sounded like tar-uh. Falling accent throughout. I not only say tare-oh, but use a rising accent in the middle, falling slightly at the end. Interesting regional differences. 


midnightmerry  01 Sep 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Strega
I agree with truthsayer. "It seems to have something to do with education and socio-economic status than region of the country."




And how did you come to this conclusion? I, for one, have seen very little educational and social-economic status information offered during this thread. So what are you & Truth basing this statement on? 


Strega  01 Sep 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by midnightmerry
And how did you come to this conclusion? I, for one, have seen very little educational and social-economic status information offered during this thread. So what are you & Truth basing this statement on?
It wasn't a "conclusion", but one of the MANY possibilities based on the fact that people from the same area do (sometimes) pronounce the same words differently. :) 


Kiama  01 Sep 2002 
I'm British, and I say it like FairyHedgehog, to rhyme with 'barrow'...

So: 'Ta-ROE) (Short 'a', and the 'o' as in 'bow and arrow')

Kiama 


Kazz  03 Sep 2002 
I think it comes down to the accent!!


Anyhow this little aussie says it like "Barrow"


Cheers
Kazz


:TQC 


jmd  03 Sep 2002 
Reading this thread, I found myself asking so often: but what is your pronounciation of 'pharoah' from which the comparison is made?

I tend to pronounce it with the accent on the first syllable: TA-roe

The 'A' as in the French 'A', as in Car or Aha! (not the 'short' a of 'cat'), and the 'o' as in Do (the note) or the Christmas 'HohHohHoh!'.

Most people around Melbourne which I know tend to a similar pronounciation, though there are variations. 


catlin  03 Sep 2002 
I pronounce it in the French way that is with skipping the final t so it is "Taro" (with a long "oh" at the end).

We Germans can also discuss if the word "tarot" is neutre, feminine or masculin (remember the story Mark Twain wrote about German words)? At least you English-speaking folk do not have to bother with that! 


midnightmerry  03 Sep 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Strega
based on the fact that people from the same area do (sometimes) pronounce the same words differently. :)



Ahhhh! I was just curious and I was kind of hoping you did have some information to back this supposition- it's the anthropological training I have, I think. 


Jewel  03 Sep 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by truthsayer
i'm on the southeast coast and i pronounce it "tear-oh" or like pharoah. but i know ppl who call it tear-it like you're saying carrot.
i know ppl who say tuh-ROE. we all come from the same area.it seems to have something to do w/ education and socio-economic status than region of the country imho. i figure its like what mom says about out of towners to the same town she's never left,"i know somebody isn't from here when they call a "pecan" (as in pea can ;) ) a puh-cahn. everybody knows its a pea-can!" i always called my aunt my "ant" until i left home and got around ppl who said "ahnt". guess i'm like one of those foreigners now...


*LOL* ... well as for Tarot I pronounce it "tear-oh" like pharoah also. I pronouce pecan as "puh-can" (I don't care what you say Truthsayer ~giggles~ ;)) and my ant is my "ant" ... like the pesky little picnic creatures but she does not try to crawl on my food :P 


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