spirit guides

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 25 Nov 2001, and now archived in the Forum Library.

cayacia	25 Nov 2001
ok so I've been trying to get in touch with my guides for a few months and my friend who has gotten me started on this has been mildly helpful (Josh is not a hands-on teacher, unfortunately). Anyway I've met the male over my right shoulder a few times (in dreams) and I believe his name is Nicolas. I think the female on my left has come to me once in the form of an acquaintence named Jessica (and lately I've been wondering if that is what she's telling me she looks like, if that is her name, or if she was just appearing to me in a familiar form). THe female is a lot more mischievious than my male. I havn't got a clue about my one above me yet :o So anyway, I'm curious as to what other people have done to meet their guides. Josh always tells me to ask which I do every night but I usually forget my dreams by morning, which sucks. THough the night I learned Nicolas' name I asked to remeber it that morning which I did, so that was why I'm sure that's his name. Also, how do you guys communicate with them? And know that they are speaking to you. I have a serious problem with listening to any sort of inner voice and telling the difference between my thoughts and other ones. :-p

jade	25 Nov 2001
if you look in the archives, there have been talks about this in the recent past. i don't have time to post the title of the discussion, but i will later. blessed be. jade

cayacia	25 Nov 2001
Ah, well, I'm new here but I'll search for some of the old ones.

cayacia	26 Nov 2001
I can't find any old entries on this. :-( Please any ideas peoples?

AmounrA	01 Dec 2001
Hello Cayacia, Have you tried using your Taro cards as pathworking tools (mandalas)? It is a fairly easy process. for spirit guides the card to use is 'the moon'. If you have a classic deck, then the moon card should have the following elements......a crayfish emerging from water, a path, two towers and the moon.Heres what you do.... Look at the moon card for a couple of minutes with full concentration. Close your eyes and visulise the card in your minds eye. The trick is to treat the card as one frame in an animation, in your head lift the pause button. Imagine you are the crayfish, emerged under the water. Stay under until you feel comfortable. Then walk out of the water and onto the shore.(use all the senses in visualisation, as it helps the mind build into the scene) . Walk along the path. You can now metamorphis into any 'entity' you like. Stand between the two towers and either wait for, or call for guidence. A guide(s) should appear out of the night. Greet them as friends you love. Look up and wink at the moon. From here you can go anywhere( visit the towers / or walk the path into the horizon for example). You can repeat this operation with every card in the deck. Often things that don't make sense will at a later time, so it's a good idea to keep records of your journey with each card. All this travelling takes place in the mind, which is really inside universe(unity in verse). Just let your imagination go (1.magi nation) :-) Over time your links with your guides will grow stronger.

cayacia	01 Dec 2001
I've used my cards before to ask about my guides personalities and I've had a couple of different things happen. THe most recent thing I had come up was using the Haindl deck lent to me and my female (to my left) came up as the mother of wands in the east, a wild, mischivious woman, which I've felt before with her. It's as though she's hiding herself (things like her name and form) from me just to be funny. \^_^ SInce I posted this originally I had another dream like the one before where the acquaintence Jessica came and talked to me only this time it was another acaintence of mine (I say acquiantence because they're not people I'm very close to). WHen I woke up I got out the Haindl and asked which guide it was that had spoken to me and I pulled the moon. What is funny, though, is that when I was first lent the deck I asked for my Self card and it was the moon. So that was very confusing. However, another thought occured to me: perhaps it was my divine (the one above me I havn't concentrated on yet). I'll deffinately try meditating with the cards like you suggested, AmounrA. It's something I've often considiered doing but have never actually sat down and done O.o

AmounrA	01 Dec 2001
The moon is the card of initiation. It's seems to me you are now firmly on 'the path'.Fro the moon the path will take you too the sun card. Over the mountains in the moon card comes the sun. In the sun meditation, the fool may appear. A lot of the 'fool' symbolism, corralates to the symplicity the sun card represents. When in the sun areana, try and visulize a white rose being planted in your heart. This is your spiritual heart. The trick is to keep the rose growing stronger.....(some visulize and oak seed being planted). I don't know if you have ever played with a map called 'tree of life'. It is an excellent pathworking map. (on it the central sphere is the sun/star) Taro cards are as much designed for visulization as they are for divination. The games you play inside, will also interact with your external reality( as the moon card is already showing) :-)

Ceti	29 Dec 2001
Cayacia, the moon is blessing your journey. I can recommend daily meditation as an excellent base for developing relationship with spirit guides. There's an excellent book of guided meditations I can suggest too, if it's still in print, called, Mother Wit, by Diane Mariechild. it's published by Crossing Press. I'm sure there are plenty of aids available. You do get what you ask for but it comes at the right time rather than the time you think it should come. Setting aside some time each day when you are receptive to your spirit guides is a good way to invite them. I've found that they like that show of commitment. You may also benefit from meditating with the Star card. Sometimes you have to back off a little and create a space for something to happen. May your journey be blessed, Ceti

cj	29 Dec 2001
cayacia Mine is advise most people here will tell you NEVER DO..I used a ouiju board... I'm not ituitive without my cards..it sounds like you are...keep an open mind and heart cj

Lizard	29 Dec 2001
Cay While I'm not heavilly into spirit guides (mostly tarot and Qabalah), i am a member of a very loving communiy where there are several people who are . http://uk.msnusers.com/TheSpiritualGardenLearningCentre Regards Liz

Kalin	30 Dec 2001
I've had a couple of experiences with spirit guides, but only sought them out in one case. Shortly after my mother crossed over, one of my siblings had a great opportunity and asked me to accompany her to a large days-long event, because I had a number of contacts at the event and she had none. Well, I did have the contacts but I had never attended any of the professional events because they involved over-crowded hotels, conference rooms, etc., and I was afraid of crowds and didn't function very well in those settings. Well, my sibling was fairly begging me to do this with her and I just felt terrible about hesitating. I was driving in my car and just talking aloud to myself and said, "Mom, please, I really want to help her but I just can't do this!" I was just whining out loud, not really expecting an answer, but two days later I had a spontaneous recall of something that happened in a crowd when I was very young. Instantly I knew why I was afraid of crowds and got edgy and angry when I had to be in a crowd. Suddenly recovering the repressed memory and knowing WHY I was afraid enabled me to make the trip with my sibling and we had a great time. I'm still not great in crowds, but I know how to keep my emotions under control. And at this point in the post I am realizing it's going to be a long one, but I hope not boring. A couple of years later I had a professional opportunity, but I had to do some preparation and was procrastinating badly. Again, I called out to my mother for help, just whining, not expecting anything at all, and again, two days later, I was driving around, procrastinating, and at this point just saying to myself, "I can't do this, I just can't do it". In response, I clearly heard a voice inside my head that was not my own. I knew whose voice it was and it was so real that I actually turned to the passenger seat and said, "Dad?" Anyway, his words to me were, "but you can win". The experience was so powerful that I went home, did the prep work I needed to do, and did, in fact, win the opportunity. The guide experience I did solicit was for a spirit guide. An online friend who had studied in this area suggested her method and I followed, meditating on my concept of a peaceful, private place. But only when I asked my mother to help me find my guide did a vision materialize. It was kind of funny, because I visualized this thing that looked very much like a hair bow, so I am deep in meditation and thinking, "geez, my spirit guide is a fricking hair bow????" In the next instant, the "hair bow" sprang into vibrant, constantly changing colors, enabling me to see that my spirit guide was a butterfly. In honor of this experience I built a butterfly garden in my yard and get many, MANY, butterfly visitors each summer. My most recent experience was only a few months ago and I am still not sure of all the implications, but anyway, I was just about to drop off into sleep when I clearly saw words, as though being typed on a computer screen. The words were "My name is Shaolin". I had never heard this word before (and if I did it must have been in the briefest passing instant) so I looked it up on the net. Turns out that "Shaolin" is an ancient form of martial arts, associated with the Zen philosophy. I was pretty fascinated by this because a few years ago, a tarot reader had told me that one of my guides is Asian. Best I can tell up till now is that "Shaolin" is a part of my subconscious that is much more confident about answers to things I know but question in my conscious mind. Well, those are my experiences of being assisted by guides. Hope they are helpful in some way. Kalin :)

Lizard	30 Dec 2001
Thanks from me Kalin that was interesting. Liz

Ceti	30 Dec 2001
Kalin, I enjoyed your story about talking with the spirits and finding out the name of your Spirit Guide. I don't have any interesting stories to tell at this time but I have been working with the same guide for 20 years now, and I still feel like we just started. Some people get bent out of shape over whether a Spirit Guide is our Higher Selves or not. I've learned to acknowledge that I don't have explanations for everything. I did spend a lot of time with my guide on such topics, more time than I like to admit, but finally I came to accept that some things will remain a mystery in life. Ceti

jade	30 Dec 2001
the archived title is 'spirit guides' on the last page of the archives! in light, your moderator friend and helper. :)

fairyhedgehog	31 Dec 2001
I've been trying to work out where the archives are and how to get to them, but I have failed :( Please could someone help? Regards, FH

Kaz	31 Dec 2001
FairyHedgehog, put the topic to show all time, go to next page and then you find it. for your convenience, here's the url: http://www.aeclectic.net/forum/UltraBoard.cgi?action=Read&BID=10&TID=341&SID=88887 Kaz

jade	31 Dec 2001
thanks kaz!!! all the archives are stored in the section they are posted in. a few have been deleted in the chat section because some of them were, "hey man how ya been, where ya been, who ya been doing it with"...... but anything that is of value....is kept! in light, the moderator person for this section LOL

cayacia	01 Jan 2002
Wow guys, thanks for all the stories and suggestions. I deffinately need to meditate with my cards more-Like I'm going to go and do now but not on this. Unfortunately, my other major life "problem" keeps on getting in the way of trying to get in touch with my other guides. :-} Nicholas, though, seems to be whispering in my right ear, though, even if I don't hear him. ^_^

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