When they jump, do you listen?
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 13 Mar 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| le pendu |
13 Mar 2004 |
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I'm curious to know if others pay any special attention to cards that "jump" from the pack when shuffling? What do you consider the meaning, if any?
Robert
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| Imagemaker |
13 Mar 2004 |
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Yes, I consider those that truly leap out, as opposed when I notice I'm just shuffling really lazily and the cards get tangled and bumped out.
If I'm asking a specific question, sometimes I consider the jumper as the answer. If I was planning a more general, larger spread, I notice what meaning it gives me in the context of the spread and decide whether to keep it out as "card 1" or decide to put it back in the deck.
No rules--all intuitive, in-the-moment choices.
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| le pendu |
13 Mar 2004 |
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Hi Allisa,
Thanks for the links. I did a search on "jump", didn't notice anything that looked right, and thought I'd post as I had three jumpers today: Moon, 5 wands, Hanged man.
I'm reading through the other threads, and can see this is a very old topic. Sorry to start it up again. I was over-anxious.
best,
robert
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| Alissa |
13 Mar 2004 |
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Oh please! no apologies necessary, robert! These questions appear again and again for a reason... they're a universal phenomenon that gets discussed regularly :D
Myself, I am almost disappointed the times I don't get jumpers. I rather prefer them. Takes the guess work out, in a way ;)
Best wishes....
(Curiousity is a good thing, cat be damned ;))
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| Majecot |
13 Mar 2004 |
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Robert
Absolutely I pay attention to the leapers. I did not used to but I was advised otherwise by my cards. ;)
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| Red Emma |
13 Mar 2004 |
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I hadn't been at tarot very long when the first jumper accosted me. I was advised to pay special attention, as they were very important.
Through the years I've discovered that a jumper usually has the answer I'm seeking. If I continue with the spread I had intended, the meaning of it is usually zilch. Or very close to zilch.
Best wishes.
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| Nevada |
13 Mar 2004 |
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Yes, I tend to, unless I know I was just being clumsy and fumbling.
I'm really amazed when the following happens: I'm reading for myself and a card jumps out. I look at it and react with such resistance that I can't even begin to interpret it. In desperation I pick up a book, and the book falls open to the page for that card! Now I've been told twice. I'd better pay attention. :P
Nevada
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| contrascarpe |
13 Mar 2004 |
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My "jumpers" usually happen only with certain decks. If one is harder to "riffle" then others (heavier card stock), I will usually have a jumper. I use these as extra advice or deeper meaning cards. If a card took the time to throw itself at me, the least I can do is listen ;)
Dan
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| le pendu |
13 Mar 2004 |
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I'm glad to see that there is still some interest in the "jumping" cards, and appreciate everyone's perceptions on what they mean and how they use them.
In case the concept is tired for some of you, might I asked a related but off topic question?
How about the card on the bottom of the deck? Do you peak? I almost always do after a reading, but give it no specific meaning.. but why do I look??
robert
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| contrascarpe |
13 Mar 2004 |
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Hmm, remind me never to play poker with you, hehe.
Personally, I have never been drawn to peek. I usually like to clear my head as I begin a reading, so the extra stimuli would not be welcome for me. Hard enough to concentrate sometimes on the cards that matter without the extra clutter of those which don't fit with the reading at hand.
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| Nevada |
13 Mar 2004 |
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Originally posted by robertmealing
How about the card on the bottom of the deck? Do you peak? I almost always do after a reading, but give it no specific meaning.. but why do I look??
I often look at the bottom card, if I feel a need to look for hidden influences. Sometimes I make this a part of the spread's structure, in other words there is a position called "bottom of deck - hidden influences." Other times I look at it for clarification.
But no, I don't worry about that while shuffling.
Nevada
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| Simone |
14 Mar 2004 |
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For me, "jumping" cards are important: they often indicate to me what the reading will be all about. If I have during a shuffling more than one card jumping, I'll use them for the reading. Interestingly, if it's more than one, often it's three and I do a three cards spread...
But I never look at the bottom card. Couldn't tell why, though...
Love
Simone
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| Phoenix Rising |
14 Mar 2004 |
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i certainly take note of those jumpers, if it happens again then it will definitely be noted. I've found that sometimes it represents the question.
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| Alissa |
14 Mar 2004 |
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robert, you're a confessed bottom-peeker ;)
I'm one too.....
Every now and then, the bottom card will pull my attention. If it does, and feel relevant to the reading, I will consider it a "Shadow" card. The hidden aspect, as Nevada puts it.
When I use them for reading, it may indicate the issue "most likely to be ignored," the unseen influence, a hidden factor, or the dark side to the equation. Kind of a "dont forget about X" reminder from the cards.
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| MeeWah |
14 Mar 2004 |
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Robert: A belated welcome to the Aeclectic Tarot Forums!
I always pay attention to jumper cards; use the card(s) as the "answer" & look no further.
The most unusual occasion was whence I did my usual daily draw using a deck I found in my bedroom. I watched in a state of suspension as a line of cards flew in slow motion out of the deck & over my shoulder, landing face-down on the floor. There were 9 cards total. Whence I looked them over, I realized the first card represented a relative; the rest information about his situation & included a warning. Based on what I saw, I wrote to him immediately. Subsequently, a phone call from him confirmed the particular concern & why the appearance of a warning.
On the occasions I am prompted to refer to the bottom card of the deck, it always offers additional insight, by either mirroring an aspect in a reading or reflects one of the querent's personal cards. I call it the "Bottom Line" & include it at the end of a reading.
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| lunakasha |
14 Mar 2004 |
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Originally posted by robertmealing
How about the card on the bottom of the deck? Do you peak? I almost always do after a reading, but give it no specific meaning.. but why do I look??
robert
Hmmmm....I never really considered it before, Robert. Maybe I should though, just out of curiosity! :P
Have you noticed any significant "message" from those bottom cards?
:) Luna
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| ScarabFlight |
15 Mar 2004 |
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Sometimes when I don't have a particular question I just shuffle and usually a card pops out and has something of interest that I need to know.
I don't know if this counts as peeking but sometimes when I cut the deck I look at the card at the bottom of the top half instead of the top of the bottom half. It's kinda wierd, when it does happen I don't think about it I just do it. It is usually the card I need. (I've peeked at the one I was "supposed" to pick and it's never as good as the one I really picked) I hope this makes sense!
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| Ilithiya |
15 Mar 2004 |
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Originally posted by ScarabFlight
I don't know if this counts as peeking but sometimes when I cut the deck I look at the card at the bottom of the top half instead of the top of the bottom half. It's kinda wierd, when it does happen I don't think about it I just do it. It is usually the card I need. (I've peeked at the one I was "supposed" to pick and it's never as good as the one I really picked) I hope this makes sense!
I do the same thing, too... and what's funny is that with most of my decks, it's a Major 9 out of 10 times.
Illy
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| Kath |
15 Mar 2004 |
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I take note of jumpers if they jump out, land face up, and if it’s only one or two cards. If they land face down, or if there’s a heap of cards that fall out, I take it as a sign that my shuffling is sloppy. Having said that, if a card jumps out and lands face down, I will look at it, but have noticed that it doesn’t normally have much to do with the reading at hand.
Regarding bottom peekers.... nothing wrong with peeking at a nice bottom ;)
But seriously, I’ve read that sometimes bottom cards can indicate an unknown influence, or a deeper root of the problem.
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