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shuffle and storage question

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 01 Jun 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.



Brooding  01 Jun 2003 
How do you shuffle and store your cards? when I shuffle (ive only done it about 4 times now) i just spread the cards out on the table and mess em up, since im a big MTG player i find it the fastest and quickest method of shuffling large unweildy decks. for storage I store them in a plastic card storage box (same type of box i store my MTG cards in lol) since my MTG cards never warped i think its a good method of storage so how do YOU store and shuffle your cards????

P.S.
MTG: Magic The Gathering, a popular card game created by wizards of the coast 


Sobeknofret  01 Jun 2003 
As the granddaughter and niece of blackjack and poker dealers, I do a bridge shuffle most of the time. Early training in that art helps :D. But do whatever works for you. I know lots of readers who simply plunk the deck on the table and mess them around until they're satisfied. It's what I had to do to my large Thoth deck becauuse my little hands were too small to shuffle them bridge style. Then I got the small Thoth and everything got better... :P

As for storage of my cards, it depends on what I'm doing with them. The decks that I read with are either wrapped in a silk scarf or in a velvet or silk bag, or stored in a wooden box. The box thing was just pure dumb luck; my husband passed along to me two really nicely carved wooden boxes his grandparents picked up in Sweden one time, and lo and behold, the boxes are just the right size for tarot cards :) The decks that are just for my collection are stored in their original boxes. Oh, and I do save the original cardboard boxes even for the decks that I use just in case I want to trade them or sell them. I keep the entire collection of decks in two wicker baskets in my office, and toss some dried lavender in with them to keep the bugs out.

--Sobe 


jog1118  01 Jun 2003 
hey there brooding!! nice to catch a fellow mtg player here.
shuffling - do whatever is most comfortable to you
storage - i've done a little research and its best to store your cards in something natural. i store my cards in a snakeskin pouch 


Melissa`  02 Jun 2003 
Well... as for shuffling, I do a hand over hand shuffle. I tried the bridge, they just flew everywhere. Whhhee... heh :D

Storing them.. the ones I used most often are in cloth totes and also kept in a basket on my desks. All the others that I claim as my 'collection' are in their original boxes and stored in a rubbermaid under the bed box. I'm really not keen on just tossing them up on a shelf.

I like the idea of putting them in the MTG plastic boxes. I also play once in a while and have a ton of those empty sleeve boxes. Too bad most of my decks wouldn't fit them :(


Amaya :) 


Trogon  02 Jun 2003 
Well... as for shuffling... others have said it, and I guess I'll repeat it (love to hear myself talk, I guess ;) )... whatever works for you.

As for storage... I've heard a lot of ideas about how you must keep them in silk, or only in wooden boxes (hadn't heard about snakeskin before...). Personally... it doesn't seem to matter to me or to my cards. All of my decks, that I am currently using, are in their original boxes which I have reinforced with clear packing tape. It ain't real pretty, but it works good for me. I've got a tote bag that I carry around with me which has a couple of Tarot books, my Tarot notebook/journal (where I write down meanings, studies, etc of cards & layouts), the steno pad where I record my readings, and the 7 Tarot decks I use on a regular basis. I have found that, for me, too much ritual just gets in the way of my learning and reading. 


sagitarian  02 Jun 2003 
I do a bridge shuffle.

As for my storing, my faeries are in a green velvet (dice) bag with lil jewels (made for belly button rings) hanging off the sides of the draw strings.

My universal waite deck is in it's original box and that's how I take it from place to place.

My celtic dragon tarot have already made it clear that they want a nicely decorated cedar box with a special place to put it on a book shelf (so the dragons can continue to study). I have yet to get this for them, so for now they are sitting on my computer desk freed.

My angel tarot (A marsilles deck sorry for the wrong spelling) is just sitting on top of my entertainment center. I know this deck will be moving on eventually, I'm not meant to keep it. But I don't know who it's suppose to go to yet.

My LOTR deck is still in their original box, but I hardly read with them, so their just shelf worn. 


rota  02 Jun 2003 
here's a shuffle-and-storage point that I haven't heard addressed here before, and this might be a good chance to say it -- say you're at the point of completion for a reading, the client is gone and all the cards are lying there on the table -- how do you personally make sure that the order the cards are now in don't affect or 'contaminate' another reading?

I'm sure all of us try to add the cards in the reading randomly back into the deck, and then to shuffle once or twice more to distribute them well.

Anybody else do anything in particular to 're-set' the cards for the next reading? 


Trogon  03 Jun 2003 
Quote:
Originally posted by rota
I'm sure all of us try to add the cards in the reading randomly back into the deck, and then to shuffle once or twice more to distribute them well.

Anybody else do anything in particular to 're-set' the cards for the next reading?
Nope... that's about it. As I mentioned before, I find that trying to put too much emphasis on complicated rituals regarding my use of the Tarot just seems to get in the way. When I first started with the Tarot, I was heavily into following rituals as suggested in my book. It never seemed to help. I'm familiar with most of these, and find that some are helpful on a personal level... but if I try to inject to much ritual into my readings, I end up concentrating so much energy on that, that I have trouble with the reading.

Ah... but I digress... and I seem to be drifting from the main issue. How odd... that almost never happens with me... :D

After a reading; I take the deck in my left hand and the cards from the reading in my right hand. This is because - well... because I'm right-handed. I more or less randomly slide the cards back into the deck. Shuffle once or twice and put them back into the box. That's it.

However, thinking back to shuffling before the reading. There is one thing that I didn't mention, and I don't think anyone else has. Since I use "reversals", before I do a shuffle, I rotate part of the deck - usually 1/2 or less... sometimes only a few cards. I determine this simply by what "feels right" at the time. Sometimes I'll rotate part of the deck with only the first shuffle, sometimes with every shuffle... just depends on how I feel about it at that time. Heck... come to think of it... sometimes I don't do this at all... I forget... getting old you know.

They say that the memory is the second thing to go... Hmmm.... I can't seem to recall what the first is...... 


azuremariposa  03 Jun 2003 
Quote:
Originally posted by rota
here's a shuffle-and-storage point that I haven't heard addressed here before, and this might be a good chance to say it -- say you're at the point of completion for a reading, the client is gone and all the cards are lying there on the table -- how do you personally make sure that the order the cards are now in don't affect or 'contaminate' another reading?

I'm sure all of us try to add the cards in the reading randomly back into the deck, and then to shuffle once or twice more to distribute them well.

Anybody else do anything in particular to 're-set' the cards for the next reading?

actually, i pick them up in the exact same order i placed them down in, but then put them on the bottom of the deck rather than the top from whence they came...if i feel the deck is "off" at any point, i'll return them to "order" and reshuffle from there (w/7 shuffles prior to shuffling for the reading)...but that's just me and how i do it...

to address the original question, i shuffle "bridge style" as well, though my VRT (victoria regina) stretches the limit of my fingers & shuffling ability...i don't know if the thoth is bigger, but if it is, i will have to find another way to shuffle...thank goodness i have long fingers!! ;) (they are long enough to overlap thumb and pinkie when wrapped around my wrist...most people can just barely touch thumb to pinkie...and my wrists aren't "small" either)

if i don't want reversals to show up i shuffle traditional bridge style, cutting the deck in my hands and going from there...

if i want reversals to show up, i lay the deck down, cut and then pick up each pack separately & do the bridge shuffle (which seems to give a nice proportion of reversed cards)...

as for storage, i've kept my main deck in a wooden box for ages...i keep it w/a "purple energy plate" to keep it's vibrations on the high end of the spectrum...other decks i have are either stored in cloth bags or their original boxes depending on how often i use them...(i recently got a really nice organza bag for my fey! :D)

but again, that's just what i do...

many blessings...

~azure 


LadyMedusa  03 Jun 2003 
Mostly I bridge shuffle but I sometimes hand to hand shuffle. It depends on the deck and the mood.

For storage almost each deck has its own cloth bag. Some cotton, some silk, some I haven't found the right material for yet. Every deck has it's own box. Most are wood, a few are wood lined marble. The LWB's each live in the bottom that deck's box. I keep the original boxes in a plastic tote in the closet.

LadyMedusa 


G.I.R.  05 Jun 2003 
Yay! fellow mtg players!
I don't really know what kind of shuffle I do. I just do whatever I feel like doing at the time. as for storage, I have my cards in the original box and have a plastic box but it's too big to carry around. I guess I'm still looking for something. 


sagitarian  05 Jun 2003 
Quote:
Originally posted by rota

Anybody else do anything in particular to 're-set' the cards for the next reading?


I shuffle my deck after the reading, and then before I do another reading I shuffle them again. For instance, I'll go out for coffee on Saturday night, I'll do a reading (for simplicity sake, let's say for one person) after I'm done reading for the one person, I shuffle my deck, put them back in their bag, put that back in my purse and away to home I go. Two night later, I'll go out again, someone else wants a reading. I take out my cards, I shuffle them all up, then hand them to the querent to shuffle the deck while asking their question.

*If I have two readings back to back, I just shuffle them once in between the readings. 


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