tarot power
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 18 Jun 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| gomab11 |
18 Jun 2005 |
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from where does tarot get its power. the spiritual world or what??
Gomab
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| SunChariot |
18 Jun 2005 |
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The power is not in the cards. They are cardboard with images on them. The power is on you. And in all Tarot readers. It always has been and always will be.
We have this power in is that Tarot lets us access more easily. I lot of it comes from our unconscious mind. When you think of how little of our brains we actually use....!Tarot lets us access some unconscious parts of ourselves and the collective unconsious which is connected to it all and knows it all.
Another perspective is when ask the universe (G-d) a question and have a sincere need for the asnwer, it/he sends it to us. The Tarot is a great vehicle for this kind of communication, although it often shows up in other forms if we are paying attention.
Personally, I beleive in a combination of the two.:-)
Bar
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| HedgeWych |
19 Jun 2005 |
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from where does tarot get its power. the spiritual world or what??
Gomab
It gets it's power through the belief of the individual.
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| tarotbear |
19 Jun 2005 |
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from where does tarot get its power. the spiritual world or what??
Gomab
Tarot gets it's power either from the Children's Television Workshop, or a group of radical faerie elves that dwell under the sub-basement at U S Games Systems, Inc in Stamford, Connecticut. They formed a power company called 'Nothing Written in Stone,' and are now on the NYSE. :smoker:
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| Amandajane |
19 Jun 2005 |
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The power is not in the cards. They are cardboard with images on them. The power is on you. And in all Tarot readers. It always has been and always will be.
We have this power in is that Tarot lets us access more easily. I lot of it comes from our unconscious mind. When you think of how little of our brains we actually use....!Tarot lets us access some unconscious parts of ourselves and the collective unconsious which is connected to it all and knows it all.
Bar
I totally agree with the unconscious mind
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| freshyoyo |
19 Jun 2005 |
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as far as I am concerned, Tarot's power comes from people's souls and spirits, comes from our understanding about the readings of cards.
That's it.
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| snowy25 |
19 Jun 2005 |
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As I experiance it, it feels like the cards do nothing but hruw them we can make a link to tap into the invisible power that links all of us humans to eachother.
Also with the help of something higher then us humans (name it God, the universe etc.)
My theory for now;)
Love and light
Snowy
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| TrueStar |
19 Jun 2005 |
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This question comes up from time to time. There are a good number of theories about how the tarot could work and why it works running out there: synchronicity, rorschach-blob-like unconscious, a more deeper kind of unconscious (Jung's collective unconscious), the cards arranged by our spitit guides, the cards arranged by high level entities (angel like beings).
The serious people always talk about the rorschach type, may be because it seems more scientific, more serious, more rational-materialistic. But the only truth is the nobody is closer to have a real, rational idea of how tarot actually works.
You could analyze, ask, try to explain tarot in rational terms, but it is a very difficult task (not impossible although) because it is a device, a tool that works on an intuitive level. And so it can be more easily explained, in intuitive terms. Intuitively you can reach a more deeper and fast understanding of this tool and get a personal idea of how it works and etc (why not asking the tarot about how it works? it could be a very interesting reading for practice). Just bear in mind that the rational aproach being not impossible is more difficult for tarot.
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| Alta |
19 Jun 2005 |
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Tarot is certainly not a tool for the rational parts of our minds. I would say that it is (after Jung) a 'trap for the unconscious'. The unconscious stuff swirls around like dreams and is hard to pin down and use. The cards, their images, and the tarot system help trap these ideas so they can take form in the world via us, the readers.
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| MeeWah |
19 Jun 2005 |
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The only "power" in Tarot is that which the reader brings to the cards.
It is as any other tool of the divinatory arts: only as effective as the person wielding it.
Generally, the archetypal or universal symbols trigger both the conscious & unconscious responses & largely unique to the individual viewer. That is why different readers will read the same set of cards in ranges from the similar to the dissimilar depending on various influences such as their background, beliefs, experiences, perceptions & understanding of the vehicle.
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| SunChariot |
19 Jun 2005 |
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The only "power" in Tarot is that which the reader brings to the cards.
It is as any other tool of the divinatory arts: only as effective as the person wielding it.
Generally, the archetypal or universal symbols trigger both the conscious & unconscious responses & largely unique to the individual viewer. That is why different readers will read the same set of cards in ranges from the similar to the dissimilar depending on various influences such as their background, beliefs, experiences, perceptions & understanding of the vehicle.
Very true. If a bunch of readers all got the same cards in answer to the same question, I am sure each would come up with quite different readings. If the vehicle could only be understood one way this would not happen. It comes from us, each of us and our unique way of seeing life and it's meanings, and our connection.
Bar
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| Marina |
19 Jun 2005 |
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Very true. If a bunch of readers all got the same cards in answer to the same question, I am sure each would come up with quite different readings. If the vehicle could only be understood one way this would not happen. It comes from us, each of us and our unique way of seeing life and it's meanings, and our connection.
Bar
Hum..i agree with this in part. One must trust his intuition, of course, and no reading will be ever exactly like the other (we're not robots, after all). However...too much difference cannot happen. The Tarot doesn't change it's basic meanings from reader to reader, right? If they got the same card, for the same question and the same situation, then something in common their conclusion must have.
Some people use intuition as an excuse to believe in what they want, and not in what the cards are really saying. Big no-no - discipline is also important!
That's why Tarot requires lots of studying, i believe ;)
Intuition + study = power.
~Yuko
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| NightWing |
20 Jun 2005 |
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Of course, what no one here wants to openly admit is that tarot gets its power from Satan: he sends his demons from Hell to influence both the placement of the cards and the way in which we interpret them. In this manner, we stray off the path that leads to heaven, and eventually are condemned to Hell, there to roast slowly forever, the demons cackling with delight and nipping at our noses! })
P.S. I think our Tarot cards get chucked in the flames too!
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| snowy25 |
20 Jun 2005 |
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Of course, what no one here wants to openly admit is that tarot gets its power from Satan: he sends his demons from Hell to influence both the placement of the cards and the way in which we interpret them. In this manner, we stray off the path that leads to heaven, and eventually are condemned to Hell, there to roast slowly forever, the demons cackling with delight and nipping at our noses! })
P.S. I think our Tarot cards get chucked in the flames too!
Lol...
I like this describtion, we all have evil cards and all AT members will meet again in hell. })
Hahahahaha (evil grin)
But seriouse:
Why would the cards have powers themselves?
It's like our words.
They have powers to (just listen to your favorite music and it could bring a happy memorie or a feeling of being at ease).
But they are just letters and sounds.
Our understanding gives it power on its own.
It's just like that with the tarot, just paper but we understand things better with them.
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| Ross G Caldwell |
20 Jun 2005 |
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from where does tarot get its power. the spiritual world or what??
Gomab
I think the inherent power of the tarot comes from the images on the cards, the legends surrounding them, and the life experience we bring to the table in reading them.
The practical power of the cards comes from the fact that they can be rearranged and played with in an almost infinite variety of ways. That is, they are fun and open the imagination.
The images are the doorway to the imagination. The legends intoxicate the spirit - just as physical intoxication shakes the body, spiritual intoxication shakes the soul loose, and allows it to fly. So the legends are a necessary first step to tasting that power, even if they are abandoned as unnecessary later.
So, I think the spiritual power of the tarot is essentially its ability to free the imagination. Whether that imagination/soul/spirit achieves clairvoyance depends largely on one's innate capacity for it, but personally I believe it can be done. It is not necessarily a skill to aim at, however, unless you have a calling for it.
The cards also possess the intrinsic power of being an historical mystery - their creator, the exact date of creation, their original order and exact choice of subjects, and the meaning of that sequence, are all unanswered questions, even if the big picture is clear.
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