Aeclectic Members as Tarot Cards - Who becomes Which Card?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 28 Apr 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Demonesse	28 Apr 2003
I was just wondering to myself... If the members of Aeclectic - you and I and everyone else besides - were Tarot cards, who would be which Tarot card, and why? Solandia as High Priestess, perhaps? Holmes as Hermit? Diana as Ace of Swords? I wonder if this could be a poll. Then again, I suspect this thread might be moved to chat :P

meatbox666	28 Apr 2003
I feel that I am the page of cups with severe neptune influences.

jema	28 Apr 2003
i am ALL the cards:) i can't pick just one. (but if i had to i would pick temperance/art)

Major Tom	28 Apr 2003
There are a number of Aeclectic Members who already appear on tarot cards from Major Tom's Tarot. Tarotbear appears as Temperance, 5 of Cups and 8 of Cups. DarkElectric appears as Death. Blue appears as the Knight of Coins. Kiama appears as the Princess of Wands. Pollux appears as the Knight of Wands. Faunabay appears as the Queen of Coins and 2 of Coins. Greenman appears as the King of Wands. Kayne appears as 4 of Cups. Rhiannon appears as the Princess of Swords. And naturally, I appear on a number of cards. :laugh: I apologise if I've missed anyone. I have photos from both Truthsayer and Jewel still waiting for another from Faunabay for the 3 of Cups. I'm still trying to convince Diana to send me photos for the 2 of Wands and Solandia (who understandably worries about her face on the internet) to send me photos for the 3 of Wands. I've made a standing invitation to any moderator to send photos for a card (but admittedly not for a long while). I would further open this invitation to any subscriber(regardless of number of posts) or any registered member with more than 500 posts. If you fit one of these categories and fancy appearing on a tarot card - get in touch. ;) I've got less than 30 cards to do to complete the deck.

Diana	28 Apr 2003
Major Tom: I promise you, and everyone is witness, that I will be your Two of Wands. Cross my heart.

Mimers	28 Apr 2003
Major Tom, Is this your Tarot deck you are referring to, or the first Aeclectic one? What would I be? hmmm no one pops out, but it would be interesting to see what others may think. Strength perhaps. Diana, I see you as the page of cups! :) Mimers

lunalafey	28 Apr 2003
You just reminded me....a 'long' while back I thought about doing an 'Academy Award' type tarot member appointed card by way of nominations.....{at that time...Hermit would have been the Fool} Tom....I'd be on a card, but usually I'm behind the camera.....I'd have to dig to find a pic...if there is even one that would work.... hmm..who might I be? by the way I live my everyday life....QofP probably. I was one told that I was like the QofW....I can sorta relate.

Major Tom	28 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Mimers Is this your Tarot deck you are referring to, or the first Aeclectic one? I'm referring to my deck - that is - Major Tom's Tarot. Lunalafey - Would you consider having a photo taken specifically for a card? It usually works better that way. :) It should be noted all the majors are taken as are most of the courts (the exceptions being the Princess of Coins and Princess of Cups - somehow young women don't feature much in my life. :laugh: ) Most of the cards as yet not done or in progress are the pips from wands, cups and coins.

jlbvt	28 Apr 2003
Who gets to be Magician in the virtual Aeclectic deck? I think I would be a pip, but I'm not sure which one. Hey, Major Tom- Which coins are left? (in the Major Tom deck)

cricket	28 Apr 2003
*touch touch touch* I'd make a pretty good Empress right now, honest! No extra padding needed. ;) Let me know if you would like to use me for any card and I'll see what I can do.

azuremariposa	28 Apr 2003
this is now the third time i am attempting to reply to this thread...methinks i shouldn't be here, but we shall see if this goes through... i'm thinking that the members and their relative cards would be somewhat influenced by the person making the decision...for instance, i can see HOLMES as The Hermit, but i can't see Diana as the Ace of Swords...i see her as much more down to earth than that card would suggest...i could be wrong, though, as i haven't been around here that long, but i would align her more w/Pents than Swords (Queen or even Page comes to mind, regardless of age...hehe)... but that is MY view... i think lunalafey's idea of an Academy Awards-type nomination thing would be excellent to try out! elsewhere in cyberspace i took part in a nomination kind of thing that was really interesting...but then, i don't know if anyone would want to be the Devil (considering the connotations)... if anyone has read some of my posts, i know i've mentioned which card i generally use for myself...but i would be verrrrry interested in what other people see me as...(this is always fascinating, isn't it? ;) heh) and yes, cricket, i think right now you would be THE PERFECT EMPRESS!! :D ok, lets see if something prevents me from posting this, yet again...;) if it does go through, i'll bbl to post some of my "impressions" :D many blessings! ~azure

bec	28 Apr 2003
I would be the 2 pentacles, no doubt always trying to juggle things round me, always on the tip toe to tilt balance. So that is me, 2pentacles

Kaz	28 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Diana Major Tom: I promise you, and everyone is witness, that I will be your Two of Wands. Cross my heart. well, guess what, i will have my camera with me when i visit switserland.......... you better start thinking what the 2 wands should look like, i'll be happy to do the shooting :-)

Umbrae	28 Apr 2003
You know…in light of reality… I could be…#16 :smoker:

azuremariposa	28 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Umbrae You know…in light of reality… I could be…#16 :smoker: if that's the case, then i am....#15....:|

Mimers	28 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Umbrae You know…in light of reality… I could be…#16 :smoker: You know, my friend, you are not that far off. Uhummm, but to be totally honest, and he will probably take this as a compliment, the first to come to my mind as #16 was Mojo. You are the Hermit, with the clown nose, willing to preach to all who will listen. You shine the light, but let them find their own way. Diana would be my Princess of Cups. Firemaiden, hmmm, the don't mess with me kind of woman (at least that is my impression) but has total control of her faculties (until she starts drinking gargle blasters) Queen of Wands......yes Azure, you are so bubbly and happy and outgoing, You seem to me as the person that loves to be on adventure and enjoy life, yet at the same time I think you love to amaze people. You share your talents with others. I think the Magician. Solandia is definitely the High Priestess, because we never see her here. Kaz - Quiet and in the backround, yet when she does speak, it is in a giving, helpful manner. 6 of Pentacles. Me, well I see myself here as kind of the Star, and the 8 of coins. I have discovered a freedom in my spirituality and I am here to learn what I can from the 'Masters' (no pun intended, I mean, there are no Masters! Shame on me!) To hone my skills and benefit from my spiritual discoveries. jmd - The Hierophant. OMG, I didn't just call him that! What I meant, OF COURSE, was Le Pape! Who have I missed?

amyel	28 Apr 2003
Hmmm...I would be the Lovers. I'd like to be something else, but the simple truth is relationships and choices are key subjects in my life and always have been. Marriage or moving? Which parent to live with? And so it goes..... Alternatively, something in the Pentacles suite would suit me ..... not sure which card. I'd like to say 10 Pentacles, but I know I'm not there yet. :)

azuremariposa	28 Apr 2003
i'm bubbly, happy and outgoing?? really? wow...now THAT amazes me...;) hehe...must be all the smilies and exclamation points!! :D i'd be perfectly happy w/the Magician, but to be perfectly honest, i think i am the Fool...though i've never stepped off a cliff, i've had plenty of missteps on stairs...or is that stars? ;) and i've stepped in many a pile of...nevermind... {{{Mimers}}} thank you...you've brightened my day!! i definitely can see you as The Star...:D shine on you crazy diiiiiamond.... ~azure i take that back...i'm the Magician!! :D

Mimers	28 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by azuremariposa i'm bubbly, happy and outgoing?? really? wow...now THAT amazes me...;) hehe...must be all the smilies and exclamation points!! :D i'd be perfectly happy w/the Magician, but to be perfectly honest, i think i am the Fool...though i've never stepped off a cliff, i've had plenty of missteps on stairs...or is that stars? ;) and i've stepped in many a pile of...nevermind... {{{Mimers}}} thank you...you've brightened my day!! i definitely can see you as The Star...:D shine on you crazy diiiiiamond.... ~azure i take that back...i'm the Magician!! :D Holy Clifhanger Batman! I knew I should have said The Fool! That was the first one that popped into my head. I changed my mind because of all the talents you show here (your great readings). A Pink Floyd fan do we have here?

azuremariposa	28 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Mimers Holy Clifhanger Batman! I knew I should have said The Fool! That was the first one that popped into my head. I changed my mind because of all the talents you show here (your great readings). A Pink Floyd fan do we have here? it's ok...i can be a Fool w/talents...:| (but you're making me blush now, ya know...) ~azure p.s. Pink Floyd was the best concert i've ever been to in my life...Yankee Stadium...album: Division Bell...:D 'twas awesome!!

Mimers	28 Apr 2003
LET'S GO YANKEES! ! !!! I'm sorry, I couldn't help it! I didn't mean to do it Moderator!

Mojo	28 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Mimers Uhummm, but to be totally honest, and he will probably take this as a compliment, the first to come to my mind as #16 was Mojo. As much of a compliment as that is, my personal card is the Ace of Swords.... to me, it's the card that screams out, "the emperor has no clothes!" ...which fits me to a T.

Mimers	28 Apr 2003
:D Are U the Emporer or the screamer, Mojo? When U say personal card, do you mean like a soul card derived from you birthday, or just one that you connect with? Mimers

SherryZoned	28 Apr 2003
I dont know what i would be...Maybe the hedgehog on top of the 2 of wands in the Durer? does that even count? lol

azuremariposa	28 Apr 2003
Redwood, i most definitely see you as the Queen of Wands...don't ask me why, but that's what popped into my head...:D (well, mostly i pictured the kitty by her feet...heh) ~azure

SherryZoned	28 Apr 2003
Azure..actually I have had many different queen of wands cards pop up..Just out of the blue..Not asking a question..And ususally there is a tiger with the queen..Which the Tiger is one of my totem animals..so hmmm I think you are right!

Celtic_Dragon	28 Apr 2003
I will always and perhaps forever be pow.... :) er page/princess of wands, although I might be a prisoner of wands but never of war(I hope!!)

divinerguy	28 Apr 2003
In the finest traditions of self-aggrandizement, I nominate myself as the Hierophant. I love telling others what to do, and how to live their lives, while ignoring my own faults. Mea culpa.

zorya	29 Apr 2003
i'm torn between the moon and justice.

Kiama	29 Apr 2003
Zorya: I've always seen you as the High Priestess. :D Diana would be my Queen of Pentacles: In my eyes she is motherly, in a good way, practical, willing to lend a hand, and always has good advice. She knows how to mend the cut finger! Umbrae would be... The Magician. JMD... The Hierophant (Relating to his love of the history of the Tarot... And then telling all of us about it! He's basically passing on tradition, just like the HP does, and inviting us to draw our own conclusions.) Holmes, without a doubt, and with no need of explanations, is the Hermit. Meewah: Temperence, definitely. Balanced, gentle, yet to the point... Definitely. Mojo: I agree with his Ace of Swords... He has a way with words, and can cut through cr*p (Usually mine! ;)) easily. Pollux: The Lovers/Devil... Not entirely sure why. Guess it has something to do with his Tarotholism which usually encourages mine... Firemaiden: Page/Princess of Wands. Her avatar says it all! Me... Dunno... My usual card is the Queen of Wands, but I'm not sure it fits in like that when I consider me in the context of Aeclectic... Kiama

HOLMES	29 Apr 2003
using numerology i am , birthday , world card reducing to emperess. name wise, i am a personality wise (highpriestress) expression self (hierophant) hidden passions are hierophant, emperor lovers and hermit my karmic lessons comes from highpriestress, and strenght (number eight ) so those who see me as a hermit see my passions. those who see the heirophant in me see my expressions of myself my personality is i am very secret in real life, and i am a emperess influence on those i know,, yet i can smother them as well (christine jette shadow work , says for the emperess it is mother vs smother,) i mother all my friends, my nephews, but my favourite card is simply based on the hierophant of the whimiscal tarot , that monk riasing his cup to the light is me :O)

allibee	29 Apr 2003
Hmmmm ..... can the Moon look like a lighthouse at night, or a lighthouse like the Moon? I may have to listen to my inner voice on that one .... but if I do, will that mean I'm going mad? sorry .... just left the 'what card am I? ' page :O) Allison

firemaiden	29 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Mimers Firemaiden, hmmm, the don't mess with me kind of woman (at least that is my impression) but has total control of her faculties (until she starts drinking gargle blasters) Queen of Wands......yes Don't mess with me, that is.... without my help... (I don't drink gargle blasters.... but do succomb to chocolate) Well, Cosmic Toaster sees Diana as "Mom", because of her delicious swiss cheese sauce, and therefore the Empress, but I find she has the qualities of the angel of Temperance. Certainly the Queen of Pentacles fits (there is that earthy sense of humor, plus she knows how to make crêpes). I see Umbrae as the Magician/bateleur, capable of morphing into any and all the cards, so WATCH OUT. JMD is also a master morpher, but often resides in the King of Cups or Wands or Swords, and Hierophant (the good kind), and the Fool Moongold, is of course the Moon. Mojo, absolutely as the Ace of Swords. Slicingly so. Mimers, yes, I can see you as the star. Now what about Aoifie? I think I see her as the Empress. Tom, hmmm. Now what about Tom, definitely Temperance. :)

Khatruman	29 Apr 2003
~peeps his head in, wondering if someone might have an idea who he might be, seeing he may have only been passingly alluded to in the mention of gargle blasters...wonders if this means he is too enigmatic, or of no consequence... slips out again~

azuremariposa	29 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Khatruman ~peeps his head in, wondering if someone might have an idea who he might be, seeing he may have only been passingly alluded to in the mention of gargle blasters...wonders if this means he is too enigmatic, or of no consequence... slips out again~ actually, Khatruman, you were one of the first people i thought of, but you are right, you are too enigmatic and i can't make up my mind!! lol... at first, i thought Hermit (especially in light of your statement that you lurked for some time before posting), but then, i thought perhaps the Magician? hmmmm...and then Temperance popped into my mind for some reason, though i'm not entirely sure why...so, take your pick!! :D ~azure

Khatruman	29 Apr 2003
Heh heh... I like being enigmatic. This is why I usually associate myself with the Hanged Man... hard to know what to make of him sometimes. And he's looking at things the wrong way,.. or is everyone else looking at him the wrong way??? Who knows... :P

azuremariposa	29 Apr 2003
aaaaaiiiiiieeeeeeee...i soooo wanted to say the Hanged Man, but was worried you might not like that association...no matter...you've said it now....that is so funny...this seems to keep happening to me lately... ok, Khatruman is the Hanged Man...:D woot! ~azure p.s. if you're wearing a kilt whilst being "hanged" we could see those hot chili pepper boxers ;) hahahaha....}) now look who's evil...i'm telling you, i should be #15...seriously

raeanne	29 Apr 2003
Hi all, Well, I have always thought that I was very open minded and easy to get along with. I don't care what kind of life style anyone has, it just doesn't matter to me one way or the other. The rules can be strict or lenient, it doesn’t matter, but THERE HAS TO BE RULES. Structure, framework, boundaries! My year card is 22 which reduces to 4. Emperor! Give me my scepter! He he he he

Violet Gargoyle	29 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by allibee Hmmmm ..... can the Moon look like a lighthouse at night, or a lighthouse like the Moon? I may have to listen to my inner voice on that one .... but if I do, will that mean I'm going mad? sorry .... just left the 'what card am I? ' page :O) Allison Or- ahem, I know one card that sort of looks that way, if you are looking for a choice: http://www.aeclectic.net/project/2/01_wands_violetgargoyle.html If we continue lighthouses for wands, you got a whole suit there. I'm all up for being a card, Major Tom. Something tells me I can be one of the swords...If we are going numerology, er...wow- that makes me a bit of a devil....

Mimers	29 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Kiama Me... Dunno... My usual card is the Queen of Wands, but I'm not sure it fits in like that when I consider me in the context of Aeclectic... Kiama Kiama! How could I forget you? To me you are the Page of Pentacles and Justice combined. You are so open to learning plus the fact that you are in University. Also the way you always approach things with an open mind. Your tarot reveiws are always objective and informative, just like Justice would serve Quote: Originally posted by Khatruman ~peeps his head in, wondering if someone might have an idea who he might be, seeing he may have only been passingly alluded to in the mention of gargle blasters...wonders if this means he is too enigmatic, or of no consequence... slips out again~ Khat - I agree with Azure, you are a tough one. I would not think of you as the Hanged Man though. Rumer is you are a party kind of guy. I also noticed you were a little flirty in the thread where everyone posted their pictures. Knight of Cups perhaps??? What impresses me most about you is that you are a teacher. You talk about your students all the time and it is so obvious you care about them. You teach to make a difference, not so much because you are learned in the subject (which you obviously are. Who is Yeats?) That makes you in my eyes the Empress. Nuturing. Helping our young kids grow and nuturing their potential. I also see the 2 of Wands in you, because the potential begins with you for these kids. Teachers do hold the world in their hand, just like the fellow in the 2 of Wands. You also do a good job at initiating thought here on the forums! Mimers :)

zorya	29 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Kiama Zorya: I've always seen you as the High Priestess. :D Me... Dunno... My usual card is the Queen of Wands, but I'm not sure it fits in like that when I consider me in the context of Aeclectic... Kiama ooooo the hp! me??? thank you kiama, that is very flattering! mimers beat me to it, but i was thinking the page of pents for you as well. forever the student and full of potential. since others want the moon, i'll eliminate that one from my choices, lol. as far as umbrae....hmmm... emperor, hierophant, magician, fool ....... i think firemaiden has a good point, he is "capable of morphing into any and all the cards". ... so maybe we should have a special deck just for him... 'the tarot of umbrae' !

Demonesse	29 Apr 2003
Well! This thread hasn't been moved to chat after all! Miracles do happen. Hail to benevolent moderators and praise to the cards! }) Moongold I'd actually nominate for the Sun - clarity, optimism. MeeWah as Temperance sounds good, or the Star - a spot of radiance into our lives :) Pollux as the Knight of Wands :P (Pollux, I'm sure you're going to tell me how wrong I am! Lol) Kiama is the Princess of Swords! Youthful, yet intelligent beyond mere years. Umbrae is the Magician! Shake that wand!

Mojo	29 Apr 2003
Why does everyone get so fixated on the majors and court cards? I think there are far more possibilities to be found in the pips. I see... ...MeeWah as the 3 of Wands ...Umbrae as the 8 of Cups ...Diana as the 8 of Pentacles ...Thirteen as the 3 of Pentacles ...Kiama as the 2 of Pentacles ...Aoife as the 8 of Wands ...Alex as the 2 of Wands ...Major Tom as the Ace of Wands ...Holmes as the 4 of Swords ...Pollux as the 6 of Cups ...Firemaiden as the 7 of Pentacles ...Khatruman as the 9 of Cups ...Meatbox666 as the 5 of Wands And sorry, I don't really know the rest of you well enough to match you up with a card yet.

Mimers	29 Apr 2003
Hi Mojo, I am curious. Would you be willing to share why you picked these cards? I have only been here a few months now, and I feel this is a great way to get to know people. Thanks, Mimi

Violet Gargoyle	29 Apr 2003
That's okay, Mojo, I am more of a lurker sometimes- I take your point as well. I have always been a been partial to the 10 cards, especially the swords or cups. My dual nature I guess. ....Still, something rather....tempting..... about being #15. *Is Vi-Ga turning over to the dark side?* Naaahhhhh.

MeeWah	29 Apr 2003
Demonesse: Thanks for the compliment :) I am very fond of both those cards, but they rarely show up. Mojo: I tend to see minors as rather under-rated. Have seen them as representing people, too, especially in readings for others. (At different times in my life, 3-Swords represented me but with different meanings.) Would ye care to further elaborate on your choices? They are very interesting & I do think we would all benefit from your insight, truly.

firemaiden	30 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Mojo ...Firemaiden as the 7 of Pentacles Hmmmm. This is one of those cards I rarely see in readings and whose meaning is muffled and muddy to me. I must need to look at it! In my current limited understanding of this card, I see that it describes aspects of my current situation well, but I don't get how it can represent a whole person.

allibee	30 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Violet Gargoyle Or- ahem, I know one card that sort of looks that way, if you are looking for a choice: http://www.aeclectic.net/project/2/01_wands_violetgargoyle.html If we continue lighthouses for wands, you got a whole suit there. Thats a really cool pic there VG :O), and it's equally as cool as my avatar - courtesy of the mighty Kayne :) - but I see where you are coming from. Allison

Pollux	30 Apr 2003
No Demo, you are quite right! I keep boasting that the Knight of Wands and Swords represent me. Sometimes the enthusiastic drama queen comes forth, other times it's the ruthless idiot with a sense of loneliness... hehehe Mojo, I would be curious to know why 6 of Cups... but hey maybe I take the gist! *LOL* I always felt like the baby of the Forum, this is true. The curious thorsty-for-knowledge but easily bored troublemaker... }) Would love to know more! Expect a Pm from me! ;)

Maan	30 Apr 2003
Wel Pollux i see you more as the knight of wands...firy mixture.... ;) Tarotlady to me would be the ace of swords mixed with the queen of penacles Hmm Diana would be the magican. Kaz i see as queen of swords and the hermit. And Hedera would be queen of wands Jenny Li would be a queen of pentacles with a touch of six of pentacles and Jema the hermit meets the empress..... Rostie would be the artisic page of cups and the fool can't seem to fit one card each person. Somehow thats to little...:) can't think of any more right now

Ravenswing	30 Apr 2003
hmmmmm.... Through high school I wore a denim jacket with the rider Magician painted on the back... it disintegrated by my second year in college. So I think I've gone through that one.... I'm rather partial to the Queen of Cups-- always the card that makes or breaks a deck. And suits (LOL!!) me well... Then again, there's the 6 of swords a la Crowley-ish (But I get in a lot of trouble if I think too much...) Guess I might stick with the Queen...... (oh yes, lady blue-- much agreed on the floyd. But my show was an indoor one just before 'shine on'... they did the entire dark side of the moon album... awesome) fly well get wet Raven

DarkElectric	30 Apr 2003
I would see Tarotphelia as Justice, because she cuts through the BS like nobody else I know, and tries to be fair to everyone. Holmes I would see as the High Priestess. He has access to hidden knowledge, the depths of which not even HE is aware. Faerie Lin I would see as the 3 of Pents. Young, just starting out, and doing a really great job building things correctly. Napaea would be the Star, because she's eternally hopeful, enthusiastic, and sweet natured. Diana seems really Queen of Pentacles to me. Gracious, bountiful, and kind. Mee Wah impresses me as Queen of Cups, with compassion and love just flowing from her like the deep ocean. Umbrae, definitely #16. And Strength too. Kiama is so Princess of Swords to me, her ideas sparkle with clarity and energy. Firemaiden I would see as the Queen of Swords, because she has such powerful energy, a great mind, and she knows exactly what to do with it. A creative force to be reckoned with. Red Emma would be the Knight of Swords, because she bravely charges in and challenges fear with intellegence and courage. Khatruman, Hanged man, no doubt. Moongold I see as the Princess of Cups, because she cares with the truest, youthful enthusiasm. Zorya would be the 6 of Swords, helping lead people to safety, from out of the darkness into the light. Cricket is DEFINITELY the Empress. Pollux is the Knight of Cups, a beautiful, charming man who embodies the soul of true romance. Divinerguy has the 8 of Pentacles thing going on. He's a hardworking, successful guy, and keeps on truckin' no matter what. Major Tom I see as Hierophant, in a good way. A man of steady habits. And me? Still Death, for lots of reasons. And, I'm a Fool, I admit it. Apologies to friends whom I've missed.

firemaiden	30 Apr 2003
Bravo Dark Electric! I like it! I like all of your caracterizations. Perhaps you will one day explain why you chose for yourself the Death Card?

Mojo	30 Apr 2003
OK... the explanations.... ...MeeWah as the 3 of Wands Quiet confidence, and unforced authority... whether the ships are coming in, going out or just passing by, just accepts what life offers and seeks to learn from the lesson ...Umbrae as the 8 of Cups "Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead" ...Diana as the 8 of Pentacles Ability to focus, holds herself to a higher standard than others hold her to ...Thirteen as the 3 of Pentacles No nonsense and all about maintaining the momentum ...Kiama as the 2 of Pentacles Always weighing the options, trying out new things, dancing on the edge ...Aoife as the 8 of Wands Has the ability to stir things up... not afraid to jump in even when the target isn't in sight ...Alex as the 2 of Wands Likes to view things from above... maintains a high profile ...Major Tom as the Ace of Wands Comes in, plants a seed, watches it grow ...Holmes as the 4 of Swords Introspective, calm and calming ...Pollux as the 6 of Cups Playful and childlike, with an active imagination ...Firemaiden as the 7 of Pentacles Persistent and analytical. Maybe a bit too analytical for her own good sometimes? ...Khatruman as the 9 of Cups Presents one image on the surface with surprises underneath ...Meatbox666 as the 5 of Wands Creative chaos... shaking things up

firemaiden	01 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Mojo OK... the explanations.... ...Firemaiden as the 7 of Pentacles Persistent and analytical. Maybe a bit too analytical for her own good sometimes? hmmm: that's a rather limiting vision, isn't it, Mojo. How about analytical + synthetical + experiential + intuitive + creative _________ =the seven of pentacles fed and watered by LE DIABLE and LE MAT, warmed by THE SUN and cooled by the High Priestess.

Kiama	01 May 2003
He he, I think Mojo is brilliant at character analysis... (Of some people) And I would agree with him on many, esp. Meewah's and Diana's. I also really enjoyed some of the new insights I gained from reading Mojo's assessment there... Though I must admit, there are many things I could say about Firemaiden (All good!) but overly analytical I've never seen her as... I must admit, 2 of Pentacles is never a card I've understood properly... I've always been afraid of 'dancing on the edge', despite seeming to be doing it constantly! Kiama

Mojo	01 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by firemaiden hmmm: that's a rather limiting vision, isn't it, Mojo. How about analytical + synthetical + experiential + intuitive + creative _________ =the seven of pentacles fed and watered by LE DIABLE and LE MAT, warmed by THE SUN and cooled by the High Priestess. Quote: Originally posted by Mojo Maybe a bit too analytical for her own good sometimes? I rest my case.

jmd	02 May 2003
I can see that Mojo is seeing certain aspects of individuals, and from these determining a particular card which may somehow reflect this perception. From the above posts, however, what is also apparent is the possible closure which any such excercise may produce. We can each be each of the cards. Yes, Firemaiden is undoubtedly 'persistent and analytical' (to quote Mojo) - but she has also, to be sure, those other qualities which broadens these two quite constrictive ones - qualities which, as she mentions are nourished and watered, warmed and cooled by other cards. Each of us have aspects of each of the cards - and each can on occasions be more constrained or be seen to be constrained by various... I sense that, with the approaching Mercurial crossing across the face of the Sun, we may need to more carefully consider the fullness of the feeling life of others in our community... I realise I am contributing to the thread a little off topic... my apologies - I was responding to what I perceived to be a combination of hurt and the possibility of also reading Mojo's post in a somewhat sexist way - especially with this immanent astrological phenomenon.

Diana	02 May 2003
Personally, I was a little worried when I saw this thread start up. I was hoping that no-one would get hurt. It's a little bit like putting people in boxes with labels. People aren't like that - we change, fluctuate and evolve. And people often just see other people through their own lenses. They can sometimes be dusty or old or unfocused (the lenses I mean, not the people! :laugh: ).

DarkElectric	02 May 2003
The admission! I am constantly being forced by circumstance to reinvent myself, and every time it's a major rebirth. I have died a thousand times, but never as a coward, (and usually onstage...) I have an...understanding...with Death, you might say, at least as far as that condition concerns me personally. My negotiations with Her have been successful on more than one occasion (I'm still here). Scorpio Female. I was born on Samhain. In my tradition, this is one of the times when the veil between the worlds is at it's thinnest. My mom says that the fae sent me to her, because she was unable to have a child, and asked for help. She got me, and it's been pretty weird ever since. I work well with Death energies, and in fact, one aspect of my path may very well be in that direction. A well known Goddess of Crossroads is my primary Patroness, as is Oya, who is also a guardian of Death mysteries. And, I'm fascinated by the veil, the polarities of death, life, and what constitutes that nebulous in between. As far as the Fool goes, well, I can be downright foolish at times :)

isthmus nekoi	02 May 2003
If zorya is a court card, I'd go for queen of cups b/c of her incredible Neptunian gifts and overall diplomacy. Umbrae gets Tower by default through a triple sun/moon/ASC Aries :P Moongold as Moon! Although not in the delusional sense! Minderwiz as the Hierophant in a good way - patient teacher of astrology and guide to all us astro newbies. On this board, I'd say I project as a Page of Pents/Swords - a curious student! Or maybe knight of swords when I mouth off too much :P

Silverlotus	02 May 2003
I'd like to volunter for the Three of Swords. :) It looks like a sad card, but there are a lot of lessons in it. I won't claim to have learned those lessons, but I'm trying.

Moongold	02 May 2003
Hmmmm............ MeeWah is the Empress. The Empress is very close to the source but has wonderful humanity as well. Marion is Temperance always balanced (intellect and strength) but with an uncanny perspective that seems to come from outside this dimension. Holmes is Hermit, a channel for inner wisdom. Umbrae is Hierophant, an unusual archetype of inner truth, with the ascerbity and style of the ancient teachers Minderwiz is the Emperor - an indisputable authority in astrology Diana is Justice, in many ways the good conscience of Aeclectic. Firemaiden is the Magician - quick as silver but with so much knowledge, able to creatively rise to any occasion Demonesse is the Princess of Swords - the sharp mind and the mystery being the predominent factors Thirteen is Star, quietly illumining the night Isthmus is the Princess/Prince of Cups - I decided to go for the Scorpio aspect but it could have been Swords (intellect) Alex is the Queen of Swords - the sharp intellect and the strength being the predominent factors Pollux has already told me he is the Knight of Swords I don't feel that I know others well enough to hazard a guess. Moongold

Moongold	03 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Diana And people often just see other people through their own lenses. They can sometimes be dusty or old or unfocused (the lenses I mean, not the people! :laugh: ). The people can be dusty, young and unfocused too, Diana (where are my spectacles?) I think we always see other people through our own lens. It's very hard to completely neutralise the influence of class, age, culture and gender. And then there are our personal projections. Some of this is deeply unconscious. I sort of took it for granted that people realise that we are not one dimensional. It would be fun to get a skit together and ask people to act out their favourite Tarot character. I would be fun to have a tea party of half a dozen Queen Wands or Queen Swords types :laugh:. It is interesting to see how others see us, affectionately as well as realistically. Moongold

Macavity	03 May 2003
I've often found that (broadly speaking) astrology works well in characterising folk. I tend to look at the Crowley/Thoth way of assigning Decans to cards. Mine gives: King of Swords, Seven of Pentacles, Hierophant. My only comment: "Somehow THAT figures"! }) Macavity

Moongold	03 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Diana Personally, I was a little worried when I saw this thread start up. I was hoping that no-one would get hurt. It's a little bit like putting people in boxes with labels. People aren't like that - we change, fluctuate and evolve. And people often just see other people through their own lenses. They can sometimes be dusty or old or unfocused (the lenses I mean, not the people! :laugh: ). Diana, I misread what you said and thought you were associating older people with one dimensional views. I did have my spectacles on as well. My apologies. My intention was more to respond to the impression that this exercise could be seen as one dimensional. I hope people don't see it as that but simply some light hearted fun. Certainly I had no intention to distress anyone and will be more careful with my reading the next time. Moongold

Diana	03 May 2003
Oh Moongold! :) I am the one who am sorry if my words were not clear. Perhaps other people also misread me. This thread has stayed, mostly, light-hearted for which I am grateful. I was just worried at first that people would get hurt by other people's judgements on them when they hadn't asked for them. Especially as this is not a subscriber-only thread and can be viewed by all and sundry, even non-members. But if we can all be Fools here, then that's okay!

firemaiden	03 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Macavity I've often found that (broadly speaking) astrology works well in characterising folk. I tend to look at the Crowley/Thoth way of assigning Decans to cards. Mine gives: King of Swords, Seven of Pentacles, Hierophant. My only comment: "Somehow THAT figures"! }) Macavity Oh Macavity, that is so interesting. I don't know anything about astrology. How did you get those three cards for you from the Crowley deck? Oh, oh, oh, I want to know, I want to know!

Moongold	03 May 2003
Women are not supposed to be interested in these things. However because several hundred thousand of us died as witches in the Inquisition years in Europe and later I'm going to let you in on a few more secrets. I think you've definitely earned the right to know According to Burger & Fieburg Complete Book of Tarot Spreads, the astrological assignations for your birthdates are as follows: If If I discover any more arcane secrets just lying around my Tarot and astrology books I'll let you know. However, I think you probably know a hell of a lot more than me anyway :) Many blessings, Moongold Ps: I think HERMIT is kinda cool and really fits.......

firemaiden	03 May 2003
Ahh! That is indeed interesting Moongold! Thank you! ( I shall guard this secret knowledge, and avoid lit stakes like the plague) Now, Macavity, am I right in supposing Burger & Fieburg's assignations generally differ from those of Crowley???

Moongold	03 May 2003
Aaaah here I am again, speaking for Macavity but I'm very interested in this myself......Macavity where are you? Hmm .....still silence. Crowley doesn't have Kings in Thoth (a very interesting decision). In Golden Dawn derived decks we normally have Queen, King, Knight and Page. In Thoth Crowley has Queen, Prince, Knight and Princess. I think (Macavity, please correct me if I'm wrong) that Prince in Crowley replaces King. I am now a curious student of Thoth, at Grade 1 level, and it is easy to see how Crowley gave much significance to astrology. Every card has an astrological designation. The Crowley correspondences match those of the Tarot of the Sephiroth, of which I'm also fond. Sorry, Firemaiden. It's my Moon.....just can't stop from interrupting...... :)gold

Macavity	03 May 2003
Hang on a minute... I'll have to think weally weally hard on this one - Did I get those courts the wrong way round? Probably doesn't help when I defy convention by going King, Queen, Prince, Princess - Fire, Water, Air, Earth (As Clive Barrett does!) :D See: http://www.supertarot.co.uk/astro/attrib.htm I'm still pretty sure 18th May corresponds to "Fire of Air" - And with strict Thoth convention, that is KNIGHT of Swords... N'est-ce pas, mes braves? It could have been worse - ISTR that Crowley comes out as Queen of Swords - "Old Maid"? ;) Macavity

firemaiden	03 May 2003
Knight replaces King I believe. Wouln't my card for Sept 16 come out in Crowley as the Queen of Swords?

Macavity	03 May 2003
Looks like it doesn't it? With A.C. on 12 Oct, I suppose it depends if he just scraped in... It was interesting (amusing) that (imo) he gives a rather better characterisation of Q of S, than is perhaps sometimes seen? "The person symbolized by this card should be intensely perceptive, a keen observer, a subtle interpreter, an intense individualist, swift and accurate at recording ideas; in action confident, in spirit gracious and just. Her movements will be graceful, and her ability in dancing and balancing exceptional." :D Hey, who wouldn't mind being a Q of S on that basis ;) Macavity P.S. Better than the "propeller head" (sic)

Moongold	03 May 2003
Interrupting again. The only authority I'm using is Burger and Fiebig who have a section on astrological assignations in the back. I am a wee child at Thoth. Is your birthday 18 May, Macavity? Burger et al have you down as Taurus: Hierophant: King Pentacles in RWS tarots. In Crowley, according to them, you would be Prince Disks. Burger et al acknowledge that Crowley's position re the Court cards was not clearly stated. I guess everyone else has gone on to that for him. Moongold

firemaiden	03 May 2003
Yes, Macavité le chat, he does give a rather more positive interpretation: one detail, however, remains to suggest her famous talents as a dominitrix , the "freshly severed head of a bearded man" in her left hand. This is a card very, very, dear to my heart. Especially as I have it in mind to one day sing the role of Salome! I notice he gives negative portrayals to all of the male courts. That is rather a shame. I can't like any of them. Pity that. Perhaps this was some grand joke of his. Perhaps they were all portraits of real people he knew, and a kind of wicked vengeance to immortalize them in the Book of Thoth as cards.

firemaiden	03 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Moongold The only authority I'm using is Burger and Fiebig who have a section on astrological assignations in the back. I am a wee child at Thoth. Now it is becoming clear, Moongold, that Crowley's assignations differ significantly from Burger and Fiebig.

Macavity	03 May 2003
Interesting difference! If I have to take it to "arbitration", I always go by this article as definitive: http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/387 I think the suggestion is that Crowley was right... and I tend to agree. But then, I have to admit, I do indeed have my K of Pents "agricultural" side too... what with all that "Earth" around? ;) Macavity

Moongold	04 May 2003
....for the link by way of explanation, Macavity. Much appreciated. Dear Demonesse, Please regard this diversion from your theme as a discussion between King Pentacles, Knight Pentacles and Knight Wands in the RWS framework :) Blessings. Moongold

Major Tom	04 May 2003
Firemaiden - R.T. Kaser in his book Tarot in 10 Minutes gives associations with courts based on your soul card. For you he associates the Queen of Coins and the Page of Wands. He gives these associations in answer to the questions "How do others see me?" and "What kind of fool am I?" respectively. The point I'd like to make here is this: everyone at any given time, can be represented by a single card, but this single card changes from moment to moment. We all represent all the cards. I think I've said this before, but I believe that if you study any single card in depth you will find yourself in the card.

MeeWah	04 May 2003
This thread is most interesting & intriguing for its teaching qualities. That is, not only as a means of seeing oneself from the eyes of others & how one may appear to those eyes, but also as a means of providing insight regarding the qualities & aspects of specific cards. Whilst 'tis true that each one of us may express the traits of a particular card at any one time, given the diverse personalities represented here, 'tis evident that perceptions differ. In real life, one plays different roles, responds differently to different people & situations. Here in the cyber community there is a similar process. I have enjoyed this glimpse into the perceptions of others regarding various of the members, including myself. I have not found it offensive at all but to be provocatively thoughtful & to encourage thinking beyond "appearances". The interjection of related associations such as court card attributions according to Crowley enhances the insight, too.

Alex	04 May 2003
...Alex as the 2 of Wands Likes to view things from above... maintains a high profile

Demonesse	05 May 2003
Moongold: Never fear. Diversion adds spice to both life and threads. Me as Princess of Swords? That's new to me! ----------- I started up this thread because, like MeeWah, I thought it would be interesting to see how we perceive others in terms of the cards, instead of how we see ourselves (there have been a couple of other threads on that.) Hopefully we might gain a little insight into the quirky disrepancies between the two views. Aeclecticians (most, in any case! :) ) are very mature and considerate when responding to threads...thankfully, this thread has proven so far to be enlightening and enjoyable, rather than controversial! :D

firemaiden	05 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom Firemaiden - R.T. Kaser in his book Tarot in 10 Minutes gives associations with courts based on your soul card. For you he associates the Queen of Coins and the Page of Wands. He gives these associations in answer to the questions "How do others see me?" and "What kind of fool am I?" respectively. Now that is fantastic!

Alex	05 May 2003
stop walking on eggshells when dealing with each other, could we really benefit from this excercize in full. Seing how others see us can be a good self-exploration excercize. But only if we can be confident, others will say what they think, not necessarily, what we want to hear.... Alex (from above).

Alex	05 May 2003
Mee Wah, because of your avatar may be, I often associate you with the card "The Sun". And you often come up to bring some light into difficult interpretations_ usually a new light. Alex. Quote: Originally posted by MeeWah This thread is most interesting & intriguing for its teaching qualities. That is, not only as a means of seeing oneself from the eyes of others & how one may appear to those eyes, but also as a means of providing insight regarding the qualities & aspects of specific cards.

Moongold	05 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Alex stop walking on eggshells when dealing with each other, could we really benefit from this excercize in full. Can you hear up there Alex??? :D I'm delighted to be both Sun and Moon for a few short minutes. Both so different. Realistically I see myself more like the Queen Wands. The energy is Wands, and I quite like this Queen. My Soul/Personality card is Chariot. I don't whether it would ever be safe enough for people to stop being aware of the egg shells, Alex! But this is fun. Cheers, Moongold

Major Tom	05 May 2003
What I've done is shuffled my cards and then thought of a person and cut the cards. Sorta my subconcious take. ;) I've done this for every person who's contributed to the thread. Shall we see if we can scare anyone else out of the woodwork? Or should I say work anyone else up to the point of contributing their impressions? }) Demonesse - 9 of Pentacles CJTarot - 3 of Cups Meatbox666 - 5 of Wands Jema - King of Cups Diana - 2 of Wands Mimers - King of Swords Lunalafey - King of Wands Jlbvt - 3 of Wands Cricket - The Empress Azuremariposa - The Lovers Bec - 6 of Pentacles Kaz - The Heirophant Umbrae - Queen of Cups Amyel - 9 of Cups Mojo - 7 of Wands RedWood - The Emperor Celtic-Dragon - Princess of Pentacles Divinerguy - The Hermit Zorya - 10 of Cups Kiama - 8 of Pentacles Sir HOLMES - Princess of Wands Allibee - Princess of Swords Firemaiden - The Tower Katrumann - 10 of Pentacles Raeanne - 2 of Swords Violet Gargoyle - Judgement MeeWah - 3 of Swords Pollux - 7 of Swords Maan - Knight of Pentacles Ravenswing - Queen of Pentacles DarkElectric - Ace of Swords Jmd - 2 of Pentacles Istmus Nekoi - Knight of Swords Silverlotus - 9 of Wands Moongold - 10 of Wands Macavity - The World Alex - Strength You should know I used the Spiral Tarot to make the draw. You should also know I reshuffled when I got a repeated card. One way or the other, these all make sense to me. }) Does it make sense to anyone else? :laugh:

Khatruman	05 May 2003
What I am also finding interesting about this thread is the two ways people are taking it: either how the person thinks of him/herself and what others think of that person. I originally took it as a way of others pointing out what they see in each other. For those who were able to get more than one person to choose a card for them, it is interesting to see what it is you project to others. I have been associated with the Hanged Man, Empress, Knight of Cups, 9 of Cups, 2 of Wands, 10 of Pentacles, etc. etc. And I see how I may have projected those aspects to those various people. Perhaps the joy in this exercise is not pegging the type of people we are, but more the chemistry of our person that we project to others. I have been finding that I have become a person based on how I relate to a particular person. One of the problems in my marriage was that I became a certain person when I was with my wife which I saw reflected in how she treated me, and the person I saw myself become was not overly attractive to me. It wasn't her fault entirely, nor was it mine, but the mix did not go well, and now that we have changed our relationship to each other, both of us have improved and we are wonderful friends.

Diana	05 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom Diana - 2 of Wands Major Tom: Are you pulling my leg?

Major Tom	05 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Diana Major Tom: Are you pulling my leg? Would I do that? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

DarkElectric	05 May 2003
I can definitely see this. Especially the Spiral Ace of Swords. Can't speak for anybody else, but in this juncture of Time and Space, it's where my life happens to be at. Oddly enough, my new band has just decided to let me have free rein in the ol' creative process. I doubt they know what they're in for...

skytwig	05 May 2003
Speaking for us 'little guys/gals' here. Is it possible to avoid such posting in the future? I think Diana's concern is legit, feelings get hurt. There is much compassion and wonderful friendliness in this forum. I love coming here and seeing the latest conversations. Right now, I cannot afford to financially support the forum and am truly grateful for the 'free' posting I can participate in. However, as a newbie and a $$ 'locked out' member, I find this thread a bit bruising..... I think of the many other members who were not 'named' in the posts and, even though aplogizies were posted, I know they must have ached a bit too. I know no harm was intended by this topic. And, yes, there was much humor in the jesting. However is the pain, such jesting causes, worth the humor? I take the risk to say No. Maybe such a topic WOULD be better in the Chat area or in a PMing mode. Thoughts to consider. Many blessings, skytwig

Rhiannon	05 May 2003
Hi skytwig! I know what you mean, but it really wasn't intentional to exclude anyone, I'm sure. There are lots of people who have been here for a very long time, and we've had conversations with each other outside of Aeclectic as well, so we've had a chance to get to know each other on a more personal level. It has nothing to do with subscribing or not... just a longer amount of time together (I'm sure some of them think maybe too long with me ;) ). I realized that I didn't know you very well! So, I went back and read some of your posts! Very nice. I enjoyed reading what you had to say. I admit that most of the time I don't read all the threads anymore, so I miss alot, but having taken the time to "get to know you" a little bit... to me you are the Ace of Cups! When things like this pop up, just feel free to jump in. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms! As all members are! R :) P.S. I see RedWood as the Queen of Wands too, lol... too bad we don't have a Queen of Trades card in the deck.... :D

Umbrae	05 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by DarkElectric … Ace of Swords…but in this juncture of Time and Space, it's where my life happens to be at. Oddly enough, my new band has just decided to let me have free rein in the ol' creative process. I doubt they know what they're in for... Uh…should that not be the Ace of Scalpels? By the way…have you ever played the Bombar?

firemaiden	05 May 2003
Dear Tom, the Tower for me feels somehow appropriate but I think it is a good Tower. I also think that the Page of Wands is sort of the Tower upside down. In the Crowley card, the Princess of wands is falling UP. IN my new Wheel of Change deck, the Tower is a volcano!! It feels right, yes, but I can't really say why, perhaps because the sky is cracking open.

firemaiden	05 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom ;) I've done this for every person who's contributed to the thread. Shall we see if we can scare anyone else out of the woodwork? Or should I say work anyone else up to the point of contributing their impressions? }) No need to feel left out Skytwig, Tom did this for everyone who contributed to the thread. Now that you have joined in I am sure he will pull one for you as well. Just as in any community, it takes a while to get to know people.

Demonesse	06 May 2003
Major Tom, Demonesse - 9 of Pentacles You ARE pulling my leg!!! All 475 of them, I lost a couple in a tug-of-war with Diana. }) -------------- Dear skytwig, Don't feel so bad! I know not precisely why you were so upset by this thread, but am assuming here that you felt hurt because you were not named. Like firemaiden has said, it takes awhile to get to know people in any community, be it an online or real-life one; and I believe that one cannot sit and 'hope' to be noticed by others who you hope to interact with in a particular thread or threads (not that I'm saying you did that.) Also, allowances have to be made for the fact that you're still fairly new and some of us may not have gotten to know you as much as we'd like. If you would like to be involved in such a heavily community-oriented exercise such as this, it's often best to jump in - furthermore, if no one has listed their 'view' of you, you could always come up with your own views on other members or post the card you see yourself as and let others comment on it. Besides, if this thread was moved to Chat newer non-subscribing members would also miss out on getting to know older members better, as there is no 'mouldy oldies' board whereas there is a new members board. ;) I for one have not seen any untoward jesting or any 'pain' caused by such, just well-reasoned and well-founded depictions based on how we have projected ourselves to others in different ways, as our very personable Khatruman has noted! It is perhaps unfortunate that to some degree we do have to walk on eggshells but that is a price we have to pay when interacting with others in any form to keep the overall environment pleasant and conducive! :D --- A few more: Rhiannon as Queen of Wands RedWood as 3 of Pentacles (All that trading! Hehe) Violet Gargoyle as Death (Her interests in otherworldly matters) Joywalker as Princess of Pents (Warm and down to earth) Major Tom as King of Pents Alissa and Cricket as Empress Mari Hoshizaki and jmd as Hierophant Lee as Magician Alex and Astraea both as Queen of Swords (Judging purely from the very analytical and intelligent posts!) Athara as Page of Wands Khatruman as Two of Wands ...more will be added in other posts, I expect :)

Major Tom	06 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by firemaiden I am sure he will pull one for you as well. Skytwig - 2 of Cups. :)

allibee	06 May 2003
Hi Major Tom At first I thought .... Princess of Swords ..... ooeeeerrrrr, but then I had a long think and actually, it's quite spot on .... tumultuous energy. Yup, sounds like me, hehehe allison

Mimers	06 May 2003
I definitely agree with Khat, it is interesting to see how others see us. It is also interesting for someone who has not been here long to see how others are looked at here. I truely believe that no card is a bad card, so it would not be possible to insult me. As for feeling left out, being the youngest of 8 has taught me that sometimes you just have to nudge yourself right in there. As for myself, I only spoke of those I felt I have had enough interaction with. King of Sword for me? I can see that. I have a very analytical mind for sure. I have also been told I am very bossy (that is the nice word they used) by some. My Father affectionately calls me his little Alpha. On the good side is my ability to choose my battles and when I do have a cause, you can not hold me back. I will fight for what I believe in and what seems worthy of fighting for. Even under pressure, I tend to think things through. Major Tom, I didn't see that you pulled one for yourself! Who is Major Tom. You see now, I don't feel I know him well enough to take a stab. Major Tom, if you picked for yourself, who would it be? Mimers Mimers

Kiama	06 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom Kiama - 8 of Pentacles LOL: Very accurate for me right now! What with exams and revision... And at this moment in the process of creating Tarot cards myself and writing articles... Very apt indeed! :D Kiama

Violet Gargoyle	06 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Demonesse Major Tom, Demonesse - 9 of Pentacles You ARE pulling my leg!!! All 475 of them, I lost a couple in a tug-of-war with Diana. }) -------------- Violet Gargoyle as Death (Her interests in otherworldly matters) You got a point there. If nothing else I am Obsessed with Halloween and the Day of the Dead. I like hanging around the veils, I guess.

Mojo	06 May 2003
A few points: Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom Mojo - 7 of Wands. Very good. I feel like this much of the time, especially on Aeclectic - it's me against the world. Quote: Originally posted by skytwig However, as a newbie and a $$ 'locked out' member, I find this thread a bit bruising..... I think of the many other members who were not 'named' in the posts and, even though aplogizies were posted, I know they must have ached a bit too. No offense, skytwig, but this just reeks of political correctness. Anyone who takes offense to being included or excluded in an anonymous public forum needs to reconsider whether this is a proper medium for them. By internet standards, Aeclectic is a pretty tame place. I'd hate for us to have to consider a long list of whose sensibilities we might offend before we speak our piece. The very nature of having an opinion means you're going to offend somebody with it - that's why we all have them. Quote: Originally posted by jmd I can see that Mojo is seeing certain aspects of individuals, and from these determining a particular card which may somehow reflect this perception. jmd, that is precisely what the exercise was in this thread - who becomes which card. I agree with you, it's hard to narrow an entire person down to one single card, so I attempted to try to narrow down the "essence" of each person into the card that most defines them from my vantage point (keeping in mind that I've never met any of these people face to face, nor have I carried on intimate or detailed discussions with any of them with the exception of MeeWah). That anyone would be offended by my opinion is unfortunate and certainly unintentional. When choosing the cards, I did not look for negative traits. However, just like when I do a reading, when I see a challenge in a certain card, I express it as a "perhaps" or "maybe" type of question. It's simply my way of opening the door for self-reflection, which I think we all need to do. I wasn't going to explain my choices, but between the comments included in this thread and the number of PMs and e-mails I got, I went ahead and gave them. As a result, I got at least one scathing PM in return chastising me for being a bully. So much for giving the people what they want. Quote: Originally posted by Violet Gargoyle If nothing else I am Obsessed with Halloween and the Day of the Dead. Violet, I have a rather large collection of Day of the Dead artwork. I think it's fabulous stuff. My most recent addition is the DOTD version of Cruella Deville, complete with a skeletal dalmation puppy.

Khatruman	06 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Mojo ... that is precisely what the exercise was in this thread - who becomes which card. I agree with you, it's hard to narrow an entire person down to one single card, so I attempted to try to narrow down the "essence" of each person into the card that most defines them from my vantage point I think that this is a great point to make since many people do seem to forget that it is a matter of how another person sees you, and that any system that attempts to boil a person down to a single image, number, card, whatever, doesn't do justice to the various dimensions of that person. This is one of the problems I have with the use of astology.

lunalafey	06 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom What I've done is shuffled my cards ... Lunalafey - King of Wands would you pick him to manage a cat shelter? OH!...I'll take that!....but....hmm...I know Legends, He's the King that lives way out in a small populted area! He's generous & reliable (since 4/99, I have missed ONE day of work) He's also the King that was forever chasing the Questing Beast. If it's not one goal it's another. 4/99 I said to my self, I need 'my' truck-ya' got 1 year!....4/23/00 I drove it home. NOW, there are some differences with 78DW & TFY (newer tools for me)....I don't feel as fitting... I'm not flashy, well, I don't feel so. I know how to control a situation, but I'm not domineering, and not even hot tempered. BUT, I do live my life by my rules, #1 the children come first #2 have respect for all living things.... I would rather not have people following me, I just want them beside me. One sentence in TFY hit it right on the head, 'takes chances based on flashes of intuition'.....any little thought, any little sign.....there I go!

Demonesse	06 May 2003
Very thought-provoking and well-expressed thoughts from Mojo and Alex. I learnt much from them, whether or not I agreed with everything that was said. And it's true that Aeclectic is very tame compared to most Internet spots, although hiccups do occur now and then - for example, I sometimes view several other non-Tarot forums where it is considered acceptable to post, shall we say, very defamatory words about other members.

Alex	06 May 2003
but it is not very original. My Strength is about to reverse. Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom Alex - Strength I see myself as the "Page of Swords", if anyone is interested. Sometimes, the "Knight of Swords". Queen of Swords? I guess that's my "natural goal" in the suit. Alex. P.S. Today I downloaded my e-mail at work and then I saw that I had a PM from someone in this forum with whom I don't usually exchange PM's. I did not want to access the forum from work, but I was so curious that I pulled a card asking "what is this msg about?". The card: Page of Swords. Oh well, I'd gone over the top with a msg., the moderator wasnt' quite pleased...

Moongold	06 May 2003
Queen of Swords.......................but I suppose, like most of us, you move up and down a continuum. On somewhat rare occasions I feel like an infant again. As a Wands person, what would that be? Crown Princess Matchsticks? :joke: Moongold

Alex	06 May 2003
for you, Moongold. Queen of Wands but Knight of Pentacles. Justice for Diana The Emperor for Umbrae The Sun for Mee Wah 4 of cups for Mojo King of Wands for Major Tom 5 of Pentacles for Skytwig The Empress for Rhianon Princess of Swords for Tarotphelia King of Cups for HOLMES The Tower for Firemaden Two of Cups for Marion. Acutally most people would be best represented by more than one card Quote: Originally posted by Moongold Hard to believe, for socially I haven't been promoted beyond "page". Even work for two bosses "go tell like most of us, you move up and down a continuum. On somewhat rare occasions I feel like an infant again. As a Wands person, what would that be? Crown Princess Matchsticks? :joke: Moongold DISCLAIMER: The contents of this message are for amusement purposes only. They are NOT meant to cause harm or hurt. Any offense taken inspired by the content of this message is the reader's responsibility. Any offense taken based on what has been omited from this message is also the reader's responsibility. Alex.

firemaiden	07 May 2003
The Tower again? LOL Alex, Major Tom pulled this card for me too. Well, I definitely have been a catalyst of painful upheaval for some this year.

Demonesse	07 May 2003
Sorry, computer has been recalcitrant these past days - I accidentally posted twice, moderator please delete this!

Demonesse	07 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Alex Acutally most people would be best represented by more than one card Alex. What, no card for me Alex? *looks crestfallen* Just kidding! :) Actually, I've been thinking that for the purposes of this exercise we might classify most people into suit types (perhaps together with a major), to be represented by more than one card from a suit (as defining characteristics or facets of their personality, the ones that are expressed most clearly to others, perhaps) - in addition, I think the type of person you are also influences the situations you may experience at different points of life. In my own experience, I've found that I tend be either a Wands or Swords card, as well as frequently running into situations from Wands and Swords, for example. Again, it is interesting to note that how you see yourself may not be at all how the world sees you, whether that was deliberately/conciously executed or not - I believe that 'you' as a person is an amalgamation of both the inner you and the self you project to others. (like the Astrological concept of Rising Signs, I suppose).

Major Tom	07 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Mimers Major Tom, if you picked for yourself, who would it be? Pick a card, any card. :laugh: I have, at one point or other been aptly represented by every card. :laugh: Shuffling my deck and cutting I get: 7 of Pentacles, but wait, isn't that a repeat? Cutting again I get: the Heirophant. Both make sense. The 7 of Pentacles being more or less where I am at the moment and the Heirophant being my soul card. ;)

Kiama	07 May 2003
Actually, thinking about this exercise, I realise that I do it anyway! In my head I have a 'list' of what card each person I know represents to each of my other friends, including me. To me, my boyfriend is the King of Swords, but to our friend Dave, my boyfriend is the Knight of Wands. To me, my friend Paul is the Knight of Cups, whilst to his girlfriend he is the Page of Pentacles. To many people he is the 9 of Swords. So, this exercise for me serves to demonstrate how just having one significator for somebody can be a little limiting: We need a significator for everybody which represents what other people who might be in a reading think of that person. And of course, they are all gonna think different things of that person. To people on Aeclectic I have been the Page of Pentacles, 8 of Pentacles, 2 of Pentacles... (Lots of Pentacles here!) But to my boyfriend I am the Queen of Wands. It all depends on who the other person in question is, and I find this immensely helpeful to remember in a reading. Kiama

Alex	07 May 2003
I don't know. I couldn't come up with one for you. Is it a brown reclusa, in your avatar? Quote: Originally posted by Demonesse What, no card for me Alex? *looks crestfallen* Just kidding! :) firemaden I didn't "pull" them, I just came up with them. Quote: Originally posted by firemaden The Tower again? LOL Alex, Major Tom pulled this card for me too. Well, I definitely have been a catalyst of painful upheaval for some this year. [/b] Alex.

firemaiden	07 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Demonesse Actually, I've been thinking that for the purposes of this exercise we might classify most people into suit types It is fun to think of suits or cards for people, but we will defy classification. I think our "suit" or our card changes constantly. A person who had been consistantly coming up as the either the King of Swords or the King of Wands in my readings, is now showing up often as the Prince of Pentacles. Must be the season?

allibee	07 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Kiama To people on Aeclectic I have been the Page of Pentacles, 8 of Pentacles, 2 of Pentacles... (Lots of Pentacles here!) But to my boyfriend I am the Queen of Wands. It all depends on who the other person in question is, and I find this immensely helpeful to remember in a reading. Kiama ....which goes to prove the old adage of being 'all things to all people' :O)

Rhiannon	07 May 2003
What? I'm the Queen of Wands and the Empress? I must be being too nice to you people, LOL. Thanks those are really nice... I haven't really thought about what all of you would be, so I'm sorry if I'm not playing along properly! :D I'll try harder and get back to you all. R :)

DarkElectric	07 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Umbrae Uh…should that not be the Ace of Scalpels? More like the "Ace of Occam's Razor...."

MeeWah	07 May 2003
Major Tom: Your card associations are intriguing, as are the others. Speaking for myself, 3-Swords is a card I know well. Alex: Thanks for the observation. The avatar is Kayne's masterful colour rendition of a logo I designed for my business card. It incorporates the Sun, Moon & Stars. Dark: O my, ye are sharp--as in keen & quick witted :)

isthmus nekoi	08 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom Istmus Nekoi - Knight of Swords Ho ho, I guessed right! maybe this is a msg for me to think twice before posting my 2 cents ^_~ Moongold, I'm surprized you picked a cups card for a water singleton like myself. And *scorp!* I thought I came off as way more superficial :P I think I tend to see a lot of Hierophant energy on this board b/c I think of ppl here as spiritual teachers. Hierophant can be a stodgy card, but I think we have a good example of order and learning here: *great* mods, helpful participants, knowledge being shared, rounds of courtesy and kindness, and a very healthy allowance for curiousity and openmindedness.

firemaiden	08 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Alex firemaiden, I didn't "pull" them, I just came up with them. Lol, Alex, I knew that you just came up with them. I expressed myself badly, I meant to say, that it was amazing that you came up with the same card that Tom pulled. (I dare not ask why you came up with it!)

Alex	08 May 2003
if you asked. Alex. (from above) Quote: Originally posted by firemaiden Lol, Alex, I knew that you just came up with them. I expressed myself badly, I meant to say, that it was amazing that you came up with the same card that Tom pulled. (I dare not ask why you came up with it!)

cricket	08 May 2003
*peeks in... wondering just what I would be now that the Empress days are over*

Moongold	08 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by isthmus nekoi Moongold, I'm surprized you picked a cups card for a water singleton like myself. And *scorp!* I thought I came off as way more superficial :P Greetings Isthmus, I've never seen your chart. Is it on the ASTRO site? In my mind, you're definitely Scorpio. which is water. Was it Knight of Cups, because that seems more proactive than Princess, and I think you're relatively young. I know that you're not really Scorpio astrologically are you? However, Isthmus, I found it difficult to allocate just one card to you as well as others. Isn't Isthnus a fish by the way? Moongold

firemaiden	09 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Alex if you asked. Okay, Alex, from above. I am taking a deep breath. Okay, please tell me.

Mimers	09 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by cricket *peeks in... wondering just what I would be now that the Empress days are over* Cricket, your Empress days have just begun! :) :)

isthmus nekoi	09 May 2003
Hi Moongold! No, my chart isn't on the group account, but you're right, I'm not a Scorp Sun/Moon/ASC. However, my Uran water singleton's a Scorp, where it's conj my MC (reputation). You said Princess/Prince of Cups, perhaps b/c of my age? I find it really interesting online, most ppl tend to assume that I'm older/male, and when they learn my real age/gender, I find I'm treated quite differently. Not in a negative sense, but in a noticable sense. Also, usually once the cat is out of the bag so to speak, I feel much more comfortable using a lower level of diction for some reason, as if disclosure of my age excuses me from using "standard" language :P Isthmus is a geological term, perhaps you are thinking of icthy (or however that word is spelt....)?

Moongold	09 May 2003
Hi Isthmus, You've already corrected my assumptions about you (do you remember?) but I always thought you were young. And I hope I haven't treated you differently :) You, more than anyone else, I thought about - found a little harder to categorize. Moongold

isthmus nekoi	12 May 2003
:D Yes, I remember! But no, I don't feel you've treated me any differently, although I don't mind when it happens. Actually, I think I can pin the misunderstandings to 2 things: age - I tend to sounding formal, serious and academic online. But the longer I'm around, the more non-standard the language gets, it gets much more colloquial... more my age :P gender - the 'mus'. I'm sure if my name was Isthma, the impression given would be very different!

Alex	12 May 2003
because you know how to blow walls of bulls@it. I mean, right to the point, whatever the bulls@it of the moment is, you can pin it down, blow it up. Just an impression though. Can you hear me? I'm so high up that sometimes I have to yell. Alex. Quote: Originally posted by firemaiden Okay, Alex, from above. I am taking a deep breath. Okay, please tell me.

MystiqueMoonlight	13 May 2003
Er my Soul card is the High Priestess. I think it is pretty much me.... Thought you forgot me guys :)

firemaiden	13 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Alex because you know how to blow walls of bulls@it. I mean, right to the point, whatever the bulls@it of the moment is, you can pin it down, blow it up. ((((((Alex)))))) Thank you. :-) I can hear you! Why are you so high up now? Do you want us to send a balloon up there for you?

Major Tom	13 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by MystiqueMoonlight Thought you forgot me guys :) Nope - not forgotten, just waiting to hear from you. ;) I've shuffled my Spiral and thought of you, then cut the cards. I got Temperance. :) Why don't you give us some of your impressions?

MystiqueMoonlight	13 May 2003
Temperance...hhhmmm.... that's interesting. I took a look at my other favourite deck (Robin Wood) for this one. A male angel juggling spheres with one foot in water and the other on land, the glyph of air on his robe. An indication on remaining humble yet analytical through emotional/spiritual changes. The ability to seek inner strength through self actualisation. How do you come up with this one Major Tom?

firemaiden	16 May 2003
Quote: Originally posted by MystiqueMoonlight How do you come up with this one Major Tom? Hi Mystique Moonlight: Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom I've shuffled my Spiral and thought of you, then cut the cards. I got Temperance. I think what happened is, Major Tom shuffled his Spiral deck, thought of you, cut the cards, then picked one :laugh: I didn't think of a card for you myself, because I don't know you. Perhaps in this process I will get to know you better. I am going to pull a card for you from my Margarete Petersen deck, if you don't mind: shuffling.... still shuffling.... (these cards are big) still shuffling (gotta have big hands)... okay... cutting the deck: now... fanning it out. (this is hard with such big cards too) okay, now I am trying to choose one. I am thinking of you, but just about all I have to go on is your avatar: waiting for the energy of the card that "feels right" under my hand.... and IT'S..... DRUM ROLL!......... IV-THE LOVERS! Margarete Petersen's text on the lovers (my halting translation): Two bared souls looking at eachother as mirrors Twilight, Doubts, Two-ness Seing, thinking, hearing double Confusion Discarding Identities, peeling off an old skin An encounter with the "not-me" A blossom offers itself The inner powers become flowing, soft, flexible Fresh vibrating Energy rises up the spine Cautious encounter of opposites I and You become one

MystiqueMoonlight	17 May 2003
Bless your cotton socks Firemaiden

firemaiden	17 May 2003
Thanks Mystique Moonlight: (I'm not wearing any socks today, usually wear thigh-highs, I'll bless those instead, if you don't mind :D)

Adjustment	13 Jan 2005
I think that i become the Justice card.

firemaiden	13 Jan 2005
Interesting, why's that, Tara?

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