Tarot only telling about NOW?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 09 Jun 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Al Si'ra	09 Jun 2005
Hi!! I've noticed sth about my readings and i wonder if anyone has ever experienced the same thing.. I know that there are some readers who ask a question only once then never ask the same question for a specific amount of time such as a month or so...But i do not follow this pattern when i ask about certain situations for example when sth is vague and not clear-i mean the situation- i do readings every three days or so to check how the situation's developing-i believe that the future is not set in stone-that it is shaped every second-so i also think that the readings also COULD change any second..so it would be useful to check it from time to time.. For ex i kept pulling 7 of pents;Hanged Man;Moon;2 of Swords;2 of wands as you can see allt he cards indicate that there's some sort of decision that has to be made that the outcome is not clear..Then suddenly-overnight-i began to pull very clear cards indicating only one direction about the situation- now i can clearly see that the situation is solid.I wonder why i did not see that things would head this way in the end..the cards did not tell me anything about it..so my observation is i think the cards are only telling about now and nothing more whenever they find it necessary..and do they sometimes tell about the FAR future also?I never ask about the far future or answer my friend's questions concerning the far future, so i do not have any opinions about it..But i also sometimes think that tarot has a mind of its own; you may ask sth and it may answer another thing..That happens a lot to me..And now i wonder why it only tells me about the present situation or very very near future.. Has Tarot ever told you the Far future or is it nearly impossible since the future changes every second?

closrapexa	09 Jun 2005
Obvioulsy you cannot pulla reading every second, since that would be an impossibility. However, it is also not a good idea to pull cards too often, since A. You may be at times confused by what they may tell you, and any rate, if they are unclear, then there is a reason. The cards may tell us what is happening, or what should be happening. What will happen, or what should or should not. An enigmatic reading does not always mean that you are at fault or the reading is, but it may mean that it is as yet undecided. There are those who do spreads with a question, showing the options, pros or cons, and the final outcome. Even that "final" outcome can change, and seeks to write in stone that which is written on air, or not at all. B. This causes a situation where you become too dependant on the cards, and seek to find the ultimate answers from them. In my opinion, it makes no sense to draw on cards when making a decision, then, when thy show you the options, drawing more to find out what decision you are going to make. If the cards give you things to think about, or homework, as it were, take what they give you and ponder it. Forcing an answer from the cards takes from you the responsibility and priviledge of making your own choices in life.

Al Si'ra	09 Jun 2005
I understand where you're coming from; and i do agree with you,i don't re-ask the same question over and over again but in same cases i find it very useful .. Think about it as checking the patient and see how she's doing lately; a patient's status can change anytime but if i would ask is she going to die? or get well?or What will be the outcome? all the time,then that would be really useless as you say and that would mean forcing the cards for me too i understand and i do agree...and even one single thought can affect the whole life so i don't see anything wrong with checking the present-situation- it's more or less like a daily-weekly reading- but it's not about your day- it's about some hidden things-some kind of evolution...and as i said you cannot use this method for every problem arising in your life..but some undecided-situations WILL one way or another be decided and till this happens it's really much fun and useful to watch the evolution with your own eyes-you know what i mean? I can't make myself clear about this.. And it's not about making a decision i think i couldn't make myself clear..i never consult the tarot when i have to make a decision; i just make it and see the results myself,i actually do not consult tarot when i need to learn more about myself or i dont let tarot decide my actions that's a different thing and that would totally be against my motto "trust in universe" i let the whole universe help me,all the forces,not only my fellow cards lol :),it's just a tool helping me develop my foresight and psychic gifts,so i don't lend my power to tarot-that would stop me from improving-but by the way i'm really loving the cards and try to learn their meanings there are great readers here-and i dont usually ask "what should i do?"kind of questions; i consult tarot whenever the situation is out of my control whenever there are external-internal sources mostly hidden sources affecting the situation ; just to shed light into those shadowy parts; that's what i mean by checking the patient; analysing which energies are/were/will be in process..and sometimes i do relationship spreads for friends...and that's basicly it. And i observed that my cards ALWAYS tell me or let me see which energies are in process NOW;and will be in process very soon; but i wonder if it has ever helped anyone see the far future?

closrapexa	09 Jun 2005
There were times when I had predicted events in the future, yes. Those events were usually of the kind over which the person I was reading for had no control over them, such as break-ups or something like that.

HudsonGray	09 Jun 2005
Most of what I pick up from my readings is what's in the process now, to maybe 2 weeks or so. But for pet readings it's always in the immediate 'this second'! It's all immediate gratification for them, they don't look for long term, what I get there is a 'right this minute' reading, which can be frustrating unless I phrase the question to incorporate the human idea of time.

Free Flight	09 Jun 2005
Hi Al Si'ra Is an interesting point you make. I have not been reading for long...As I am opening up to the entire reading process I am ever so slowly discovering I am seeing more and more future events... At first it troubled me that I really only pick up present and past events...Lately I am slowly getting little things in the future but they are few and far between...however ever so slowly the accuracy seems to be increasing...but as others says this is only the very near future not too far ahead... I am not rushing it and just let what will come, this skill of reading develops slowly as intuition opens and blossoms. Equally though as you say the future is entirely malleable and not set in stone. It is therefore nigh to impossible to read with any decided results. Future possibilities may present themselves...but they are that only possibilities x FF

Al Si'ra	10 Jun 2005
Thanx guys for all your input... So i see that actually we get to predict mostly; at most,up to 2 weeks..of course i don't mean to say that the readers who claim to be predicting beyond that timeframe are liars LOL... Afterall it's all about the intuition and foresight..It can be done and i know some readers or psychics just doing that-and amaze you; but the average is a month or so.. But when the STAR card appears it can indicate that the things will appear some time in the future..so it might also depend on the interpretation of the cards.. But again as i said before; a reading can totally change within a week and that i also find very interesting..but i am sure of one thing: tarot never fails in accuracy of telling the present moment!!

light2000	10 Jun 2005
Hi Al Si'ra !! I dont belive much at prediction fro more than two years. But actually, i did a lot of readings for 2 years and they all was very accurante.I saw that the majotaty of the people say that belive on prediction for 2 weeks maximum. I only am writing what hapen to me. Actuatly i dont like read for more than 1 year, but all the predictions that i had done for 2 years happened. I think that happened because maybe the person that i had done the reading didnt change inside a lot. I will write the most interessting reading that i had so far. I ahve a good friend, but at that time wasnt. She asked me if i could do a reading for her, because she heard that i read the tarot. I saied yes So she was confused whith her love life. She is a beautifull women and she couldnt decide who the men was better to have a relashionship (she was confused whith 2 guys). I read and saied, the men that you will have a relashionship isnt anyone of these. Itīs young men, more younger than you. You know him, like a friend. You will have problems whith friends or family because of this relashionship (6 months maximum). So you will live together. And you will have a young boy. She stayed crazy and happy, but tought that was all lies. Than i saw that a girl of her family was pregnant and she must go to the doctor because there are some kind of problem whith the baby. And a older woman whith a lot of respect was sick and the disease is serious. Actualty her sisters found out (2 weeks later)that she was pregnant and the baby was at a wrong position, but whith medical care all went fine. her grandmother stayed sick and died ( 8 moths). And she started to have a relashionship whith a friend. He was younger than her, and her father didnt like this relashionship. So she abandoned hehouse and went living whith her boyfriend(more or less 2 moths). She had problems whith her friends too. She married (an half year later) and she had a beatifull son ( he haves 5 years now). The bad news is now they brooke up (since january) and it seems that they wont be togehter again. we became a close friends, and when we see she always talk about the reading that i had done. The reading was about 7 years now, so the last thing that i saw for her was her son, so the prediction was about 2 years. I have more similar cases but this was the most interessting one.

Al Si'ra	10 Jun 2005
Thanx Light2000!! I loved reading your experience;those kinds of things always amaze me and inspire me to do more readings every day.. So that was what i was trying to say; these things happen; though not with me maybe not yet; and i was wondering if anyone had a real experience and i now see that YES!! But again i think it's a a lot about the intuition as well; if i were the one to do that reading you did; maybe i would have interpreted it in such a way that it would indeed make sense and be accurate but the time-frame would be again a month or so..So now i sort of think that it may be due to the interpretation the way of seeing the cards?I believe that there are no wrong cards but wrong interpretations... I am new at developing my foresight (6 yrs LOL) thus maybe my foresight is limited up to a month for now LOL... I also observed sth with you...You have a very interesting and amazing way of interpreting the cards and i do see that you always take a different approach when interpreting the reading overall i also think that you have developed a deep intuition!!...So again that might be what the difference is..i refuse to see the far future so even if the cards are telling me about it i do not and cannot interpret it in such a way; i refuse to believe that the future is set in stone so i do not really see some things which will take place 2 years from now..Maybe limiting myself here with the reality i create for myself..I'll practice more with a new perspective..and start maybe asking about the future? and record the answers and see if they are going to come true? For ex: I also believe that there some things meant to be..maybe i should ask about them..and see what comes up.

Al Si'ra	10 Jun 2005
Hi HudsonGray!! The thing you've mentioned about the pets :) Yes indeed it's true; yesterday i did a reading for "how is my pet doing lately?" and the answer was indeed about that moment..At that moment my dog was playing with her teddy LOL and the cards told me that she's very happy yet she does not want to let go of her teddy and will do anything to keep it right now(4 of pents)!! I laughed so hard..it's very cute!!

light2000	10 Jun 2005
hi again. This will be dificult to explain at english but i will try. At my readings here i ussualy have a lot of more things to say but i dont have the words to be understanding so i dont write them. I only write here what i think that people will understand (because of my lack of vocabulary). You said that i use a lot my intuition and is a lot truth, but here at the forum, i dont use at all. You said that i dont give always the same meaning to the cards, but you are wrong. I always give the same meaning but i pay a lot of atention at the encircle cards. The encircle cards or surronding cards (i think that is bad write) change or detail the meaning of the card that iīm reading. I never read a isolate card. At every card i take a look at the surronding ones. To be honest when i did this reading i wasnt pretty good at the tarot. I have a lot of give up tarot at my life. And this reading was done at a time like this. So if i see the sun at one point that talk about love, i will see all the cards. Imagine if the hermit is at a position that talk about the personality, it means tha person is alone, right? And then the sun at love, new love is coming, but the streght is at the sexual position so itīs a baby boy that is coming. If isnt the sun and itīs the moon isntead so itīs a baby girl is coming. Of course that i see the position of the lover one too, and it can change the prediction. And so on. I will explain better: I see the tarot like an alphabet, there are cards that are the letters, right? I see all the cards at same position and make a word. Than i see all the cards and i do a sentence. You understand? About how i had started, i started to see for two years, the smallest ones was for 6 months, and i have lot of dificultys to read for 2 weeks. Maybe because i dindt pratice that type of reading. I think like you had said that we make our own destiny, but if we continue for one path, actuatly tarot can predict what will hapen. I have a lot of cases similar like that one that i wrote. If you have any question you can ask me, i dont mind. oh, one thing that iīve dificulty is see the health. I see if the person is good or if will have a disease but i have dificulty to see each one. The only things that i can say at this subject is when the disease is stress, psycologic, depression, pains on the bones ( i dont know the word), or feminine problems. But at the moment iīm trying to improve this subject. The spead that you use is very important too. I use a spread that i know very well,and i have a method of counting houses. So if i want to see the future i count. At my spread the money is at the 2 house, the work at the 6 and the social position at 10. This way is the present. But if i start to read from the 10 house(this became the 1 house), so the 11 house is the money, the 4 is work and the 9 is the social position. And this is the future. My spread have 12 houses ( i think you call it horoscope spread), and i use 36 cards. For see the past i use the counting mehtod too, but i count back to front. At the same reading i can talk about sisters or brothers life, the partener, the parents and friends. All whith the same cards. Of course i studed this spread a lot. t the begining was dificult, but when i finaly learned was simple amazing. Of course i dont use at the forum, because is very long. I only use a diferent spread if is only one question.

zoso	10 Jun 2005
Al sira - I think that when dealing with emotions, you have to keep checking on the situation. For instance, questions like "How is she doing, how is she feeling, how does she feel about me?" All those need to be done in segments to see how the feelings develop. Since, emotions are very fluid and changeable, the kind of readings you're talking about would be necessary. Plus, when you do them over and over during a period of time (not one right after the other, but a few days to weeks in between) then certain cards will keep popping up and how the situation is developing will become more clear. I don't think it becomes confusing or too much, I think it makes everything more understandable.

Al Si'ra	10 Jun 2005
Hmm I know the horoscope reading i've done it for myself in the past and it's much easier to see some cards in some spreads..and i understand your method thanx for explaining it better...so i guess one should really know all the aspects of cards in order to link them with the encircling cards...I am not that much of a detail-receptor person so it will be hard for me at first hopefully it will develop in near future.. Zoso!! That was what i was trying to explain back in my first post..and yes some cards do keep coming up day after day making me see that there is a message that i should really look into..And my readings are mostly about feelings emotions and etc .. I like that area a lot..i like everything mysterious LOL :)

zoso	11 Jun 2005
Me too. I bet you have some Scorpio or 12th house placements.

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