How often do the decks you use flavor your readings?
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 14 Mar 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| Tsuzuki |
14 Mar 2005 |
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The reason I ask is because a tarot reading, if accurate, would naturally fall under the jurisdiction of the observer effect in quantum mechanics, in which the tool used for observation has an effect on what's being observed.
So, basically what I'm asking is, have those of you that read with different decks had outcomes that kind of resemble the different decks used in one way or another?
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| The Dreamer |
15 Mar 2005 |
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My understanding of the observer effect in quantum mechanics is that it is the fact that observation by a conscious being is taking place which has an effect on what is being observed, and not what tool is being used for observation. Tools for observation do of course often have an effect upon what is being observed, but that is not what is so mysterious about the quantum mechanics observer effect.
However, I do find that I get different kinds of answers from my various decks, because I do not generalize card meanings. That is why I like to have a variety of decks. The uniqueness and flavor of each card of each deck is there as a possibility which can come up, which allows for a great variety of meanings, without having to allow leeway in interpretation.
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| Eco74 |
15 Mar 2005 |
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I'd say every single time.
Each deck I have has its own "dialect" and style that certainly colors the way it reads. It's as if different vocabularies or different depths are reached with each and so I tend to choose the deck by the querent/question to get a "tone of deck" that suits the querent and gives me an answer in a dialect s/he can understand.
It would do little for a querent if they have a question on how to handle a situation with a colleague at work and I start babbling on and on about the deep psycological meanings of growing and nurturing etc.
Better then to choose a deck that I feel can address the question and put the answer in a good straight forward and more practical way.
The wame way really if one chooses to wear yellow, tan or rose-colored sunglasses. The world comes out looking very different in each. :)
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| Milamber |
15 Mar 2005 |
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Are you suggesting that it may be possible to influence a reading to some degree, and therefore perhaps reality, by selecting a deck whose imagery matches closely to your desired outcome?
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| snowy25 |
15 Mar 2005 |
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Are you suggesting that it may be possible to influence a reading to some degree, and therefore perhaps reality, by selecting a deck whose imagery matches closely to your desired outcome?
I think it's more then this.
Maybe there is a minor influence but only because the reader and querrent have to understand eachother.
An exsample;
If I would do a reading for a child (theoreticaly so to speak) I would use a deck with playfull images.
If I would do a reading for someone who's a lot older I could use a deck that has images in it that could give this same child nightmares.
Now I never did readings for children but like in this exsample it's sometimes apropriate to ajust decks by people or their situation.
Love and light
Snowy
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| Eco74 |
15 Mar 2005 |
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Are you suggesting that it may be possible to influence a reading to some degree, and therefore perhaps reality, by selecting a deck whose imagery matches closely to your desired outcome?
Not perhaps as much the "desired outcome" as the "style of the question".
For example I have decks that are quite happy to delve into the deep end of "why" rather than "what" or "how" and going in that end for a question of less depth could give some confusing replies, just as choosing a more "instant tips"-type deck with less psycological depth for a question on how to handle a difficult emotional situation would make the reply possibly less "on target" than a "deeper" deck would.
But ofcourse this has more to do with how I respond to the style and artwork and to some extent also how the querent might react to the style and art - and less to do with what the deck actually says.
I'm pretty sure any deck could provide the needed answers, but it helps me atleast to choose the deck for the occation since it puts me in a state of mind where I can tune in to the particular question a little easier if I choose a "more appropriate deck".
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| Alta |
15 Mar 2005 |
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For me also the deck influences the reading. Influences, not determines. I also pick the deck for the situation, some decks just seem to be better at drawing out cerrtain sorts of situations. You gradually learn this as you work with your decks. Some can can almost jar you when you try and use them for a type of question they were not designed to handle.
Some decks of course are more general and can be used for most kinds of readings. The so-called (by some) 'standard decks' like RWs, Thoth and TdM can be used for any question. It is just that it is interesting to tackle questions from a point of view.
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| Elven |
15 Mar 2005 |
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Not always but at times I let the querant choose the deck from which I read for them. The decks I offer are decks that I can confidently read and have spent much time learning and communicating with. It is interesting that I have noted that the deck a person chooses will interpret accurately there question - and yes I do interpret the deck individually.
Each has its own language and meaning to me. Between us (the deck and I) we have a rapour and respect, without this the reading lacks a certain type of collective cooperation.
I also find the most querants feel part of the reading immediately. Like its personalized. If they are new to a reading I may do three spreads from my core reading deck (RW), but for one of the spreads I will use completely different deck (at my choosing) and this will depend one the previous or last outcome.
The decks I use have (to me anyway) their own colour and personalities. Some are friendly to the querant, or the querant is more accepting of the deck. To me, the choice of deck can almost pick the tone of the reading or the type of question and personality of the querant.
Some decks are serious (if I am the chooser - so to speak) - like I feel my Thoth and Visconti Sforza are for a mature or worldly person or especially with the Visconti-Sforza (this is my absolutely special deck) I like to use this deck for reading for friends, and one friend in particular gets quite a good flow and rythm from my readings when I use this deck where as she doesn't particually like the RW - thinks its a bit ho hum. I notice that her questions are more precise and she leans over the table to look at the cards and interact, where with the RW she more "Well what do you reckon".
Is it me, the querant or the deck? I think all three influence the way the reading is from start to finish and each has there specific 'job' or bit that we contribute during the reading. Collectively we come to the conclusion for the best possible outcome we percieve to be correct at the time of the reading.
Now what was the question? Who's observing who?
Does anyone else use this method of letting the querant choose the deck? Maybe I'll ask it on a seperate post, Im a newbie and not sure where everything goes yet.
Elven x
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| Ahria |
15 Mar 2005 |
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I think that different decks are for different purposes, as they each have their own personailities, quirks and languages.
I don't think they would alter the main message just the way its delivered, for instance if I want a softer, gentle answer I would use my Goddess Tarot, if I want blunt honesty I use Osho Zen, I also find some decks are feminane and others masuline.
I dont use the traditional fit for each card as I think each deck has its own way of transmitting a message, and each has its place.
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| rabidwolfie |
17 Mar 2005 |
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I have 2 decks that I do my readings from & though I use the same interpretations for each, my unicorn deck tends to gently break news of bad events or news, & will slightly sugarcoat or skirt the subject.
My dragon deck however tends to lack the manners of my other deck & will come straight out with it. It can be almost rude at times, so to speak. It's odd how that turned out.
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| firemaiden |
17 Mar 2005 |
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Well, because of my method of reading, the deck IS the reading. I mean, it is mainly the imagery that I read, and the coincidences between pictures.
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