Interesting Feedback on reading

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 21 Apr 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Free Flight	21 Apr 2005
Hi All :) I did a reading for a girl at work and lots of things came up about her dad via the Emperor rx in a crucial position in the spread. The cards showed that she has a lot of anger which was all justified but was leading to problems in current relationships and was an enourmous weight on her shoulders. I advised her to write a letter to her dad with the intention of never giving it to him. Pour all her pain into this letter, Relive the feelings of hurt and betrayal, and basically write all the pain in her onto this piece of paper....After this to keep this letter for a short time but when she was able to take this and burn it..I have had success with this method previously in letting go of emotions I am carrying around and to promote forgiveness So I just spoke to her today: She had done as suggested did this and cried and wept and grieved as she wrote it. All the pain came out spontaneously as she wrote it...Then, 3 days later, one morning she got up and decided to let this go. She burnt it and went to work that afternoon her dad called her (he has not called her in years) and said he had just drove past her house and left her flowers on her verandah...She was so happy, he apparently has not ever given her flowers and their relations were acrimonious to say the least. Is this a reward from the cosmos for forgiveness? Or perhaps something else? Or perhaps this is a mere coincidence? All the same, thought it was lovely and wanted to share :)

Tabby	21 Apr 2005
Hey, would that work if your having problems with a significant other? Just curious. I don't want to go into details. I just want this storm or whatever it is between me and him to pass over.

WalesWoman	21 Apr 2005
It's worked for me with failed relationships, writing out how I felt and burning those and the letters from the early days from him. It was like so much pain, anger and disappointment floated away on the breeze with the ash and I felt so much better afterwards...only no bouquets were left on my door. Please take note, that big huge forest fire in Colorado a couple years ago was started in this very same way... only she just burnt his letter, not her greif and anger. So be careful where you decide to burn... :)

gollog	21 Apr 2005
Hi freeflight, What a lovely story to share! And thanks for the advice about the letter, I will have to keep that in mind. Cheers, Gollog

MeeWah	21 Apr 2005
Free Flight: It means ye did GOOD! Such an exercise of the nature of ritualistic cleansing; an exorcism of that which taints the spirit/heart/mind. In burning a karmic ribbon/pattern, one frees the self to forgiveness & healing. Closes the door & opens another. That her father responded is part of the breaking of the old, the creation of the new. Btw: I recall the fire of WalesWoman's reference. For safety, all such activities need be conducted under controlled conditions using a fireproof vessel.

Free Flight	22 Apr 2005
StormsNeverLast wrote: Hey, would that work if your having problems with a significant other? Just curious. I don't want to go into details. I just want this storm or whatever it is between me and him to pass over. Hi StormsNeverLast It does work. I first did this when I was like 12 and I was very angry at a friend of mine. I cannot even remember why now..I kind of did it in anger but boy oh boy...immediate release and forgiveness. I have used this quite a lot since and it is very therapeutic.

Free Flight	22 Apr 2005
MeeWah wrote: Free Flight: It means ye did GOOD! Such an exercise of the nature of ritualistic cleansing; an exorcism of that which taints the spirit/heart/mind. In burning a karmic ribbon/pattern, one frees the self to forgiveness & healing. Closes the door & opens another. That her father responded is part of the breaking of the old, the creation of the new. Btw: I recall the fire of WalesWoman's reference. For safety, all such activities need be conducted under controlled conditions using a fireproof vessel. thanks Meewah, I didn't know it had noted significance. I felt good after this as she had been very thankful. :)

Fudugazi	22 Apr 2005
Well you didn't read for me Free Flight - but you've given me an idea! I have a lot of old stuff that needs looking at - and burning away.... What you did is a perfect illustration of the reading/advice-giving that was discussed on these boards in the last couple of weeks. Well done!

Alta	22 Apr 2005
Free Flight, thank you for sharing. I had read about that method, but hearing such dramatic results makes it seem understandable on a deeper level. I like MeeWah's explanation, the burning of old karmic ties that had them both in knots. Wonderful, just completely wonderful.

snowy25	22 Apr 2005
I know this method and one time I realy had a bad experiance with it. I burned a letter I wrote in an ashtray and my table never looked the same again }) Then I've decided if I ever tried it again I would tear up the letter in stad. But it seems in some way fire does a better job.

waya	22 Apr 2005
I'm going to try this too. Thanks for the idea, Free Flight.

Fairawen	22 Apr 2005
That's great Free Flight! I'm glad to hear how much one person can help another. Wow. I get all excited about it. It's great! Ha. Great job Free Flight. It's wonderful to feel that you've really made an impact, isn't it? :) Thanks for sharing! ~Fairawen~

MeeWah	22 Apr 2005
snowy25 wrote: ...I've decided if I ever tried it again I would tear up the letter in stad. But it seems in some way fire does a better job. Snowy25: Fire has cleansing properties; transmutes & transforms. Depending on its composition, an ashtray not practical for such purposes due to the heat generated which tends to damage any surface underneath if not also set upon a raised heat-proof surface. I have used an old outdoor barbeque grill away from wind; then buried the ashes.

Free Flight	23 Apr 2005
The interesting thing that strikes me about this is that there can be problems with the burning the girl who I read for actually had problems burning this. She was over her sink with a candle and the letter wouldnt light or burn properly...She was kind of yelling at it 'burn you (Insert swear word here)'....She said it took some time to actually go and I thought nothing of it at the time but then both Wales Woman and Snowy 25 mentioned this as well. Wales Woman I would be interested if you could elaborate about the forest fire. You said her pain was never healed...And to me I can imagine her rage was so big it kind of fuelled the fire, metaphorically speaking...Then Snowy25 burnt a hole in the table. Could that mean forgiveness was given but there was a scar forever burnt.. I am thinking here in a metaphorical sense but what if our negative emotions were really that strong. No wonder there is a link between the mind and body. I have heard that (and boy this could open another kettle of fish) cancer is the disease caused from repressing emotions and that AIDS is caused by guilt...(Yes I know there are millions of kids in Africa who are not gay and not guilty for it and have AIDS so yes this kind of blows this theory out of the water) But all the same it has given me much food for thought this weekend x FF

WolfSpirit	23 Apr 2005
StormsNeverLast wrote: Hey, would that work if your having problems with a significant other? Just curious. I don't want to go into details. I just want this storm or whatever it is between me and him to pass over. It will mostly work for yourself, it helps you distance yourself from old grief. So you can open yourself to a healthier form of communication. I think in Free Flight's example the querent had a strong bond with her father (despite the fighting) and the father sensed something had changed. I think it will definitely be good for you, but it is no sure thing your partner will pick up on this. BTW I have a copper flower pot I can use to burn a piece of paper in. Always make sure the vessel you use is big enough - a piece of paper only burns a short while but the flame can get high (and jump to something else if the flame rises above the vessel you use).

Tabby	24 Apr 2005
I wrote my letter to my significant other last night, and I burnt it this morning in my barbecue grill. It sure didn't take that long to burn. Like the previous thread stated. I wanted to gather up the ashes and bury them somewhere, but the wind had other plans this morning...lol So, I just sit back and let the ashes fly. I hope it works as well. I do amazingly feel better. I just don't know what other impact it is going to have.

snowy25	24 Apr 2005
MeeWah wrote: Fire has cleansing properties; transmutes & transforms. So I guess it does a better job then tearing the letter because tearing it into pieces would mean the painfull things are minimized but they didn't go away just jet. Hm.. this really IS an interesting toppic. Free Flight wrote: Wales Woman I would be interested if you could elaborate about the forest fire. You said her pain was never healed...And to me I can imagine her rage was so big it kind of fuelled the fire, metaphorically speaking...Then Snowy25 burnt a hole in the table. Could that mean forgiveness was given but there was a scar forever burnt.. I am thinking here in a metaphorical sense but what if our negative emotions were really that strong. I never thought of this, just figured I burned the letter in a wrong way. But to awnser your question about my feelings at the time (16 or 17 years old and heartbroken by some guy) the feelings still lingered but the real frustration I had felt before I wrote the letter where gone. The power of the emotion at the time was the loss I felt of my first love. So I guess it wasn't just about the emotion but mostley about the method I used. I'll remember MeeWah's advice about the outdoor bbq. It might get in handy some day.

MeeWah	24 Apr 2005
Free Flight wrote: The interesting thing that strikes me about this is that there can be problems with the burning... ...Wales Woman I would be interested if you could elaborate about the forest fire. You said her pain was never healed...And to me I can imagine her rage was so big it kind of fuelled the fire, metaphorically speaking...Then Snowy25 burnt a hole in the table.... ...I am thinking here in a metaphorical sense but what if our negative emotions were really that strong. No wonder there is a link between the mind and body... x FF That energy raised in love of the same energy source as that raised in anger. Hence that of the negative emotions equally as strong as the positive (& some inclined to see as even stronger). After "release", a domino/richochet effect, much as that which ensues with a pebble dropped into a pond. That is what happened to cause that forest fire. The emotions dwell in the inner recesses, of the accumulated experiences & complex individual mechanism. May be relatively unknown to the person thus conflicted or influenced by that well. Metaphysically speaking, there exists a link between the mind & the body. We are more than a mere physical body or presence. Thoughts are things. Of a complex mechanism including the direct & indirect causal influences not immediately discernible nor explainable via the usual means. An example: the "bad things" happening to "good people".

MeeWah	24 Apr 2005
WolfSpirit wrote: It will mostly work for yourself, it helps you distance yourself from old grief. So you can open yourself to a healthier form of communication. I think in Free Flight's example the querent had a strong bond with her father (despite the fighting) and the father sensed something had changed. I think it will definitely be good for you, but it is no sure thing your partner will pick up on this. WolfSpirit correct. The other person need not "pick up", but within the conscious & deliberate act to release the self from the binding ties, one severs the link to a pattern that impedes the individual well-being. That of itself frees the self from the "obligations" otherwise entailed by such a link.

MeeWah	24 Apr 2005
In addition: before one moves to act, crucial to the cleansing process the understanding & the clarity of intent/purpose. Not to bend another's will, but to offer & contribute of one's own free will towards closure which can contribute to freeing the other person also.

amyel	29 Apr 2005
he he he I did this when I first moved to Canada. I had been involved with a guy (of course) and he was one of the reasons I was moving to the country. He'd send me long letters full of love & hope for months - and then saw me once when I moved up and promptly started coming up with reasons to not see me. I wasn't completely on my own. My dad & step-mum lived there and I was living with them. And this guy did do one great thing - he introduced to me some friends of his. Anyway, the friends took me under their wing, and we had a great summer....but the guy was never around. It actually angered his friends. So at the end of the summer, in park, under a sky that I recall seeing northern lights & tons of stars sparkling in (although my memory may have enhanced it somewhat), I burned all his love letters. The two new friends helped me - and they saw what a huge lie this guy had been feeding me for months and why I was so confused and upset. I left just enough of the letters for the guy to know what this paper bag of ashes contained, and then I left it on his doorstep. I never saw or spoke to him again, but about three months later, I started dating one of the friends, Chris, who became one of the great loves of my life. We parted ways two years later, but I don't think we ever quite got over each other. Sadly, he died when he was 40 - we had just reconnected after losing touch 7 years before. Burning those letters was not a revenge thing. It really was theraputic. And without doing it, I doubt I could have opened myself up to accepting Chris into my life. And that would have been sad.

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