determining physical appearance
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 13 Jun 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| Flidais |
13 Jun 2005 |
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I was wondering how other readers would respond to a request such as "How will my soulmate look?" The querent wants a physical description.
I am curious to know if anyone can suggest a method that seems to work for a question like this?
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| light2000 |
13 Jun 2005 |
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Hi!!
You can do a linear spread whith that question.
You can put a position on your own spread whith that matter.
I see this at my spread. I only use that when the querent ask. But if you want that why dont you try to use 3 cards?
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| Flidais |
13 Jun 2005 |
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I know how to create a spread, but my problem is that I don't know how to determine physical appearance from the cards.
I read one thread that mentioned using the description of the person shown on the card that is drawn, but someone else disagreed with that. Certainly that would be limiting, as very few of my decks show people of racial background other than white. How do you look at a card and say what someone will look like?
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| light2000 |
13 Jun 2005 |
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well Flidais, every card talk about psysical appearence. So you must know every details from the card.
See:i only will write some aspects.
The fool: Tall, thin, bright eyes, exentric clothes, whith a lot of magnetism
The magician:thin, small eyes and ears, brown hair
The high priestess: not to tall, a litle fat, palid face, big breast,
The empress: a litle tall, beatifull, hands and fingers lengths, small breast, large hips,
And so on, so every card have one psysical apearence, if you put 3 cards togehter give some aspects of the apearence.
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| Flidais |
13 Jun 2005 |
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I see what you are saying, although it might be a bit harder with some of the pip cards... I will practice a bit with various cards before I try to do the reading. In the past, I would have simply told the querent I don't use the cards that way, but I have been thinking that I need to expand my horizons. :)
Thank you for your help, light2000!
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| WalesWoman |
14 Jun 2005 |
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Someone might throw a book at me, for suggesting you look at the book that came with your deck (if one did), often times the court cards suggest body build, coloring, dark, light, ruddy, fair, hair color and eye color as well as the astrological correspondences, so you might have an idea of what sign they are as well.
But this isn't always the case, I know lots of Wands folk that have dark complextions, hair and eyes and are total fire, just as some of the Swords types I know have reddish blonde hair and blue eyes, but personality wise are absolutely Air signs. Yet one Air sign in particular is much more flammboyant than me with all my Fire ever dreamed of being.
I don't know if Earth would be people of earthier coloring, I tend to go more toward personality than appearance. Tis most confusing for me, so I avoid the confusion as much as I can.
So as with most things, Tarot types are more of a guideline than a fixed trait to look for. Don't get caught up in a stereotype trap.
But here is a chart with the physical appearances of the different suites:
http://www.tryskelion.com/paradox.htm
You have to keep scrolling on this page, but it's got some great descriptions for the cards and personalities that go with them.
http://billheidrick.com/works/tarotdiv.htm
This is good for timing or figuring possible astrological signs and general meanings/traits
http://www.supertarot.co.uk/astro/timing.htm
http://www.supertarot.co.uk/lessons/02major.htm
Also http://www.learntarot.com/course.htm
Look at the card meanings and the charts... it's really excellent for getting more ideas of what a person might be like.
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| vernissage |
14 Jun 2005 |
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Wow, WalesWoman, very interesting links! Thank you for those.
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| Fudugazi |
14 Jun 2005 |
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All these methods only work for caucasians, unless you have a deck with different-coloured characters. I live in a multi-cultural world, the Empress can be a tall black mama, and the King of Cups a romantic honey-coloured Indio. Both will have dark hair and black eyes and no pallid skin in view.
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| Sulis |
14 Jun 2005 |
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All these methods only work for caucasians, unless you have a deck with different-coloured characters. I live in a multi-cultural world, the Empress can be a tall black mama, and the King of Cups a romantic honey-coloured Indio. Both will have dark hair and black eyes and no pallid skin in view.
I completely agree with Helvetica - I also think that there are some questions that the tarot alone can't answer - maybe if the reader is psychic then these questions could be answered but in my opinion, not with tarot alone.
Love
Sulis xx
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| Flidais |
14 Jun 2005 |
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All these methods only work for caucasians, unless you have a deck with different-coloured characters. I live in a multi-cultural world, the Empress can be a tall black mama, and the King of Cups a romantic honey-coloured Indio. Both will have dark hair and black eyes and no pallid skin in view.
That is what I was trying to get at in my second post, when I said "Certainly that would be limiting, as very few of my decks show people of racial background other than white." I do have some decks that are multi-racial (Ancestral Path, for example), and perhaps I could use that deck for a question like this.
Sulis, I suspected this could not be done merely with Tarot, and I appreciate your comments. I am not psychic.
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| Lady Mary |
14 Jun 2005 |
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The high priestess: not to tall, a litle fat, palid face, big breast,
This is really a great description - it did make me smile, and I've been in a rather dark mood since I got up in the morning. :) :) :)
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| mingbop |
14 Jun 2005 |
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you can only get an idea of the type of person, not the actual physical desciption--if only life was so easy eh !!
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| light2000 |
14 Jun 2005 |
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This is really a great description - it did make me smile, and I've been in a rather dark mood since I got up in the morning. :) :) :)
Why this maked you smile?
mingbop- Of course the tarot is more especific to psycilogic type of person but if you want it can give you some types of body appearence too.
I ussualy use 3 cards to know a person appearence, and so far it gives a good and acurrante idea of a person body.
I know a person ( i dont know how he do it) that use the tarot for know a persons name.
And so far he never wrong whith me. He actluatly said the name of a person that will give me troubles and is true. A person whith the name that he predict give me problems.
But he is very good at tarot, he study a lot, and he is the only one that i saw doing this so far.
So tarot can gives us a lot of ideas about everthing, it depends of the person how read it.
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| Flidais |
14 Jun 2005 |
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The high priestess: not to tall, a litle fat, palid face, big breast...
But what would you say if you drew this card when a female querent was specifically asking what her future "husband" would look like?
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| Fudugazi |
14 Jun 2005 |
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But what would you say if you drew this card when a female querent was specifically asking what her future "husband" would look like? Not too tall, a little fat, pallid face, big **** ;)
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| OakDragon |
14 Jun 2005 |
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Not too tall, a little fat, pallid face, big **** ;)
big Thoth? ;) })
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| Fudugazi |
14 Jun 2005 |
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big Thoth? ;) }) That's the word, very male High Priestess, don't you think? :P
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| Flidais |
14 Jun 2005 |
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I think I will refrain from doing this type of reading. :)
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| dadsnook2000 |
14 Jun 2005 |
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I would suggest a three card spread, letting the querent pull the cards from the spread out deck.
** The FIRST card will represent the physique or body build. Whatever figure or group is in the card will give you an idea to build on. High activity equals slim build, sitting indicates a heavy build, etc.
** The SECOND card will represent the person's appearance. Fighting equals tenseness and focused demeanor. Waiting equals calmness. Active suggests lots of smiles and a pleasant appearance. Faces of the card-figures can suggest lightness, darkness of features.
** The THIRD card can indicate the personality and manner of relating with the querent.
Note that this approach doesn't try to describe the actual coloration and the features of this presumed-to-show-up person. You can set the rules and the expectations. Or you can add additional cards and assign them meanings that fit what you are trying to do. Good luck. Dave.
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| Flidais |
14 Jun 2005 |
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Note that this approach doesn't try to describe the actual coloration and the features of this presumed-to-show-up person. You can set the rules and the expectations. Or you can add additional cards and assign them meanings that fit what you are trying to do. Good luck. Dave.
Perhaps this would work for me. Thank you for the suggestion!
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| Kiama |
15 Jun 2005 |
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I'm not sure it's a good idea to ask for specific physical looks...
I mean, how practical is it?
You bump into some very nice guy in a club, and he's just about to buy you a drink when you grab him by the shoulders, order him to stand still, whilst you try to discern the colour of his eyes to ascertain if he's the guy that Tarot reader fortold would be your soul mate. And then you've gotta ask him if that's his natural hair colour...!
And because many people live in urban/suburban areas, they may meet many people who have the same physical features.
And even further against this... I really doubt it's a good idea to go on the look out for a soulmate based on their looks. There may be a tendency to ignore anybody else - who may actually turn out to be 'the one', or at least a bit of good fun/friend whilst you're waiting.
Kiama *Acting like a grumpy old man*
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| Flidais |
15 Jun 2005 |
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I'm not sure it's a good idea to ask for specific physical looks...
I mean, how practical is it? ---- And even further against this... I really doubt it's a good idea to go on the look out for a soulmate based on their looks. There may be a tendency to ignore anybody else - who may actually turn out to be 'the one', or at least a bit of good fun/friend whilst you're waiting. Kiama *Acting like a grumpy old man*
You don't have to convince me of this, Kiama! I agree 100% with you. But this is a question I have received from more than one querent. If you were asked this question, what would you say to them?
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| Flidais |
15 Jun 2005 |
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hey i cant understand this at all.please explain this to me with some example,plzz http://www.supertarot.co.uk/astro/timing.htm ankita
Here is one example. Let's say you ask a question about "when" something will happen. You draw one card -- the Queen of Wands. Look at the chart. Queen of Wands is in the red block. Over on the right you will see that three decanates line up with that red block containing "Queen of Wands." They are:
20-30 Pisces..........Mar 11- Mar 20
0-10 Aries............. Mar 21- Mar 30
10-20 Aries........... Mar 31- Apr 10
You don't have to understand "decanate" really, just look at the dates. According to this chart, the Queen of Wands indicates a time frame between March 11 and April 10.
Does that help at all?
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| Kiama |
16 Jun 2005 |
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You don't have to convince me of this, Kiama! I agree 100% with you. But this is a question I have received from more than one querent. If you were asked this question, what would you say to them?
LOL - Pretty much what I wrote above, but in nicer words! I would probably offer to do a reading about the best person for them (I don't believe in soul-mates), which would focus on the type of person they would be better off with - personality-wise.
Kiama
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| psychic sue |
17 Jun 2005 |
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I always find physical appearance a hard one. Sometimes I get a "flash" and briefly get an idea, but most of the time my cards tell me about character rather than appearance. I don't really go with the traditional aspects of the court cards, I think they are a bit limiting.
Sue x
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