Daily cards predicting events???
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 04 Feb 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| gloria |
04 Feb 2004 |
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When I want to ‘pull’ a daily card, I shuffle the deck. If one ‘riffles’ up, falls out, or shows it’s ‘face’ in any way I use that as my daily card. Using this method I am practising my shuffling as well. If one doesn’t show then I try again next day.
On the morning of 28th January I was going through this ‘procedure’ when a number of cards fell like in a ‘clump’. What I mean is they didn’t splay themselves out.
When I saw that 2-3 of them were pretty grim, I put them back in the deck, but I made a note of them.
This is the order they were in: The Hierophant, 5/Pents, Knight/Wands, Tower reversed, and finally 10/Swords reversed. (Rider Waite)
I reshuffled thinking that these particular cards wouldn’t mean anything,(well hoping not) but two cards together flipped over….The Tower reversed again and 3/Swords.
I tried to put it to the back of my mind, but couldn’t help worrying that something pretty bad might happen. My sons were foremost in my mind.
Two or three days went by, everything being okay, so the worry I’d felt disappeared.
But yesterday morning my son told me that his friend (who is Iranian) and his father were both killed in the suicide bombing in Kurdistan on Sunday 1st Feb.They’d gone over to celebrate the beginning of the Muslim holiday.
Apparently two officials were greeting people when one of the ‘suicide bombers’ approached and detonated the explosives strapped around his body.
As well as deaths, many were injured. (5Pents?)
The Tower reversed also shows a clearer picture of events rather than if it were in upright position.
The 10/Swords reversed?
Well a state of emergency was declared in the area, an urgent appeal had been issued to residents to donate blood!
Discussing this card recently, attention had been drawn to the fact there was no blood, even though 10 swords pierced the body. Also in a reversed position, there is no sign of the rising sun, no ‘new day’ dawning here.
The Knight/Wands puzzled me. What was he doing here, what part did he have to play in this?
This is Emily Peach’s ideas about this particular Knight when it describes ‘events.’
Militant religious factions or groups, Militant political factions, organisations and publications, Terrorists and terrorism, Paramilitary groups and organisations, Anarchy, anarchists and anarchical groups.
I have two thoughts about the Hierophant card. Does the image here show or symbolise friend and father celebrating religious festival? Or on a more sinister level, does it represent the suicide bomber being greeted by the two officials?
Finally, the 3/Swords. The loss and grief of the mother and wife.
Sorry to unburden this onto you, but if you have any thoughts at all, I’d like to hear them.
Gloria.
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| Star Spirit |
04 Feb 2004 |
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How terrible Gloria, I'm sorry your son had to go through that. I think tarot has a way of letting us know when something like that is about to happen, even if we didn't intend to read anything more than a daily card. I think your interpretations of most of the cards sound quite right. The Hierophant is a tricky one, I usually think of the one in my Hudes, he looks so solemn with his eyes closed and his hand and finger raised, almost as a warning...which could have been true since it was the first card that came out. But I usually see him as saying there is something you can learn from a situation, and that there is a way to overcome, to make things better.
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| ros |
04 Feb 2004 |
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Sorry to hear of this.
The Hierophant takes things to a higher level. The ones that are left behind learns the lessons.
I don't know if I found this here or not
"Open doors between all spiritual lessons, reveals how the laws of spiritual justice are at play within our life"
Also I have The Hierophant as a Sunday card.
Just some more ideas.
Take Care.
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| Diana |
04 Feb 2004 |
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Originally posted by gloria
I have two thoughts about the Hierophant card. Does the image here show or symbolise friend and father celebrating religious festival? Or on a more sinister level, does it represent the suicide bomber being greeted by the two officials?
Fascinating and very very sad reading, gloria.
I believe the Hierophant represents the ideas of the suicide bomber. Most suicide bombers today do their tragic acts believing they are being blessed by their God to do them. In fact, most of them do their acts in the name of their God.
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| allibee |
04 Feb 2004 |
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Hi Gloria
These things are sent to try us, sadly.
My immediate view of the Hierophant is simply the religious festival itself.
A.
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| MeeWah |
04 Feb 2004 |
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Gloria: So sorry for the loss of your son's friends.
Your throw seems to refer to not only the event, but what led to it.
The Hierophant: Pertains to the religious/spiritual dogma; the impetus that set a chain of events in motion & led to the act of destruction.
5-Pentacles: Relates to The Hierophant &/or those teachings. The imperfect understanding or the lack of understanding which formed the basis for what ensued. Literally a poverty-stricken consciousness.
Knight-Wands: The bomber. The distorted energy that impels an individual to act destructively, with wanton disregard for life.
The Tower, R: Rather than as a cleansing force that ultimately promotes a change for the better or a more enlightened status, this is of an opposite influence. Represents a shocking, destructive force that sets progress back to a dark age. Fear, oppression, tyranny, injustice.
10-Swords, R: As a chronic malady oft knows no surcease, the worst may yet come. The lack of means to put an end to unrest & conflict. The survivors face an uncertain future. Living with the threat of more of the same.
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| Nevada |
04 Feb 2004 |
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Gloria,
Very sorry to hear this sad story.
Originally posted by Diana
I believe the Hierophant represents the ideas of the suicide bomber. Most suicide bombers today do their tragic acts believing they are being blessed by their God to do them. In fact, most of them do their acts in the name of their God. This is what also crossed my mind when I read your question about the Hierophant--fundamentalist beliefs, or rigidity, whether religious, political, or other. Obviously someone who will kill themselves to bomb others, for whatever reason, isn't at all flexible in their beliefs. Or they're being forced to do it, with threats against their family by someone in a position of power over them who is inflexible in their beliefs. That was the root, or initiating, cause of this tragic event.
Nevada
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| ol_crazy_Legs |
05 Feb 2004 |
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I am also sorry, I wish you and your son the best of luck. This reminds me when i was little My mother used to do tarot. And every time she did a shuffle the Devil Card would fly out. It actually scared her away form the tarot and sadly she never did tarot again after that. Now that I know more about it. I try telling her that I think the cards where trying to warn her. She says she misses it, and she warming up to the ideah again. But she also says she wants to keep close to god and that she felt tarot was pulling her away from that. I can respect her desicsion. But she was becoming so powerful at it.
Recently I actually say here practicing tarot through a regular playing deck. But she Gave it up because her husband wanted an Ouji board. The deal was if she gave up the cards... then he couldnt get an Ouji board. I was so upset when i heard this. But i think its all heresay for the moment. I hope she gets back into tarot. And besides... It'd be nice to call up my mother everyonce in a while to talk about spread and such.
Just hang in there Gloria. I wish you the best of luck.
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| gloria |
05 Feb 2004 |
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Thank you all very much for your views and thoughts here.
I have since learned that Sullah’s father was Deputy Prime Minister of the Kurdish Democratic Party who was among those greeting guests to the celebrations.
The very same thing happened eight miles away at the offices of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, almost simultaneously.
Twin suicide bombers.
The Rider Waite Hierophant card shows two identical people standing in front of the ‘leader’…just thoughts....I can still relate to the views you have all given on this card in this particular circumstance.
Would you believe this holiday celebration is known as “The Feast of Sacrifice?”
Once again thanks to you all….Gloria.
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