could a used deck have bad ju-ju? depending on how you aquired it?
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 26 Dec 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| pattiwhacker |
26 Dec 2004 |
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I have had a marseilles deck for a few yrs. that a friend gave me (or sold?)
and Im sure it wasnt hers and I dont know how she got them or where.
so I guess what Im asking is can they become mine?
Its my first and only deck and I have just recently been getting to know them.
handling them every day, reading about them and the marseilles history, how to do reading, but never have done that yet.
anyways they feel good and mine! please help.
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| WalesWoman |
26 Dec 2004 |
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If they feel good...that should be all that matters. No matter who had them, you have made them yours. Relax and enjoy them.
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| Rosanne |
26 Dec 2004 |
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I can bet the original owner of the deck would be pleased that the Tarot had found a home of a seeker, regardless of their journey to you. If they are not damaged, at least they have been treated with respect on their journey. I hope they will be a great tool of enlightenment in your hands. Regards Rosanne.
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| Fulgour |
26 Dec 2004 |
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juju
Definition: a charm or amulet with magical powers; also written ju-ju
Etymology: French joujou `plaything'
1. An object used as a fetish, a charm, or an amulet in West Africa.
2. The supernatural power ascribed to such an object.
3. A style of Nigerian popular music featuring drums and guitars.
[[i]Hausa[/i] juju: fetish, evil spirit.]
"Juju bags containing graveyard dirt and other material which had had a spell put upon it by juju are effective for either good or evil purposes. A bag of this sort worn around the neck serves as a protection from the spells of enemies. However, if a person wishes to work evil on their enemy, they may purchase a juju bag containing evil powder, and through it cast a spell on their enemy." ~Harold Palmquist
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| jmd |
26 Dec 2004 |
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Thanks for that etymology lesson, Fulgour - I must admit I read the term and thought it may have referred to something similar to 'mojo', but wasn't quite sure.
I tend to agree with Rosanne and WalesWoman.
Especially as you seem to be handling them each day, and they already feel as though they are 'yours'... just continue to use them, pattiwhacker, and welcome to Aeclectic.
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| Adjustment |
26 Dec 2004 |
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If they feel good...that should be all that matters. No matter who had them, you have made them yours. Relax and enjoy them.
I Agree, you made your own deck yours no matter to who this dek belong before, you will give it you own personal touch.
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| Diana |
26 Dec 2004 |
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I have had a marseilles deck for a few yrs. that a friend gave me (or sold?)
and Im sure it wasnt hers and I dont know how she got them or where.
so I guess what Im asking is can they become mine?
No bad ju-ju possible with Marseilles decks. Only good ju-ju possible. :)
It is your belief that will make the deck "work" or not. If you believe that decks can carry an evil spirit or whatever, you will not work with it with confidence. If you think it carries good spirits, you may give the deck power it does not have. If you believe the deck is neutral, it will be neutral.
It's up to you. What do you believe?
I personally would work with ANY deck. Even one that had been used by an "evil" person. Because I do not give power to my decks. I give power to me. Decks are just pieces of cardboard for me.
It's really up to you to make up your mind whether you believe in hocus-pocus or not. No-one can decide that for you. You are your own Master.
As to the thread that has been linked further up, i.e. suggesting that a deck is "asking for a blood sacrifice".... well, this makes me roll on the floor with laughter. I haven't read anything so funny for weeks on Aeclectic. It's better than the movies! :D
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| rota |
26 Dec 2004 |
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Any object carries vibrations of its history. People with the talent of reading those vibrations are called 'psychometers'.
So, a tarot deck is no exception -- naturally it carries vibrations that express its former owners. It's possible to 'cleanse' any object that you acquire if you want to remove any 'psychic dirt'. It just requires some concentration while going through a cleaning process. Any book on talismans will give you a recipe for making an object vibrationally clean, or for giving an object a particular type of vibration.
Sometimes, if the deck has vibrations you want to preserve, you simply leave it alone.
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| jmd |
26 Dec 2004 |
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Though I too personally agree that a deck (and any object) may indeed be embedded with elemental force that one may prefer to be cleansed of, I took pattiwhacker's assessment that 'they feel good and mine!' to be the guiding factor in this case.
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| similia |
27 Dec 2004 |
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I think if they feel OK, then they are OK. If you feel there is a problem, decide what is needed to make you feel happy with the deck. (cleansing, meditation etc.)
If your friend gave/sold them to you, then they are already yours, and it is up to you to decide how you want to use them.
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| Emily |
27 Dec 2004 |
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I also agree with others on here - If the deck has a good feeling about it then I'd say that you've already made them yours. Use and enjoy. :)
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| HudsonGray |
27 Dec 2004 |
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To paraphrase one of the other threads (not sure which one, but on the same subject of 'energies' held in inanimate things) your toaster could be harboring resentment & need to be cleansed, or the dehumidifier may be feeling the negative vibrations from a visitor....the list goes on, why stop at tarot cards? Put that way, it does sound silly, doesn't it. What would make a tarot deck any different than cherished photos or the living room sofa?
I think the connection is primarily in the subconscious mind, you do what you feel the subconscious needs to make it better for you. If this entails smudging or laying them out in the moonlight, so be it. You're catering to your inner child on this. Once the inner child is ok with things, everything works out. The deck itself is just paper and ink, it just helps you make the connections that let you read the deck.
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| jmd |
27 Dec 2004 |
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If my toaster picks up negative 'energy' from a visitor, then I would presume that this would either not impact or only minutely so on its capacity for toasting.
Likewise my laptop - picking up a static charge, on the other hand, may cause it to have serious damage.
If cards are used for the purposes of divination, then accumulating and collecting certain types of 'energy' may perhaps also likewise seriously affect it in ways that picking up a static electrical charge may not.
Our surroundings are indeed permeated with various 'charges'. The function of the items, however, needs to be relatively free of charges that impede their respective functions or uses.
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| Fulgour |
27 Dec 2004 |
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"...a juju bag containing evil powder, and through it cast a spell on their enemy." ~Harold Palmquist Maybe had already heard of Harry Palmquist?
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| smokey |
28 Dec 2004 |
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You can also program your cards after cleansing them, (or) do a little 'ritual' to your liking to put you more 'in-tune' with your deck. NONE of this is a Requirement, though; so PLEASE don't read it as such!!! (Mainly just to make You feel more at ease...HudsonGray's smudging &/or moonlight work well.) Sounds like you're doing Just-Fine as is with your Marseilles! ((Hugs and Welcome!!!))
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| Diana |
28 Dec 2004 |
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Let us not judge Energy with such haste.
Who are we to say: "this is bad energy" and "this is good energy". Is not all Energy needed to make the world work? (Batteries for instance have both a negative and a positive pole in order to work properly.)
I prefer to use all the Energy available to me. :)
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| pattiwhacker |
30 Dec 2004 |
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wow- good feedback!
im still handling them every day and I guess Im so serious about it because even though Ive yet to do a reading, I feel that you become one with the cards. I know I would feel better if I knew the person giving me a reading felt a connection with her cards and didnt think of them as just paper and ink.
I want them to be my guide. Anyways Ive got a long way to go just to understand them. but at least there patient!
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The could a used deck have bad ju-ju? depending on how you aquired it? thread was originally posted on 26 Dec 2004 in the Talking Tarot board, and is now archived in the Forum Library. Read the active threads in Talking Tarot, or read more archived threads.
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