Client revealed

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 30 Mar 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

jumptothemoonyea	30 Mar 2005
Is there such a thing as a "bad" client? Or good client? What are they? How to determine this? Or there is no such thing, but only good or "bad" reader? Or particular readers attract particular sort of clients? And backwards? Any suggestions are appreciated. :)

rainwolf	31 Mar 2005
Well, if the reading is hard it could be because the matter at hand is difficult. Some clients give you a lot of bull, so maybe they would be "bad" and some ask questions and clarify things and try to help themselves which is probably "good". A "bad" reader may read in their own interest, while a "good" reader would read to help others and possibly make a living. In terms of accuracy and bad readings, if your not experienced enough....maybe dont charge for readings. I dont think they attract bad people per se, but if the reader is selfish and does it for personal gain, maybe they should attract problematic querents. I dont know if the bad aura would work on this, but who knows.

similia	31 Mar 2005
The answer is yes.... :D I would say there are incompatible clients that are better referred. Although it is good to bear in mind that a grumpy person is usually an unhappy person and so in greater need of your help (even if you want to just smack them ;) ) I would agree that certain types of practitioners attract certain types of clients. I think of them as gift from the universe, and a chance for me to learn (and perhaps occaisionally the universe smacking me back :mad: )

Emeraldgirl	31 Mar 2005
I agree that there are people who are incompatable. I won't read for anyone who seems to be sarcastic and insecure. I find those people belittle everything around them to make themselves feel better (so far I have only done readings for people who I know so I know who those people are). I will simply tell them "No I don't feel it would work well with you." and leave it at that. There are bad readers to I'm sure. I know a girl who used to read tarot at market stalls and she used to lie to people and tell them only good things so they would keep on coming back. That is what a really bad reader is to me.

Fulgour	31 Mar 2005
jumptothemoonyea wrote: Is there such a thing as a "bad" client? Or good client? What are they? How to determine this? You can learn a lot about a person by the sort of questions they ask.

psychic sue	31 Mar 2005
"BAD" - mmm - I wouldn't say I'd come across a bad client. I have had clients who come for a reading and then put up a mental block. One lady told me she didn't really want her cards read, but her friend has pushed her into it, hence the reading before me was jumbled and messy. Sometimes, people want the cards read but are a little afraid, or have had a "belief" from their childhood that such things are in some way "wrong" - I have found these clients difficult to read for too. Is that what you mean? Or do you mean you have picked up "bad vibes" from a person? I don't think I have ever felt that with a client, luckily. Sue x

caridwen	31 Mar 2005
I don't know. From experience I read with for a friend who couldn't make a decision without consulting the cards from then on. I refused to read for her after a while. Some I"ve read for are very defensive and refuse to aknowledge negative aspects the cards have picked up on - they kind of take it as though I'm personally insulting them or something. I usually try to pepper readings with positive as well as negative but some just focus on the negative. I think a good querent is one who is totally involved with the reading. Who picks up on card images you as reader, may not have seen. Who helps you interpret the cards and gives necessary information that would make the reading more complete and therefore, useful to them. I'm not reading for my own benefit so I don't see the point in holding back.

Fudugazi	31 Mar 2005
Some querents are insecure and get hurt when we touch upon things they don't realise about themselves, or things that pain them - areas of burn-out. But these are not "bad" querents. Simply seekers, like ourselves. Like Caridwen, I try and bring in the positive as well as the negative. But I have had times when the positive was bady received! This is particularly the case with people going through a depressed stage, when anything positive can actually jar them - they get angry because I say - go outdoors more, discover nature, enjoy the summer sun, go shopping with friend - all this can hurt a soul in pain. So I have learnt to be careful with how I phrase the positive as well. The only bad clients I can think of are those that don't pay (if you charge for your readings - I don't) and those that plan to use your reading to commit bad acts against other people.

Dark Inquisitor	31 Mar 2005
My bad client always gave me a bad feeling.After a while I really wanted her to just go away. I could tell she wanted me to read for her, but there were things she didn't want me to know. And I knew. And she started to suspect I knew. She was a friend of a friend , and I knew only her name, location, and question. ( I read via email .) After the first reading, my friend told me this person had been to other readers and deliberately lied to them . And when the readers didn't call her a liar, she went around badmouthing them and calling them frauds. I guess I avoided that fate by not permitting any information to be given. I went to some of the same readers she lied to, and they gave me accurate and wonderful readings. I don't know why skeptical people expect psychics to rudely scream LIAR at a client . The reader has to accept what the person is plainly telling them - you can't go around accusing people , and you could be very wrong in your accusation. If you're skeptical, just say nothing at all, as I do. If the first reading was accurate, on the second I will be more revealing because I know the reader is genuine. So after more readings when bad client began to suspect I "knew" , she decided she needed to come to my house for a reading to make sure I was doing what I said I was doing. She left apparently convinced I was , because she had studied a little herself and knew some of the card meanings . Later on, my friend told me that it's a good possibility I was being blatantly used as research material for this person's skanky fiction books. Which does not feel good or fair.

StellaJane	31 Mar 2005
There are definitely people I won't read for, but not because I think they're bad. It's more like I just don't want to be that intimate with them for some reason -- either I know them and don't trust them, or I just have a negative reaction to the person, but that's not very often. I've also read for people who weren't really invested in the reading, and those readings were more superficial than the ones I've done for people who were very open. I don't think the uninvested people were bad, but they didn't get the best readings they could have gotten.

Gwynne	31 Mar 2005
I've had one client that I would consider "bad" but not because she was a bad person. She was very clingy, very dependent, and I finally ended up having to get very blunt and tell her not to come back. I have a rule that I won't read for someone more than once a week, and I'll only cover a particular question for them once a month, if that. She got to where she was calling daily, asking the same question over and over and over, I started ignoring the phone when her number showed up on caller ID. Last I knew she'd bounced through several other local readers, always seeking the same question, always getting the same or at least similar answers, and never actually doing anything about it.

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