Have you ever heard of this happening?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 28 May 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Sushi	28 May 2005
There used to be a very well known psychic where I live that gave incredibly acccurate readings. My grandmother knew her well. They were discussing reading people and people she either couldn't or wouldn't read for. One story she imparted to her was about a woman that came in for a reading that she just couldn't pick up anything on. Nothing. It was blank. The woman left the shop, went to cross the street and was hit by a bus right outside the door. Another story like this that I came across, I believe was attributed to Edgar Cayce, who saw a group of people get onto an elevator, none of whom he could pick up an aura around. The elevator crashed and they all died.

MeeWah	28 May 2005
Sushi: The story related to Edgar Cayce is correct. I have heard of such experiences but other than Cayce's, do not recall the specifics.

vernissage	29 May 2005
Very interesting. Perhaps this has something to do with fate--their deaths were already decided and so there was no point for any information to be imparted to 'readers'? Or, what I mean rather is, once your death has been 'decided', there is nothing left to 'read'? - V.

Citrin	29 May 2005
That is scary. Perhaps some events are in fact 'written in stone'?

Indigo Rose	29 May 2005
Citrin wrote: That is scary. Perhaps some events are in fact 'written in stone'? Not perhaps;for certain there are absolutes. However we have a difficult time accepting that reality. Humanity is forever trying to run from destiny.

Al Si'ra	29 May 2005
Yes; i've heard about it too esp. one i've heard just before a plane crash..Certain psychics can do that..esp. the ones who can read auras as far as i know but only (usually) when death is very very close to the querent.. Death and Birth..i believe that we decide on the timings before we are born and so yes i believe that they are written in stone..There's a life cycle we should complete and a time-period decided for that; so if we reach a point where the cycle is ending..there would be nothing left to go through so nothing is left to read..If i were a psychic i would probably have a hard time dealing with that..

Gwynne	29 May 2005
I've had people that I wouldn't read for because their very presence made me uncomfortable. One of those was arrested for child molestation two weeks later, so it made me trust my instincts about people that much more. I've had one person that I absolutely could not read. Looking in her eyes there was just nothing there. When I tried to touch her aura I had to get so close to her that I was touching skin. It was cold. However I'm not sure what happened to her as I never saw her again after that and didn't even get her name. Now that this thread has been brought up it really makes me wonder that perhaps she was so close to death that it was set. I don't think things are set in stone until a certain point where the chain of events has carried us so far that there is no turning back.

MeeWah	29 May 2005
Gwynne wrote: I've had people that I wouldn't read for because their very presence made me uncomfortable.... ...I don't think things are set in stone until a certain point where the chain of events has carried us so far that there is no turning back. Ditto here regarding refusing to read. Also where a reading not a panacea for whatever ails. One just *knows* whence to say "No". Agree with the no turning back. Any situation the culmination of those thoughts & actions of the past leading to the present. Depending on a situation mayst include those thoughts & actions of others; the interactions of one to another. The manifest in the earth plane shaped by all those things; giveth form & substance in materiality--the physical world of man. Divination serveth to provide a more wholistic view towards the understanding & the insight of the interplay of all elements combined. A snapshot of the present with reference to the past & the possibilities inherent.

Lillie	29 May 2005
I don't know if this is the sameelevator story or just a similar one. A person was going to get into a lift, but when it came he realised that the people waiting with him had no aruas or were surrounded by black auras (or something like that) Anyhow, because of this he did not get in, and of course the lift plummeted to the ground killing everyone. The point is that that person could and did change their fate. If he had not seen/noticed the auras he would have died too. Therefore the others could (in principal) have changed their fate too. Mind you, I thought it was impossible for lifts to do that. I thought there was supposed to be some saftey thing that stopped the plummeting from happening. Also, apparently, planes that crash have statistically less passengers than ones that don't. They have more last minute cancellations, no shows etc. So, it appears that conciously or unconciously a fair few people pick up these psychic warnings and change their fates. Moral of the story, trust your instincts.

bluebetween	29 May 2005
hmn.... I wonder.... if the fact that he couldn't see auras was just his warning not to get on the elevator - not that they didn't in fact have them - just that he was blocked from seeing them to save his own life. Too bad he didn't try to save the rest of them by diverting them somehow or something. And the woman who got hit by a car - if she had not been refused the reading, she would have still been inside when that car went by and not rushing out in a huff for being refused a reading - perhaps angry and not paying attention. Who knows - it's all a long chain of events - seems to me there are many people who can change the course of events - not just ourselves. The woman who we go to for reiki and chakra clearing can see people's energy and auras but said one time when she was on vacation in florida she couldn't see anyone's aura - that she guessed it was the location blocking it... I think maybe it was just a gift so she could enjoy her vacation more... I imagine that disney world is crazy enough without adding in everyone's swirling energies and passed over loved ones ;)

CelticAngel	29 May 2005
Things like that can happen, but it depends on the psychic themselves. I myself, have dreams of those who will soon die, or who might die if not saved. I can help them, if it is in my power to, but I try either way. Psychics that do not pick up on that bad aura or haunting pain around those people are not fully connected to them. Me, I might pick up on that, and I might not. There are psychics who would feel it, and those who simply cant. Like I said, its all a matter of power.

Free Flight	29 May 2005
This is a really interesting thread. I know an old lady (psychic medium) who I saw a few months back. I called her a month ago and asked for a reading for my mum and she refused and said she couldn't. then a friend of a friend called last week and was refused for same reason as my mum.... But as far as I have heard she is still doing readings for other people Will be interesting to see if there is anything in this for this lady or if it was something else. I have never heard of this before so thanks for sharing :)

Asenath	29 May 2005
I'd heard a similar story to the lady and the car, except it was two sisters who went in for tea leaf readings. The psychic looked at the first sister's cup and put it down then proceeded to do a reading for the second sister. After the reading the first sister wanted to know why she didn't get a reading and the psychic told her that it was because she had no future...when they go outside the future-less sister was hit by a car... Urban legend? Maybe, but I am a beliver in not asking a question unless you're prepared for an answer. I'm too much of a chicken to have my fortune read. As for the elevator story, maybe their fates were fixed, so they wouldn't have gotten out of the elevator. I could have been possible that someone in there could have had some sort of "sick" or "damaged" aura (sorry, I know nothing about auras) that could have indicated that they would have been injured or survived the plummet???

HudsonGray	29 May 2005
A friend of mine taught tarot classes back around the early 1980's and was good at reading auras also. I remember meeting her for lunch right after the space shuttle blew up at launch (the one with Sally Ride, the school teacher), she said she'd watched the astronauts go onto the elevator to the nose cone to board, and none of them had auras, and because of that she knew something bad was going to happen to them. I don't think she was making it up, that's not the kind of person she was--and she was as shaken as the rest of us that night, after hearing the news & seeing the video on tv.

SphinYote	29 May 2005
Lillie wrote: ....Also, apparently, planes that crash have statistically less passengers than ones that don't. They have more last minute cancellations, no shows etc. So, it appears that conciously or unconciously a fair few people pick up these psychic warnings and change their fates. Moral of the story, trust your instincts. I always thought it was...interesting...that none of the planes from Sept. 11 were more than a quarter full.

Emeraldgirl	30 May 2005
SphinYote wrote: I always thought it was...interesting...that none of the planes from Sept. 11 were more than a quarter full. I didn't know that it is very interesting. There are also heaps of stories of people who normally would have been at the World Trade Centre for work or other reasons (like getting coffee from the favourite vendor etc) who missed their trains/slept in/ decided to walk to work another way and therefore avoided the area that morning. I think that it is entirely possible thaqt a person who was "doomed" so to speak would not be able to be read for.

RufusJ	30 May 2005
A year or so ago, several cars from a passing train fell off the track onto an office building here. It was right after everyone -- about 8 people-- was due to be there and yet something happened to prevent every person who worked there from being in the building at that time. One overslept, one was sick, another was held up by a child running late to school.... I think one had actually walked out of the building right before it happened. Makes you think.... rufusj

jumptothemoonyea	30 May 2005
Does it mean that the Spirit/self knows when physical body will die and getting ready for the journey, partially leaves the body and connection becomes vague and when reader or an observer tunes into person who's spirit is partially left, the reader cannot feel the spark of the spirit as they do not read physical body (a shell) but astral and spiritual?

jumptothemoonyea	30 May 2005
ahhh..., just remembered....somewhat related to the topic of this thread, in my old thread [thread=34223]reading for a clone[/thread] I was looking for an answer if it is possible to read for a clone, since there is opinion that clones will not have a spirit, only physical body, as well as people partially or completely artificially generated. Poor fellows, they would not be able to have a reading :D

Nevada	30 May 2005
Citrin wrote: That is scary. Perhaps some events are in fact 'written in stone'? I've heard a theory, I think it was Sylvia Browne, that said you have certain windows in your life when depending on other circumstances it may be your time to go. And when it's your time, of course, you go. I think she related this during a talk (I have on tape) about angels intervening and saving people at times of crisis--you know, when the car is totalled and you have no idea how anyone survived it, but they walked away. That may have been one of those windows, but in that case they needed to stay around a while longer. Nevada

Nevada	30 May 2005
SphinYote wrote: I always thought it was...interesting...that none of the planes from Sept. 11 were more than a quarter full. That is interesting. I didn't know this. I used to fly cross continent periodically, and very rarely was one of those flights less than fully packed. Nevada

tmgrl2	30 May 2005
I believe these things happen... I meet people I want nothing to do with...don't want to bother to get to know them...someting right off is wrong. Nothing this dramatic for me...but Last week I saw my dentist and when he turned around, it's as if a grinning death mask was on surface just beneath his skin. I had a very bad feeling about him. As he worked on me, he told me he had been trying to lose weight and had lost 25 pounds...he's short, so that's a lot... His son got married this weekend. All weekend this image came and went and I kept hoping it didn't mean that something terrible was to happen to him soon... I've heard the Cayce story, too. terri

The Have you ever heard of this happening? thread was originally posted on 28 May 2005 in the Talking Tarot board, and is now archived in the Forum Library. Read the active threads in Talking Tarot, or read more archived threads.