predictions

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 13 Nov 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

SunChariot	13 Nov 2004
Hi. I have a question for you all.:-) I only started 6 months ago and I'm looking for a little insight. I have done number of readings over those past 6 months. I have over 300 typed pages of them, and notes on what they taught me, LOL OK, maybe I AM obsessed just a little. But the cards have taught me so much about the world and myself and changed me in such a positive way. I really do love them. Most of the readings I have done have been about understanding myself better and on self-improvement. But of the readings I have done involving predictions (which have tended to be on a relationship issue), I haven't yet seen any predictions come true. Not that they did not manifest as predicted, but it seems it is still too soon to see the results of what they predicted. Although its like I can still see some form of magic happening all the same.:-) The cards say it will happen in about a year. I know I do keep getting the same card over the over on this issue (the Sun) over the past 6 months, more than 10 times now. And if another card comes up it says we are headed in that direction anyway. Even one time I asked if we would really "reach the Sun" and the cards said yes. You have to know some higher power is at work when the same card keeps coming up, week after week,month after month, and you know consciously that each time you thoroughly shuffle and deal deal the cards with no idea what will land where. And again on related issues the same messages come up over and over even in different decks with different cards...and no matter how many questions I ask I have never seen the cards contradict each other. So I do believe what they say will happen, but once I see it happen I will really be amazed with my cards. After all that, LOL my question is: I would love to hear from others about anything they learnt from predictions the cards have made for them that worked out, and what kind of things it taught them. OK technically that's not a question, but you know what I mean.:-) Thanks :-) Bar.

Paradox	13 Nov 2004
I've noticed something similar. None of my relationship questions have come out true, but all of my other types of questions have come out fully accurate. Maybe there's just something about relationship questions which are difficult to be answered.

SunChariot	14 Nov 2004
well not so much that they did not come true, just that it is too soon to tell. The results they predict are supposed to happen in 1-2 years, so the cards say, so it is too soon to tell. Bar

Phoenix Rising	14 Nov 2004
I know my relationship questions have come true. But have to remember that when it involves another person, well the timing is also concerned with what that persons state of mind is. Because as humans we can change our minds in seconds therefore adjusting the time frame. For any manifestation to occur it depends on 2 points of consciousness, Yours and there's! That will always affect the timing the event occurs in.

SunChariot	14 Nov 2004
Thanks Phoenix Rising, I found that really helpful!:-) One question: it IS a relationship question, but it is about someone I lost coming back into my life. It is a long story why he left, but neither of us really wanted it. The cards all say that we are meant to be together and he will come back and we will work it out in a year. And the Sun card keeps coming up over and over and over for our future. Since we have no contact at this point, I would think that the timeframe should be accurate for him, unless I do something at my end to change things.(?) Does that make sense??? Bar

SunChariot	14 Nov 2004
PS, Thanks for the positive input. It is a bit of a sensitive issue for me, and it was really comforting to hear from someone whose relationship predictions have come true. I am pretty sure mine will too after last night, cause I know something (someone was trying to tell me something) The cards have been predicting great things, and I was scared it was some kind of wish fulfillment I was doing as people say not to read for yourself in these issues, but they have consistently been giving the exact same message. Even if different decks different cards give me the same messages. And I have been careful, when I know I have feelings on an issue I go over the card and reading over and over to make sure it cannot be taken another way. In the midst of my crisis on whether you can accurately read for yourself, I got the first edition of a new Tarot newsletter. I opened it and it was like something I was meant to see, like destiny. Inside was an article saying you definitely can read accurately for yourself. And in that newsletter was a Tarot horoscope for this month. And mine said EXACTLY what my Tarot readings have said all along, almost word for word and my horoscope said in words that I should trust my intuitions,including those gained from Tarot. WOW! Plus, his horoscope said he was exactly where my readings said he was now in this issue. Someone sent me that reading for a reason to help me through my little crisis of faith. I never feel that kind of thing could ever be a coincidence. When you get so exactly what you need so exactly when you need it. Now I am sure I can trust them.:-) Bar

Phoenix Rising	14 Nov 2004
Hi Bardia, One thing I know for sure is that whatever and whoever you are meant to be with, will definitely arrange the right time of meeting, when you are both ready! You obviously had alot of growing to do without each other. You need to be both whole so when you come back together, there are no issues between you. So I suggest you just carry on with clearing out your issues, learning to like yourself alot more than you are at the moment. Don't wait, because you will hold up the progress, and when you least expect it, it will happen. What will be, will be. have faith!

SunChariot	14 Nov 2004
Wow, you're TOTALLY getting phychic on me tonight! LOL That is almost exactly what the cards have been saying. For 6 months they have all been saying just what you just said. Wow. That he is suffering a lot now too and misses me badly that he will come back and not wanting just my friendship. In that reading I was using the Ancestral Path deck and the card was actaully a knight in shining armour (Lancelot) no less, which meant in the book something about the impassioned lover coming back with all the optimism of youth....and wanting to discuss our feelings... Whatever the book said I could see right away the card was so romantic,not about friendship at all.(we are both almost 50 now, we first dated almsot 20 years ago, but he had to leave the country at the time as he was not a citizen and I could not follow:-(I was married/separated for 3 years and I had to stay and await my divorce. I totally never got over the feeling we were meant to be together and the cards keep agreeing, he came back 3 years agob(after we were apart 12 years),but it was messed up we were both with other people but still very very much in love, and he had to go again. But yes, the cards have been saying all along that I need to change some things in myself first. There have been a lot of readings saying I need to learn from the past, a lot saying I need to learn to see things from a broader perspective and the last said that I had to resolve the issues surrouding the Hermit card first, although honestly I am not sure what that means, But in the 6 months since I started almost all the cards about our future have been the Sun,over and over it come up.:-) Well, I guess you can see I really love him.:-) And the last reading I asked for a timeframe and it said in about 1 year he would come back and we would have the Sun. Hope I haven't bored you to tears yet. But I was really amazed when you said just what the cards did.:-) I owe you one. If you have any sob stories I'm here to listen. LOL Bar

joya250	14 Nov 2004
hi Bardia, Interesting how you phrased that sentence: he would come back and we would have the Sun. ... typically the Sun card (or at least in many Rider Waite clones, I am unfamilar with the deck you are using) features a child, or children. Perhaps this card is being quite literal, as in you will have a SON. Perhaps you two are to come together and create another life through your love for each other. Just something that popped into my head as I read your post. And, as you know, to bring a child into this world, it is advisable that both parties be ready to handle the large level of responsibilty, commitment, etc. that that entails. Perhaps this time apart is neseccary for you both to get to that point where you are not only ready for each other, but for even more, like a family! Good luck with everything. Trust in All That Is. :) take care, joya

SunChariot	14 Nov 2004
I don't think the card is about children, at least not about having children together. If he does come back in a year I will be 49 and he will be 50, we are too old for that now. Although now he has 3 children from another woman, and it's hard for me because I think having his children was what I wanted most in my life. And to be with him forever. I loved him so much I could never bear the thought of having another man's children, Sorry I am such a downer tonight.LOL Actually the card seems to mean for us that will we have a warm loving relationship full of joy and love, and apparently the heat of the sun also symbolizes a physical relationship,not just friendship. All my cards are saying that that we will have something like what we had before but simpler without all thje complications Bar

SunChariot	14 Nov 2004
Actually, one of my yes/no readings actually said as well that we will end up living together one day. Bar

Phoenix Rising	14 Nov 2004
Hi Bardia Yes I've got the ancestral path deck too. Yes i love "Lancelot" actually I'm just reading a novel with him in it. And the Sun card is really beautiful. Warmth, passion. The Sun is undying, it raises every day without fail, and will forever rise. So a undying relationship... You should post one of your readings in the "your readings" forum, we can all give you some insight.

SunChariot	14 Nov 2004
Thank you so much Phoenix Rising and to everyone for their help. I feel better already, and I am sure now I am not misreading things.:-) That's pretty well how I have been seeing the Sun too, when it comes to our future. Although the deck that the Sun comes up for me in is the Haindl one. In the Haindl deck there is an image of a big red rose, in front of a sun. The Sun is made up of spirals to show eternity. :-) I WOULD add one of my readings in, but I am not sure you guys are ready for that. LOL Some of mine get to up to 40 pages (typed) long on a 10 card spread. LOL I can go usually 4-5 just on a one card spread. Maybe I will spare you that, :-) but I may add part of one in one day. I am just totally fascinated by my cards, as you can see. LOL I may add in that last one about him coming back when I deal with the issues concerning the Hermit card. I am really not sure what issues exactly I need to look at. I will figure it out I am sure though. I think I will post that later and get some advice. But in the meantime, thank you all so much. I was in a minor crisis of faith and I really do feel better now. Bar

joya250	15 Nov 2004
(((((( Bar )))))) :)

SunChariot	15 Nov 2004
Oh BTW. I changed my name tonight to SunChariot. bardia was too boring. But it is still me and I will still see you all around. And am looking forward to it. :-) Bar/SunChariot (formerly bardia)

Umbrae	16 Nov 2004
Predictions…yeah they can be spot on. The problem with them is the timing. For instance SunChariot (Helios?) stated, “The cards say it will happen in about a year.” Hmmmm So I’ll refer you to a previously posted post where I plagiarized from myself…

SunChariot	16 Nov 2004
I loved your article Umbrae. Thanks! Do people here thing that you can ask in a reading when something will happen? I understand of course that it that implies that it will happen at that time only if nothing in the situation changes. And that if is does it could happen later or not at all. This is the method I used. I found it online on a site I liked, although I do not remember where now.:-): "Swords=days Wands=weeks Cups- months and Pentacles (which was called Sacred Circles in the deck I used) was years Courts= the timeframe depends entirely on teh decisions or actions of the querent or another person, which have not been taken yet. Trumps-will happen once the issues presented by the Trump are dealt with-no timeframe specified. These cards represent the major life issues adn may take anywhere from days to decades to resolve. If you want to be more specific, the numbers on the cards can give you an indication of how many days, weeks, months or years. As with any method...reversals should be examined, because these can represent obstacles to the resolution of the issue. The timing only presents a potential for when things could happen ,if any obstacles are removed. A spread that is mostly or entirely reversed my represent a situation in which teh event being asked about may never happen of which has too many obstacles to overcome in unpredictable ways." The funny thing is that when I asked when he will come back into my life (many many readings had already said he would) it gave me the Hermit card. Does anyone here have any idea what issues that means I need to deal with first??? I am really not sure I am getting that part. Then when I asked when we would have that relationship symbolized by the Sun that the cards keep telling me of as well. I got the Ace of Sacred Circles (which means one year). I took that to mean that by then I will have dealt with those issues and come to terms with them and he will come back and we will start to work it out. Any other ideas anyone? Bar (formerly bardia)

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