A very weird way to use tarot cards?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 15 May 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

lili	15 May 2005
Hi i want to share this item a found on the internet (ebay) under the title (OUIJA BOARD / TAROT BOARD ~ TAROT CARDS BOARD 22 MAJOR ARCANA ON DIVINATION BOARD & PLANCHETTE):eek: you can search for it on ebay by typing the title above on their searching and see this weird thing since i can't post the link on aeclectic, it worth to see it so you will know what i'm talking about:confused:. It is a quija board/tarot board, i have never before seen such a thing the 22 Major Arcana cards from the Tarot are placed around the border of the board in a circular arrangement. What are your opinions about mixing or integrating a quija board with tarot. here is the link to the page eBay link removed by moderator

Citrin	15 May 2005
I don't believe in Ouijaboards, so it's nothing for me. But I've seen people combine tarot with all sorts of things. Runes are common around here, I think. So as long as it works, why not?

lili	15 May 2005
Citrin wrote: I don't believe in Ouijaboards, so it's nothing for me . But I've seen people combine tarot with all sorts of things. Runes are common around here, I think. So as long as it works, why not? Yes, i have seen tarot mixed with other divination tools but no with a quija board because the reputation of quija boards i thought it was rare.:D

Fairawen	15 May 2005
I personally consider ouija a COMPLETELY different field then tarot. Tarot is not asking unknown spirits for help. It's either asking yourself or your grand diety, in my case God. Ouija, which I've done some research on, is asking an unknown. I think this can be dangerous, considering you never know what you can get. Mark, you aren't asking your self (your soul, your inner guide, ect.) but are asking spirits (ghosts for example are a way alot of people use the ouija) for silly things. There is a major difference between asking yourself and asking something that isn't yourself, and yet is still answering. *lol* Sorry, but that's just plain against my religion... It's also kinda creepy *shiver* I'm inclined to believe that anything could contact you through that board, ESPECIALLY since your asking whoever... or WHATever... is out there to speak to you! ~Fairawen~

Deana	15 May 2005
I'm with Fairawan on the ouija boards. I wouldn't dial a random phone number and ask whoever answered for advice, and I wouldn't contact the spirit realm and ask whoever answered for advice.

lili	15 May 2005
Fairawen wrote: I personally consider ouija a COMPLETELY different field then tarot. Tarot is not asking unknown spirits for help. It's either asking yourself or your grand diety, in my case God. Ouija, which I've done some research on, is asking an unknown. I think this can be dangerous, considering you never know what you can get. Mark, you aren't asking your self (your soul, your inner guide, ect.) but are asking spirits (ghosts for example are a way alot of people use the ouija) for silly things. There is a major difference between asking yourself and asking something that isn't yourself, and yet is still answering. *lol* Sorry, but that's just plain against my religion... It's also kinda creepy *shiver* I'm inclined to believe that anything could contact you through that board, ESPECIALLY since your asking whoever... or WHATever... is out there to speak to you! ~Fairawen~ I agree with you, i was wondering why to combine the tarot with a quija board, it sounds kinda scarry.

Violinagin	15 May 2005
I guess someone could use a tarot board to ask themselves or higher powers questions... I can see a tarot board being much more useful than a regular oijia-board for that anyway...

wellspring	15 May 2005
I'd steer well clear of oujii boards ... as others have said too, never know what are going to get with it, and it really is a different field to tarot. I can understand why someone would have combined tarot and oujii in a way, as it could help clarify the messages, but to me oujii's just too dangerous a thing to dabble with. Knew of someone a while back who got really messed up by dabbling with one, and my own brief foray donkeys years ago was the one and only time, not something that felt good or necessary. Cat

Cerulean	15 May 2005
I was looking online because a local museum (art and science) for kids had a one day Friday the 13th exhibit on how a talking board can be moved by group energy...but I cannot find any information, as it was just a one day thing. I've seen games that touch on the talking board idea. I think people like myself who enjoy tarot and oracle cards might also be asked about children's games like the Magical Eight Ball and Ouija---in a few tarot conferences, it seems for entertainment, I've seen tarot combined with funny books or something else to answer questions...as a game. I came across a site that says the 'talking board' idea as a game and history about 1850 came out of the idea of automatic writing...shades of the old fashioned spiritualists in the U.S., elsewhere... I'm going to post a link in the divination forum as well, because I've seen this topic touched upon--perhaps if we know the source of talking board games, we can feel better about how we make decisions why or how we don't want or do want to do such things! Many adults who pick up such things for their kids might initally do so for the 'ha-ha' value, perhaps like opening a fortune cookie after eating at a Chinese restaurant... http://www.museumoftalkingboards.com/history.html Best regards, Cerulean

Cerulean	15 May 2005
I believe that someone who collected versions of the Albano Waite Rider Tarot cards had told me about 1968-69 game that had the 22 majors of that tarot and wanted a game with a 'planchette' as a collector's piece--but I don't think she wanted it for anything else but the novelty. I looked at similar board games or puzzles with tarot cards or playing cards...but I don't seem to find any fun or connection to them. Just my taste. Cerulean

The Dreamer	15 May 2005
A recent thread about people's experiences with ouija:[thread=37037]Ouija experiences[/thread]

Alta	15 May 2005
Still, this is a very unusual use for a deck of tarot cards. Well, the majors anyway. Most ouija boards have letters and numbers, and Yes and No. This one actually has tarot cards, meaning that the replies could have a much greater degree of complexity and meaning.

Chronata	15 May 2005
I think that if one uses the tarot board like an oracle randomizer...and less like a ouija board, that there is nothing scary or unusual about the process. For instance, I have a talking board that is illustrated with cards,(although playing cards...not tarot) and I use it with a pendulum with good results. I am not conversing with spirits(unless I ask to!) or anything like a ouija board...where actual words and comments are being spelled. But honestly...it's just as easy...well easier actually, to cut a deck of cards than to use the board...with about the same results.

bladeraven	15 May 2005
I'm so so scared of using ouija boards...just.....ooooooooo...too many horror movies...My younger brother and some friends one night decided to use the board...they were goofing around and really made someone pretty angry because there was this huge bang like the garage door blew up....when we later check after we stopped screaming and crying..the door was fine but it felt pretty cold on that unusually hot Texas night...lol Made me toss the Tarot deck I had then and the ouija board into the neighbor's yard....sure they loved finding all those in their yard the next morning. I came back to the deck...but I will never ever use that board again....uh uh...it's like dialing a number at random and not knowing who you're going to get...

Fairawen	15 May 2005
Bladeraven, I mirror your feelings. I fell that ouija is just far too open to be any good. People say they've had good experiences, but that good experience could easily be replaced by a bad one. After all, as others have said, you wouldn't dial a random number and ask the person how long you'll live. Sure, sometimes the person may be nice... but, then again, you may also call up some wacko who tells you your going to die soon, then comes and kills you or something.... sorry, my parents breeding was kicking in there. :P Point is this: You don't randomly go up to people's houses, knock on their doors, and ask them for advice do you? Then why do it with a board, especially when you can't even see who or what is "talking" to you. I've been to alot of Christian sites that group tarot and ouija in the same field, and I just don't think thats fair. They are much diffrent. To those of you (as some have mentioned) who use a tarot card board, I see no harm in that... just as long as the board can't send you any messages with words or whatnot. *shiver* *LOL* What's EXTREMELY ironic is that I'm in the midst of writting a story about a girl who finds her family's ouija board, and it contacts her perfectly, and because of it's influences she becomes a murderer... not that that sort of thing happens in real life. :P Sorry, just thought it was ironic. In the story I have the board taken over my a devil though. I also flaunt details that couldn't possibly happen. :) And, btw, I've already been to the Museum of Talking Boards, and have had it bookmarked since I started my story. So, yeah, I know a bit 'bout the ouija. :P ~Fairawen~

mike gorth	15 May 2005
Yes, ouija is dangerous. But I can't think how you would combine them. I mean, oracle obviously because it's like tarot and you could also use crystals (like the crystal ball) to help you because you might get extra clues but ouija could seriously alter you and stuff. NO THANK YOU!

Free Flight	15 May 2005
I am not a big fan of the ouiji board experience tarot is very personal and I believe doesn't ask wayward spirits for advice...whereas ouiji does. If I played that, I would never trust my cards again as they would scare me :)

Cerulean	15 May 2005
and it involved not only the talking board, but the main character's computer got possessed during a storm. I knew someone as a graphic designer who was hired to do a low-budget prop assignment--she doesn't remember the movie name, only the job entailed a talking board. She had to design three boards--an innocent looking one, and two others, the last being a rather 'evil' looking one. So as the 'messages' got sinister, the board was transformed. It was a ouija-style board. If you are doing a story, you might find on DVD an old film with Robin Williams called Jumanji--a spooky board game that made kids vanish and odd wild animals appear--I forgot how, but the game was hidden in a 'haunted house' and had to be finished for everything to be restored back to normal. It might be kind of boring as a family movie, but supposedly it was a good kid's book: http://www.geocities.com/amensoccer/reviews/rvjuman.html To take this back to tarot, I think I agree with others that tarot in general is different than ouiji boards or talking board games. If I were to make a board or write a story about a board or game with 22 tarot cards, I would treat it differently than ouiji. The perspectives given in tarot are more interesting to me, more open to possibilities that reflect a person's higher ideas, imagination and experience. But I'm not personally looking for such a game for myself. Just an opinion. I like Chronata's creativity and take on having a talking board with 22 majors. Cerulean

Fairawen	16 May 2005
*LOL* And now I feel old. Jumanji came out when I wasn't that old.... I'm not old, dang it.... I'M NOT OLD! *pant* Sorry. :) I know what it is, I almost went and saw it in theaters, but settled for a taped version instead. That was utterly fictious though, and was completely unrelated to "talking boards". It was supposed to be magical. Not exactly what we're talking about here, though I suppose some people could say talking boards are related to "magick" or whatnot. :) Sorry, I'm off subject... I'M NOT OLD, DANG IT!!! I just kinda threw the ouija board into my story because it posed a challenge for me as a writer. Having never used a ouija board myself, I just considered it interesting to try and write about what it would feel like. I also have to write the responses from the board in letter format: L-I-K-E-T-H-I-S-S-E-E-H-O-W-I-T-C-A-N-B-E-H-A-R-D-T-O-R-E-A-D :P Sorry. Hey! My parents should be glad to hear that most of the people involved with tarot don't like ouija, especially since most people say that tarot is like ouija.... *claps* One point for me! ~Fairawen~ ~Fairawen~

Deana	16 May 2005
Um, if we live in a world where a 16 yr old has to protest that she's "not old" maybe we are worshipping youth a bit too much. That has to be the craziest thing I've heard in ages. I wonder if my 7 yr son is stressing about wrinkles yet. Edited to add: I don't mean that as an attack on you, Fairawen. It's just a bizarre commentary about our society that everyone feels like they're "getting old" whether in the prime of their lives or, like you, just beginning life. We fear age and experience more than we fear anything else, it seems.

Kiama	16 May 2005
Personally, I see no difference between ouija boards and any other oracle, and I have used them in the past with no problems and many useful answers. For me, the key is in what thing you ask for answers. You don't have to ask spirits of 'the unknown' for your answers if you're using an ouija boards, and I have seen many people (mostly psychics) use a board whilst asking their Higher Self, Spirit Guide, or God to give them answers through it. What is it about a bit of board with letters and numbers on it that makes people think they must ask some random wandering ghost for their answers? So, I think an ouija board with Tarot on it would be very interesting... Ask your Higher Self/Spirit Guide/God and get your answer through the Ouija Tarot board. Kiama

Indigo Rose	16 May 2005
Kiama wrote: ...What is it about a bit of board with letters and numbers on it that makes people think they must ask some random wandering ghost for their answers? Kiama I think it is mindset and stories that feed the fear of Ouji boards. Most of us will not soon forget The Exorcist. Whether there is any truth to it or not remains to be seen, however humans have powerful minds. If we believe a thing is evil and go towards it anyways, our own minds can reap a destructive result. It is not that I don't believe in evil spirits, but I believe contacting them is a choice. There are people who seek evil from Tarot and every other form of divination. Personally I won't use Ouiji because I can't get past my own negative associations with it; just like the Thoth Tarot. However, I understand others don't have that difficulty. Thankfully we all have the choice. Blessings, Indigo Rose :)

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