Recurring Card-The Empress

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 14 May 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

bladeraven	14 May 2005
Okay...in readings I've had..the empress has popped up quite a bit and just received some insight regarding SO and seems his cards add up to the Empress...first mind burp I got at this was a thought...Is this an indication that we have a chance to get the family we want..be it together or individually if we step up to the plate?

TarotGirlJess	14 May 2005
THe Empress can also represent a smothering female a mother or mother in law. This recently showed up in a reading i did in a problem spot... turns out the querant was having problems with her potential mother in law. Is there someone in hubby's life that is forcing there opinions on him?

bladeraven	14 May 2005
TarotGirlJess wrote: THe Empress can also represent a smothering female a mother or mother in law. This recently showed up in a reading i did in a problem spot... turns out the querant was having problems with her potential mother in law. Is there someone in hubby's life that is forcing there opinions on him? I did a reading for him some time ago: 1. Death 2. ten of wands reversed 3. Seven of Swords It makes me wonder...both serious and joking...could it be me??? I know his mom is pretty overbearing at times...can't think of any other female at the moment...but right now I'm in there predominately

TarotGirlJess	14 May 2005
it may be you .. are you trying to push your choices on him, clothing, foods, curfew (lol).. trying to control him a bit much? it could be you trying agressivly change him for the better as well. are you nagging him?

bladeraven	14 May 2005
TarotGirlJess wrote: it may be you .. are you trying to push your choices on him, clothing, foods, curfew (lol).. trying to control him a bit much? it could be you trying agressivly change him for the better as well. are you nagging him? Realistically....and trying to be as truthful as I can about myself with him..I have been pushing him about finding an apartment..the move is 13 days away and there is still no apartment and we are due to move from this apartment by then or have to pay another months rent plus more....there's that and the fact that I not only need a forwarding address...but he was wanting me to drive out there...originally he was going to fly down but chanegd his mind...this really aggravates me since I have the little one to take care of and beign ont he 2nd floor...no way I could feasible move the furniture out or do some of this on my own... I can understand procastination...heavens..I need to pack and I still haven't accomplished that much but I still have no idea where I'm moving to and I've already gotten a call about a job in California...however...they don't want to talk to me until I'm there...and question if I had a physical address out there....He's been out there 8 weeks and still hasn't looked for an apartment and always finding one excuse after another...and been non-commital...at one point he called me at 2:30 my time, in the morning and said he was just going to quit and come back here...after knowing I had quit my job to move out there... I wonder if he is scared....scared at the fact of the amount of commitment this is going to take and require or am I reaching the point of being the dreaded well...female word...

Cascade	14 May 2005
Maybe the Empress is telling you to be more like a nurturing mother. When he calls you up 2:30 your time is his bedtime. Think the nine of swords. High school kids always need money(heck, if you told mike gorth you'd give him a crystal ball, he'd help you move) so someone can carry furniture. Maybe he's worried whatever apt he picks won't be good enough for you. Tell him it's ok to be scared, you'll be out there soon and lighten his load too. 10Wr. They have motels that rent by the week, till you find your own apt, if need be. Look for the Long Beach papers on line and look at the ads. Tell him what you've found and have him go see it. The Empress is Divine Mother,'member. If it keeps recurring, you need to adopt her attitudes. IMOH :) oh, I just read this and It must be the Italian grandmother coming out in me. didn't mean to sound so brusque. Sorry

bladeraven	14 May 2005
lol..not the least bit....thank you so much for helping me gain more understanding...

Emily	15 May 2005
Hi Bladeraven, Moving times are always more stressful if you find you're having to do it all on your own. Do you have family to help? Have you started to move your smaller stuff into packing cases or tea chests ready for the move? Is some of your furniture going into storage. If you do drive out there, make sure you have a plan of attack, the route, stopping places along the way. I think Cascade makes some good points - but I think your SO is just as worried about this move as you are. Hope it all works out for you. :)

bladeraven	15 May 2005
Emily wrote: Hi Bladeraven, Moving times are always more stressful if you find you're having to do it all on your own. Do you have family to help? Have you started to move your smaller stuff into packing cases or tea chests ready for the move? Is some of your furniture going into storage. If you do drive out there, make sure you have a plan of attack, the route, stopping places along the way. I think Cascade makes some good points - but I think your SO is just as worried about this move as you are. Hope it all works out for you. :) No family or friends so it's pretty much here..I went and gave most of the furniture away that wasn't collapsible (we have a Japanese bed so that's easy to move)...I found a hotel to stop at but SO went from I'll help you out to completley withdrawing right now...basically he wants me to pay for everything....so we're starting to have some mighty arguments these days. I'm really questioning the fact that he hasn't found us a place to live and it's now....12 days till the move.

TarotGirlJess	15 May 2005
as long as it isn't a different girl in relation with him that is pregnant.. Is that a possibility? that would expplain why it's on his mind and in his cards but not yours. I hope not and it's probably nothing.. he probably is just thinking you nag him or sometyhing... LOL

bladeraven	15 May 2005
TarotGirlJess wrote: as long as it isn't a different girl in relation with him that is pregnant.. Is that a possibility? that would expplain why it's on his mind and in his cards but not yours. I hope not and it's probably nothing.. he probably is just thinking you nag him or sometyhing... LOL hmmm..that would make sense..and food for thought...he says his sister is "pregnant" but there use to be a lot of sisters.

Cascade	15 May 2005
Bladeraven, Be at peace and see a clear pattern and plan running through your life. Nothing is by chance. If you knew that you had to move to LB to eventually place your son in a position to fulfull his future,would you be so scared? If your SO was the catalyst that got you to California where opportunities were beyond your wildest, but they didn't include him, would you still go? Looking back, you know the universe has been there before,why wouldn't she be now? Ha, You're the 9 of swords! Remember, though, as you step off the cliff, it's the baby in the backpack.:) Love and Blessings

bladeraven	15 May 2005
Cascade wrote: Bladeraven, Be at peace and see a clear pattern and plan running through your life. Nothing is by chance. If you knew that you had to move to LB to eventually place your son in a position to fulfull his future,would you be so scared? If your SO was the catalyst that got you to California where opportunities were beyond your wildest, but they didn't include him, would you still go? Looking back, you know the universe has been there before,why wouldn't she be now? Ha, You're the 9 of swords! Remember, though, as you step off the cliff, it's the baby in the backpack.:) Love and Blessings *nod*....that's actually something I find myself even in my dreams confronting...just being a scared animal hiding...it's oooooooooo...a lot ..lol

Emily	15 May 2005
Have you thought about searching out apartments online? I did a project once where I had to find out layouts of New York apartments - I found all of them online. But was also finding out how much there were to rent too. If you put Orange County (is OC Orange County?) California, Apartments into a search engine like google you never know what might come up. :)

bladeraven	15 May 2005
*nod* I have and sent him a list to go look at them since he is there (I'm in Texas) and needless to say...after a month...he has yet to do anything...and then gets upset I found an apartment here under 4 hours and told him..if he is going to act like that..I'm just staying here.

Ace	15 May 2005
bladeraven wrote: *nod* I have and sent him a list to go look at them since he is there (I'm in Texas) and needless to say...after a month...he has yet to do anything...and then gets upset I found an apartment here under 4 hours and told him..if he is going to act like that..I'm just staying here. I think that is a good idea. YOU are being (in his mind) an overbearing female SO just relax. He is playing passive aggressive and if you push him, he will either not find a place, or find a place that he will insist is no good and say it is your fault, you rushed him or make you find a place he will insist is no good. If it were me, I would do this: Tell him I will wait, but if he doesn't find an apartment by a certain day, I will pay the rent plus and stay put-and then I can't move until such and such a date in the future. Then I wouldn't even make moving plans until he comes up with a place to stay in OC, CA. Don't say it, but the delay then is HIS fault. Then just wait. If he doesn't do anything, follow through. And be glad you didn't go! Would a reading help? I am offering. Ace

bladeraven	15 May 2005
Ace wrote: I think that is a good idea. YOU are being (in his mind) an overbearing female SO just relax. He is playing passive aggressive and if you push him, he will either not find a place, or find a place that he will insist is no good and say it is your fault, you rushed him or make you find a place he will insist is no good. If it were me, I would do this: Tell him I will wait, but if he doesn't find an apartment by a certain day, I will pay the rent plus and stay put-and then I can't move until such and such a date in the future. Then I wouldn't even make moving plans until he comes up with a place to stay in OC, CA. Don't say it, but the delay then is HIS fault. Then just wait. If he doesn't do anything, follow through. And be glad you didn't go! Would a reading help? I am offering. Ace *nod* it's one of the reasons I found an apt here...and let him know I did...I'm not just going to be a blind dimwit and just blindly wait...If he can't find something...at least I can take care of me and the little one...

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