Monty Python and the Holy Tarot

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 24 Aug 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Violet Gargoyle	24 Aug 2002
Is there a Monty Python Tarot out there? If not, do you think there should be one? Who would be the Fool in Monty Python? John Cleese at his desk?

Mojo	24 Aug 2002
John Cleese, yes. But at the Minister of Silly Walks.

Jeannette	24 Aug 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Violet Gargoyle Is there a Monty Python Tarot out there?... I dunno of any dedicated MP tarot, but here's tip-of-the-hat from Sarah Ovenall: http://www.thefool.com/vr/index.asp?viewcard=12t [and to answer your other question: yes, of [i]course[/i] there should be a Monty Python tarot! It seems so obvious... why hadn't anyone thought of it before...?] -- Jeannette http://www.tarotgarden.com ____________________________ ...I didn't really want to be a tarot seller... I wanted to be... a lumberjack!

WolfSpirit	25 Aug 2002
John Cleese would be a good fool ! Michael Palin should be the hierophant in his Spanish Inquisition act (one of my favourites)

wavebreaker	25 Aug 2002
Yes, there has to be a Monty Python tarot! :D I think Brian from The Life of Brian should be the Fool.

Laurel	25 Aug 2002
*has begun to drool just thinking about how awesome a Monty Python deck would be* Laurel

Maan	25 Aug 2002
Don't worry this decks will be there " always look at the bright side of life....whisle whisle ..... :D

Violet Gargoyle	25 Aug 2002
Quote: Originally posted by tarotlady Yes, there has to be a Monty Python tarot! :D I think Brian from The Life of Brian should be the Fool. Oooh thats a good one! I had already thought of the "It's" Man (Michael Palin) as the Hermit. and "Tim" (John Cleese) as the Magician. Knight of Swords? The Knights who say Ni!

Umbrae	25 Aug 2002
The real test is where to place the late great Eric Idle? ...and do props, such as the dead parakeet, and the little furry rabbit with sharp pointy teeth get to be in the majors or minors... Just thinking about it..."My brain hurts!"

Violet Gargoyle	25 Aug 2002
Eric Idle- The Heirophant for the Chracter in Meaning of Life? ("Just remember that the universe is expanding and expanding...") or would that be the World? Sir Robin as the Chariot- Because he bravely ran away away. Although I always prefered the Queen Victoria Race...... Or Judgement- Bring out your dead (Bong)

wavebreaker	25 Aug 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Umbrae The real test is where to place the late great Eric Idle? Don't you mean Graham Chapman? As far as I know, Eric Idle is still among us, or did I miss something?? Death could be the "Bring out your dead!" scene from The Holy Grail... ;)

Umbrae	25 Aug 2002
Quote: Originally posted by tarotlady Don't you mean Graham Chapman? As far as I know, Eric Idle is still among us, or did I miss something?? [/i] ... ;) This is a momentous occasion! We have to do the right you know, have a brass band (oooh, Liberty Bell March would be appropriate), then a fanfare…then the announcement. Umbrae is a man. Umbrae is WRONG! Arrr oh en-gee wrong! My brain was saying Graham Chapman, picturing Graham Chapman and typed Eric Idle… I am so embarrassed!

wavebreaker	25 Aug 2002
Well, I'm glad you were wrong Umbrae, otherwise it would have meant another member of Monty Python had left us! ;)

midnightmerry	25 Aug 2002
NI!

Violet Gargoyle	25 Aug 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Umbrae This is a momentous occasion! We have to do the right you know, have a brass band (oooh, Liberty Bell March would be appropriate), then a fanfare…then the announcement. Umbrae is a man. Umbrae is WRONG! Arrr oh en-gee wrong! My brain was saying Graham Chapman, picturing Graham Chapman and typed Eric Idle… I am so embarrassed! I had wondered about that, but since we were in a Python frame of mind I though that Eric would have been flattered to be considered "Late, Great". (I E, I thought you were joking) As far as Death goes, you have the Bring out your dead. You also have the Grim Reaper from "Meaning of Life" - or a picture of the Salmon Mousse.....

Jeannette	25 Aug 2002
Quote: Originally posted by midnightmerry NI! Ah, what sad times these are when tarotists can post "NI!" to a poor, helpless eList... }) :D -- Jeannette http://www.tarotgarden.com ____________________________ Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

Kiama	25 Aug 2002
Justice could be the 'Witch Village' from Holy Grail, where they dress the 'witch' up, and try to wok out how to try her... He he... And what about the solitary Knight that says Noo???!!!! The Black Knight from Holy Grail could be... Strength.... No, no longer the Knights who say Ni! They are... The Knights who say... Ickyickyfetangzeboinging! Hee hee... My boyf thinks that Terry Gillingham (The guy who does all the artistry for the Monty Python films) should do the deck! Kiama

wavebreaker	25 Aug 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Kiama Hee hee... My boyf thinks that Terry Gillingham (The guy who does all the artistry for the Monty Python films) should do the deck! Yes, and then the Tower could be the famous Python foot! Or a 16 ton weight of course... :D

Umbrae	25 Aug 2002
A Terry Gillingham deck...remember the imagery in "The Fisher King"?

amyel	25 Aug 2002
Okay, how 'bout the mother who pops out her 13th baby while cooking from "The Meaning of Life" as The Empress???? *amyel starts humming "Every sperm is sacred....*

DollChica	25 Aug 2002
And one of the suits can be...SPAM! Just imagine...a divine hand raising out of the cloud, in it perched a can of spam!

Violet Gargoyle	25 Aug 2002
Quote: Originally posted by amyel Okay, how 'bout the mother who pops out her 13th baby while cooking from "The Meaning of Life" as The Empress???? *amyel starts humming "Every sperm is sacred....* You could also use Terry Jones as the High Priestess, if you want to count Brian's Mother.... And Micheal Palin as Emporer What's his face from Life of Brian....

Liliana	25 Aug 2002
When brough up elsewhere my suggestion for the tower was when the huge rabbit dropped on Patsy in the Holy Grail One of the female cards has to be the only female cast meber, you know the big breasted blonde, i always admired her and the crap she had to put up weith hehe :THP

Jeannette	25 Aug 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Liliana ...One of the female cards has to be the only female cast meber, you know the big breasted blonde, i always admired her and the crap she had to put up weith hehe... Carol Cleveland. I was thinking that perhaps her "Zoot" character from Holy Grail might actually be a good one for the Devil card ("Oh, bad Zoot, naughty Zoot! She's been using the grail beacon again...!") -- Jeannette http://www.tarotgarden.com

Kiama	26 Aug 2002
Death from Monty Python's Meaning of Life just HAS to be death. Doh! Hey, along the lines of using humourous films, my bofirend and I thought that we'd like to see a Discworld deck . So, it's not a film, but books, but it would still be a great. Of course we'd get the usual artist guy to do the deck artwork... Here's what we came up with so far... Fool: Rincewind Magcian: Patrician HPS: Granny Weatherwax Empress: Nanny Ogg Emperor: Vimes HP: The Librarian Lovers: Mort, Princess Kali, Vanessa(?) Chariot: Luggage Strength: Cohen the Barbarian and the Silver Horde Hermit: Lenard de Quirm Justice: The Watch Death: Death. Of course. And Binky and Death of Rats. Devil: Astfgl Tower: Cori Celesti Sun: Captain Carrot Judgement: The 'death' of the Silver Horde, when they steal the Valkyrie's horses. World: The Great A'Tuinn *ickyickyfetangzeboingoing* Kiama

Violet Gargoyle	26 Aug 2002
I remember playing the Discworld game on my friends playstation some years ago. It had Eric Idles voice all through it. Monry Python's Sun would probably be Terry Gilliam's- Remember the cartoon when the guy goes "What a love-ly day!" The Lovers would be that married couple buying a mattress, but you cant say matress or the salesman will sing with a bucket on his head......

amyel	27 Aug 2002
Don't forget "Bicycle Repairman". He has to be in the deck somewhere, but I don"t know as what!

AmounrA	27 Aug 2002
"Don't forget "Bicycle Repairman". He has to be in the deck somewhere, but I don"t know as what!" 'chariot?' :-)

Alissa	27 Aug 2002
This is hilarious! How about you change the Cups to Coconuts, tie them together on a line and get some sparrows....

Violet Gargoyle	28 Aug 2002
Another version of the Tower could be the parrot falling off the perch...... Any of the Gumbys could be the Star or the Moon- No! No! Yes!

cricket	28 Aug 2002
What about the rabbit with long, pointy teeth? The Hermit? Knight of Swords?

Violet Gargoyle	28 Aug 2002
The Sun= God (as seen in the Holy Grail)

tabbycat	29 Aug 2002
Kiama said Quote: Hey, along the lines of using humourous films, my bofirend and I thought that we'd like to see a Discworld deck . So, it's not a film, but books, but it would still be a great. Of course we'd get the usual artist guy to do the deck artwork... Nice idea, but the guy who did the Discworld art, Josh Kirby, is late - think he died last year. I have to disagree with some of your choices, though. Rincewind deserves to be the Magician, so Twoflower could be the Fool. Granny Weatherwax is a bit long in the tooth to be the High Priestess - Magrat would be better. And we really ought to get Greebo the cat in the Majors somewhere, maybe as the Moon. Jilly

Umbrae	07 Sep 2002
While you people carry on, I have a serious question. Who has the LWB for this deck? I need help with the Eleventeenth of Spam. I cannot remember what it means, and it is crossed by the Lumberjack! Does this mean what I think it means?

fairyhedgehog	07 Sep 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Kiama Hey, along the lines of using humourous films, my bofirend and I thought that we'd like to see a Discworld I love your deck ideas! I love the patrician as the magician, cos he's a real wheeler-dealer. Although, tabbycat's idea of Twoflower as the Fool also works well, as he is the original innocent abroad (literally). Have you both read all the Discworld books?

Violet Gargoyle	07 Sep 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Umbrae While you people carry on, I have a serious question. Who has the LWB for this deck? I need help with the Eleventeenth of Spam. I cannot remember what it means, and it is crossed by the Lumberjack! Does this mean what I think it means? Ah, the Jack of Spam card indeed poses a conflict~ I think it means a Pepperpot will throw a penguin at your telly, however, since the lumberjack is involved, I would venture to guess that a vocational guidance councelor will try to slap you with a fish by the pier.

Umbrae	07 Sep 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Violet Gargoyle Ah, the Jack of Spam card indeed poses a conflict~ Oh no, I most specifically stated and made clear it was not the Jack, but the eleventeenth of Spam that was crossed by the lumberjack. I think perhaps I shall take this penguin to the pier and…Hey! My penguin’s dead! I think they threw a dead penguin through my telle!

Violet Gargoyle	07 Sep 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Umbrae I think they threw a dead penguin through my telle! No, its not. Its just resting.

Umbrae	07 Sep 2002
It's dead I tell you!

Violet Gargoyle	07 Sep 2002
No, its not! The "Singing in the Choir Invisable" card and the "Pushing up the Daisies" card are nowhere in that spread. That penguin is just restin' in its perch......

HudsonGray	07 Sep 2002
Would there by chance be a Confuse A Cat card in the same spread? That could completely change the meaning & require you to yell DINSDALE at the top of your lungs before going on to the rest of the reading. Or possibly swallow a fish, I'm not sure.

Violet Gargoyle	07 Sep 2002
No no no, there's no confuse a cat card, you are mistakenly mistaking that for the Philospher's Football Match card and confusing the Twit of the year race card in the 7th house with the Victoria Race. Now, the King of Gumbys in your past influences position is telling you that your brain must come out.

HudsonGray	07 Sep 2002
No, no! The dead parrot cancels out the 7th house & reverts it back to the penguin with or without the telly. Man! Where is that little white book! Now I'm getting confused!

Umbrae	07 Sep 2002
My brain 'urts!

HudsonGray	08 Sep 2002
Me too. Maybe we better wait for the deck to come out. Unless someone here would like to MAKE one???????????

starr	08 Sep 2002
Oh Yes , Please, someone, there has to be someone who would make this deck. Killer rabbit must be included. Starr

Diana	08 Sep 2002
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Violet Gargoyle	08 Sep 2002
Not very good at the art mediums myself- can barely get past stick figures..... Have to stick to writing. Terry Gilliam I am not.

firemaiden	15 May 2004
This thread needs to be revived. Speaking of ressurections, I'd like to know which card will be XX. Would it not be Brian himself on the cross, whistling his "Always look on the bright side of life?"

firemaiden	15 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Alissa This is hilarious! How about you change the Cups to Coconuts, tie them together on a line and get some sparrows.... The King of Coconuts must please to be King Arthur

Alissa	15 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by firemaiden This thread needs to be revived. Speaking of ressurections, I'd like to know which card will be XX. Would it not be Brian himself on the cross, whistling his "Always look on the bright side of life?" I'd love to see this as the Death card, myself. How 'bout Judgment to be the scene the "individuals" quote comes from? "You're all individuals!" "We're all individuals~! "... I'm not." Oh me... this is a blast from the past. I *do* remember this thread.... :D Great revival idea fire~!

Le_Corsair	15 May 2004
The Hanged Man would have to be Brian and Cheeky crucified, because Always Look On The Bright Side perfectly captures the serenity of the Hanged Man. Bob :THERM

Le_Corsair	15 May 2004
The Emperor could be Palin as Pilate from Life of Brian: "I have a vewy good fwiend in Wome called Biggus Dickus." Bob :THERM

Le_Corsair	15 May 2004
And for the fat man in the 9 of cups, who better than the exploding Mr. Creosote? Bob :THERM

Le_Corsair	15 May 2004
The Bridge Keeper at the Bridge of Doom would make a good Hermit, as would Palin in his opening credits costume: It's....... Bob :THERM

Macavity	15 May 2004
Heheh. Maybe we could have Thampson the Thaducee Thtwangler, Thilus the Athyrrian Athathin. or even the Theven of Thandles? Thyucks - I can't thtop thith now! :D

Persha	18 May 2004
The lovers could be John Cleese and his 'good lady wife' in the classroom scene in The Meaning of Life

firemaiden	18 May 2004
So what about Ms. Ann Elk?

Cerulean	18 May 2004
She called the Dion Fortune Tarot "The Monty Python Tarot". It's not so awful that it is good. It is inconsistently odd and humorous and yet the writing takes itself seriously. It took all of two seconds for me, winning it in a raffle, to gift it to a friend who has an odd sense of humor and wanted to place it in her mind. We could probably nominate several tarots we have different feelings about in this category! Cerulean

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