The agony of being "The Lovers"

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 11 Jun 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Kittaine	11 Jun 2004
I found out, thanks to Lswern (who is now Suriel, I believe?), that my soul and personality numbers are both 6. 6 is equal to The Lovers. Now I know it means sexuality and attraction; and this wonderful book by Joan Bunning called "Learning the Tarot" also says that it means "establishing personal values" and "relating to others". But what else does being "The Lovers" mean aside from that? Well...personally, it says something about my desperate need to commit to some guy that meets my standards. It's like I NEED a partner to give my life meaning because I CANNOT, for the life of me, do it on my own! Believe me I've tried. The Lovers: forever two people in union. It's universal. ...I feel like a love bird; I'm crap without my mate.

Rhiannon	11 Jun 2004
I'm a 6 too, and 6 is about family. Not just "lovers". We feel a strong need to support others and help out. Our family (and that could mean close friends, etc.) is usually the most important thing to us. It's hard for us to take time out for ourselves and really learn who we are as separate people. I understand what you mean when you say you are "crap without your mate". I think that's a bit drastic though! :D You are your own person. Focus on you and the rest will eventually fall into place. No one wants to be with someone who is desperate and can't function alone. You're supposed to be the supportive one, not the needy one. :) The other thing about the Lovers is choices. You will constantly be making choices in your life. I know that's true for everyone, but it seems especially true for those of us with the 6 as our number and the Lover's as our card. You may also want to be aware that the Devil is probably your Shadow card, so watch yourself and make sure you are not tying yourself to things you don't want to be associated with. Cheer up! It's a good thing! R :)

Kiama	11 Jun 2004
As well as what has already been said, I see the Lovers card as about trying to unite different aspects of your self, usually opposing forces. Yin and Yang, masculine and feminine, active and passive, dark and light- uniting opposites within one's self to become a more balance individual. Also, I apply the zodiac sign of Gemini, the Twins to this card, so those who's Year Card/Soul card etc it is, may often find themselves in two minds all the time, always being pulled between two opposing options. Blessings, Kiama

jmd	11 Jun 2004
This card is often represented by a youngish man between two women, one of which tends to be older, and the other younger. Above is an angelic archer drawing its bow towards the union of the young man and his 'bride'. In the Wirth deck (which I have attached), the arrow points above him, perhaps in a more 'threatening' manner as to which choice will be made between depictions of the looseness of vice and crowned virtue. In front of him are the two possible consequential paths: upon which will he step? Differing views are also mentioned in another thread which discusses this card in the Marseille section of the Forums: VI 'Lamoureux. For myself, I often see this card as indicating important decisions and choices which need to be made. This is clearly depicted in one way in the more traditional Marseille image, where, by leaving the hand (home) of his mother, and setting out upon his own journey and establishing his own new home with his new bride, L'Amoureux takes responsibilities for his own actions - a maturing process. A different sense of the consequences of important decisions and choice is also represented in the WCS version, where, in the Eden garden, the choice of partaking of the Tree of Knowledge also has the consequence of expulsion from an existing home and the consequent responsibilities associated with both the establishment of one's own home and its needs. Once left, though the way back to the garden of Eden is there, it remains 'kept' by a flaming sword. At a jovial colloquial level, who would want to turn to one's parents-in-law's home? The CHOICE aspect, then, also indicates concomitant commitment - even in the face of numerous other difficulties (of course, there are sensible limits). This does not mean exchanging the parent with a partner, but in TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for one's own life and choices.

Livia	13 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Kiama As well as what has already been said, I see the Lovers card as about trying to unite different aspects of your self, usually opposing forces. Yin and Yang, masculine and feminine, active and passive, dark and light- uniting opposites within one's self to become a more balance individual. Also, I apply the zodiac sign of Gemini, the Twins to this card, so those who's Year Card/Soul card etc it is, may often find themselves in two minds all the time, always being pulled between two opposing options. Kiama I am a Gemini and the lovers seems to me to be not only unitining these opposing forces, but accepting that they are part of you. it also reminds me that i am prone to long term relationships i.e. I dated my husband almost 10 years before we got married, and my matron of honor I have known for more than 20 years

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