Soul mates...Believe it ???

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 16 Feb 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Ramses	16 Feb 2002
Hey everyone... how are you ???...Hope you´re fine... Well, do you believe in soul mates???...Do you have a soul mate??? I used to believe it more fiercilly, nowadays not that much...but, my girlfriend and I have quite a story together... We are dating only because my youngest aunt got pregnant and married this guy...he is my girlfriend´s brother...and, one day, at my aunt´s birthday party I met my girlfriend...and we´re together for 5 years...I was 17, she was 23...I´m Brazilian...she´s Brazilian, too, but Japanese descendant... Many things worked against us...and we´re still together...of course we had some problems and disagreements, but...you know.... My point is ...Could she and I be soul mates?...Maybe...we even have that strong mind connection...kind of telepathy.. And you people?...What do you think about it ?... Do you believe in soul mates of any kind ??? LOVE,PEACE AND HARMONY TO YOU ALL !!!!!!

Marion	16 Feb 2002
I guess it has to come down to belief and anecdotal evidence. Two things. My best girlfriend, Cat, says she is a soulmate with an internet boyfriend who lives pretty well on the other side of the world. She says they feel the same things at the same time, that when they get together to chat they already know what the other one has been doing. They actually sort of resemble each other. She uses the term 'fated' a lot. She says they like absolutely all the same things, have the same sense of humour. The list goes on. The other, a book, 'Tryst', by Elswyth Thane. It is about two people who are destined to be together but he gets killed before they meet. So he comes to find her as a ghost. Sounds corny eh? I am reasonably un-sentimental and that story makes me cry. Plus, there have been some fairly convincing stories on this board. Can't remember when, I think Kiama started one thread. Do I believe in soul mates? To quote Kiama... dunno...

Liliana	16 Feb 2002
Yes I believe in soul mates, butwe have many in this life, not one. A soiul mateis someone whom we've shared a life with before, usually as close relatives/friends/lovers. My husband is one of my lover soulmates, I know in at least one life I really truly was in love with him but was much much older, so we never got together, but Ispent all my time fixing him up with girls because if I couldnt have him I wanted to choose who could lol. here are other peole I knowIve been close to in past lives as well, but usually not in the love sense(and when i do stumble upon someone else that is a love related soul mate I often have trouble conducting myself properly for a married woman lol)

slinky_jo	16 Feb 2002
I agree with Liliana - soulmates aren't always your boyfr/wife/lover etc. They are usually someone you will reincanrante with again and again, and not always in the same form. EG your mother may have been your brother in a past life, and you may have been the aunty! To me personally, I don't believe that a soul mate is "the one" who you have been searching for all your life to love, marry and procreate with! I think it's more complicated than that. I believe that soul mates come from unresolved Karma. I think that my best friend and I are karmicly linked! We are both aquarians, fire dragons, numerology 7 in birth, and 5 in names. Also we weigh the same - hahahaheee!!! Just a bit of "light" relief! :)

Ramses	17 Feb 2002
Thanks a lot folks... Yeah, I think you´re absolutelly right....many people, and I was one of them, always think of soul mates being related to the person you´re gonna marry and stuff... But, I think the other thread I started, about reincarnations is expressing these things you were just telling me...but, of course you two gave me a more specific answer...thanks a lot...it really helped... LOVE,PEACE AND HARMONY TO YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!

Lilliana	17 Feb 2002
I would like to believe in soul mates, really, I would. ....but at the moment, I don't. Lilli

Moonklad	17 Feb 2002
I think of souls as energy and my personal beliefs are that we are ALL all just divisions of this One energy-The energy of the universe that I consider diety. Therefore I don't feel that my soul would be anymore closer to another soul since we are all just a division of One. In that sense I feel everyone is a soulmate. On the otherhand, I can not deny that there are some that we meet that we definately feel more closely tied to. I think perhaps when we feel this closeness, like we have known them before we may be simply recognizing ourselves. To me it is kinda like if someone had never looked into a mirror before. You see a reflection in a mirror. You like what you see, the more you look the more similarities you find. It never crosses your mind that you are looking at yourself. An even bigger theory of mine is this recognition is what makes us form relationships with others. Its our attempt to become closer to our own energies. When we mate we actually join those energies back together. Thats why it is so desirable and pleasurable. All creatures seem to be driven to mingle the energies back together. Then again, maybe I have not had enough caffeine this morning. LOL Either way, its interesting to think about, blessing, Moonklad

Kiama	17 Feb 2002
I definitely believe in soul-mates. I was cynical until Spring-Summer-ish last year, when I met two people who I really think are two of my soul-mates. The first is my boyfriend, and the second is Malachite. I met him on an Archaeology and Anthropology week-course at Oxford University, an we baically hit it off from the start! We had about 13 hours slep total tht week, (Not because we were doing anything naughty!) becaus we were chatting, drinking coffee, laughin, andwe even shared a meditation. When I say shared, it was basically like we were seeing exactly the same place, people, ect, but from different angles. I could see everything from above, like a bird, and Malachite could see throughthe eyes of the person. It was weird, and freaked us both out. It was like the energy was passing through both our bodies (We were holding hands fo this meditation) and we were sharing the same thoughts... Since then we've been through a hell of alot. But we're still friends, and I know there will always be something there between us. My boyfriend agrees that I'm one of his soul-mates, probably the main one for his life. I don't know how we know this, it just feels right. Soul-mates isn't something hat I find easy to explain, since it is more about feeling and emotion that about things you can express with words. I think that to express how I know these people are my soul mate would involve making up whole new words, which I can't do! Kiama

Ramses	17 Feb 2002
Hey folks...thanks for the participation.... and, Lilliana, if you´d like to believe in soul mates, then you can do it...maybe if you´re feeling disappointed with someone, or feeling lonely, you are gonna have a hard time to find happiness with people around you...so, be strong, and be happy...just relax...(and if I was all wrong...well, just tell me to shut up, OK?)...but, I understand you...once in a while we tend not to believe in things we used to believe, etc... And, Moonklad...I liked your theories very much...sometimes I think the same way you do, too, about us being all fractions of the same greater energy in the Universe...it´s very interesting to think that way...sometimes I think of why people hurt each other so much, when we´re all the same, so we´re only hurting ourselves...and when I say WE , I mean 'the human being'...yeah, the human being loves making things complicated, when they are so simple... And Kiama, I loved your story...really did...I wish I could find someone, I mean, a friend with whom I could share that kind of connection too...and it was very interesting to know that you´re into Archeology and Antropology...very interesting subjects... Well, people, that´s it ...hope you all find happiness in life, whether believing or not believing in soul mates... LOVE,PEACE AND HARMONY TO YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cayacia	17 Feb 2002
Oh yes, but not in the way a lot of people think where it's just two people destined to be together forever. Mind you I'm still smoothing out wrinkles in this theroy but my personal experince with it left me convinced that there is reincarnation and you can often meet up with people from a past life. I didn't understand it at first when I met Josh (a lot of you are groaning going "Him, again!?" sorry). I felt like I should know him and we should be so close but I had never known him before and I was just one big emotional mess until I finnally did get to know him and he started teaching me esoteric stuff and Tarot, etc. I now see that I felt an urgency to be close to him because I've known him in a past life, though I'm not sure how yet, niether is he. Josh call it a Soul Pack, like a group of souls that have been together over time, I suppose. Sometimes don't you wonder that you might have missed someone you've known before because you were too blind to see it? I do. I'm hoping that I'll get to meet other past companions in this life, too. L&L, cayacia

tempestfire	18 Feb 2002
Definately believe in soul mates! I always felt that we continue to meet the same souls. That we have our 'groups' of souls that for whatever purpose are meant to be together. Until this past year however, I didn't really believe in soul mates... two souls so connected to each other that they will find each other again... kind of thing. My story- for any who might be interested or slightly amused- is this. I met my soulmate briefly one evening. We seemed to have some wierd connection from the start. Things he said were exactly how I felt/ or what I was thi nking. When we parted ways- it was with the knowledge that we would probably never see each other again. He was moving. There was no real chance for anything to start up. For the next week- I could not get him off my mind- I had this overpowering feeling that I had to get to know him just a little bit better. If only for a brief time. I had to figure out what was drawing me to this stranger. So, I did something I never do- I tried to find him/ get in touch with him. We talked a couple of times- then went out. We were both a bit nervous at first- but seemed to really hit it off. We had the same interests, the same dislikes, we really seemed completely in tune with each other. At the end of this 'date' we both made the comment that this was the perfect relationship. Knowing that this was the entirity of it- begining to end as he was moving. Again, I couldn't leave it at that- meeting him had made such an impact on me and my life- I couldn't let him move without seeing him at least one more time. So we got together again. This time I am thinking 'OK now I will see all that is wrong' but it was even better than before. Long story short- we are still together- almost a year later- and are still in the perfect relationship. It just gets better every day. We are still amazed at it. He still has me awed... and says he is in awe of me. We seem to have the same hopes, fears, dreams, we seem to compliment each other in ways that you think are just fantasy/ don't really happen. Being with him makes me really feel like I am whole. All the things that were missing before in other relationships are here. Things I didn't even know were possible/ feelings etc.. are here. It is wonderful. Finding your soulmate definately happens when you don't expect it- and don't think you want it. But there is a definate need/ desire to connect with them. It is wonderful- and I am truely happy that we found each other- even if we did both fight the possibility of it being more than a casual friendship. Thats my story.Sorry so long. tempestfire

Annie	18 Feb 2002
Good question! I used to believed 100% about it. But sometimes I have some doubts... I have a boyfriend to whom I am for some years. We have a good relationship but I feel it's not so good as it could be. Many time I don't feel myself secure... I think he is living a period of his life he wants to know other girls... you know? If he told me it is true I don't know how it could be in my mind, in my heart... Do you think is possible a man have only one girl? I mean have a girlfriend and be sincere and never betray her? How about women? Are they sincere too?

Ramses	19 Feb 2002
Hey folks...hope you´re all fine ... well, as you all can see...it´s difficult to determine whether soul mates exist or not ....it all depends on believing in it, on our opinions about it ... some people believe in soul mates, others don´t... some people used to believe, but have been hurt, and now they doubt something they had, once, taken for granted... yeah, folks...that´s what we call "life"....it´s complicated...but, it´s worth living it ... LOVE,PEACE AND HARMONY TO YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VGimlet	23 Feb 2002
I do believe in soul mates. I also agree that you are not limited to just your Love, but that the friends in your life can be soulmates. My husband and I are definately soulmates. We were completely destined to be together. As kids, we had the same doctor, dentist, and opthamologist. When we got married, his family (both sides) wondered who had invited some long-time friends to our small wedding. The friends in question were my next door neighbors since birth, who had known my husband's family since before he was born. But more than that, is the undefinable connection we have always had, from the beginning. The link that made us keep trying, even when things got rough. I have found a few other soul mates along the way as well, although none as strong as my love, so far. :)

Kaleidoscope Eyes	27 Feb 2002
Sorry, folks, but I'm gonna play the curmudgeon here. I don't believe in soul mates. Oh, I have experienced at one time or another something of what's been mentioned above, but in 48-some years of livin' in the Asylum, and having been in my share of relationships (romantic and otherwise), I can honestly say I've not met what, by the standard definition, I would call a "soul mate." I believe in God/The Great Spirit/Tao/choose your diety concept, but as for that Platonic ideal, "two halves of one," "destined for each other by God" and all that.. nah. Never seen it. And in this case, I'm from Missouri, y'know? I suspect it's really just a Hollywood fairy tale. As for that romantic, sexual kind of relationship people get so goo-goo about, I believe it's basically hormones, and at any given time, there are at least a million or more people in existence with whom one could have a spiritual/mental/emotional/physical experience commonly termed the "soul mate" experience.

magdalene	02 Mar 2002
As a tarot reader, I've learned that todays soulmate is tomorrows ex-husband/ ex-wife. But seriously, My husband of 18 years is my best friend on the planet, we have three incredible children and a rich history. But I think we found each other more due to good fortune than destiny. magdalene

truthsayer	02 Mar 2002
years ago, i used to read everything i could on reincarnation and soulmates. i just loved the romance of it all. one of my fav writers on the subject was dick sutphen. if i remember correctly, he used past life regression to establish links w/ women who were supposedly his soulmates. i don't know how many times he did this to find the perfect mate--4 i think. this is not to say i disbelieve in soulmates but things like this made me really question the concept. magdalene makes a good point--today's soulmate may be tomorrow's ex. i have met ppl over the years that i felt inexplicably drawn to. the relationships both romantic and friendship tended to have an intense period then ended. the relationships i've made w/ ppl that i took a more relaxed approach to have been by far the most lasting. it was definitely not love at first sight with my husband. we are very different. yet over 13 years(6 of them married) we've forged a strong relationship--friendhsip and otherwise--that has stood the test of time, trials and tribulations thus far. we've both grown and learned from each other. we are both better ppl due to our union than we would have been separately. we complement and enhance each other. is he my soul mate? i don't know. i've met men i felt far more passionate and had far more in common. yet this one has far outlasted all the ones i spontaneusly felt were my "soulmates". due to this, i find the concept confusing b/c i learned to love and appreciate him over time not spontaneity. i have deeply felt the "in love" warm fuzzies w/ my husband off and on our whole relationship. there have been times i have felt disappointed not to experience that wonderful feeling of merging w/ someone who is my mirror self. i had that feeling of "soulmates" w/ my ex and for a while it was so marvelous. however, my exhusband used to get so angry at me b/c i was my own person and not his mirror image. he wanted to believe we were soulmates but that didn't allow any room for individuality. this bad experience makes me appreciate my husband even more. he makes me feel complete in that he is everything i am not and helps me w/ the things i'm not good at and vice versa for him. in that way, we are mirror images. i completely trust him. i can be his mate and an individual. to me that's more imp and valuable than knowing he is such a romantic concept as a soulmate. true love should also incorporate freedom to grow as part and parcel of the relationship's gifts.

joya250	02 Mar 2002
well put, Truthsayer.

raeanne	02 Mar 2002
I almost wrote this story when Cayacia was having problems talking to her friend Josh about her feelings. But, I guess it fits here just as well. Danny. I met him when I was a teenager and I went through a period of time where I wanted the relationship to be more. We had so much in common. When we first met, it was like we had known each other all our lives (which was, what, maybe 17 years for me)? God, we were young. We would stay up all night talking about everything. I never felt more comfortable than when I was with Danny. Our relationship became a bit awkward when we talked about our feelings for each other. We neither one really understood what was going on but the bottom line was that we were best friends and not lovers. We loved to hold each other, we loved to kiss each other, we loved to roll on the floor tickling each other, but we were friends and not lovers. During the awkward stage it was hard for us to touch each other. Thank God, we finally got past that awkward stage! We used to go camping together and when the sun was setting, we would draw the sunset on each other’s back with just our hands. He would draw what he saw on my back and then I would draw the way I saw the sunset on his back. If I close my eyes today, I can still feel the way a sunset looked. Well, over the years he had lovers and I had lovers. We both got married and divorced, twice for each of us. But, guess what? Our friendship lasted. Through good times and bad, we were always there for each other. I wouldn’t have traded this friendship for anything in the world. He was my best buddy. We were friends for 30 years when he passed on in 1997. I have thought about what life would have been like if we would have had married each other and I am convinced we would have destroyed each other. Sometimes people are meant to be friends. I hate it when people say "just friends" because there isn’t a "just". Friends are precious. In many ways I think Danny and I had something better than romance. I can honestly say we loved each other more than most couples I know. Was he my soul mate? Probably, but I don’t like the term soul mate. It sounds too…I don’t know, I just don’t like it. I miss Danny so much that my heart still aches and the tears still come more easily than I sometimes want them too. But, the story doesn’t end there. Part Two to be posted later.

raeanne	02 Mar 2002
Danny – Part 2. So, as I said, Danny passed away in the fall of 1997. That was a very bad year. Princess Diana, Mother Teresa, Jacques Cousteau, etc. we lost them all that year. Danny’s death was sudden and unexpected. It came in the evening, as the sun was setting. Now, as you learned from part one of this story, sunsets were very special to Danny and I. As I look back now, it seems right that probably the last thing he saw was a sunset. Well, now I have to back up a bit in order to finish this story. When I was 19 years old, I started smoking cigarettes. For you young folks, I have to say that smoking was much more accepted in the dark ages than it is today. Anyway, Danny smoked too, but not much and mostly “other” smokes and only once in awhile. I smoked the “other” smokes too but that is another story and I haven’t done that in many, many years. Anyway, I smoked a pack of cigarettes a day, everyday. I wouldn’t go anywhere without my cigs. My car wouldn’t start without a cigarette in my mouth. I wouldn’t go out to the mailbox without my cigs because a neighbor might stop me and want to talk. The first thing each morning, before my feet hit the floor, I lit a cigarette. I smoked during both of my pregnancies. When I was 31, I was diagnosed with cervical cancer. The doctors told me to quit if I could but not to put too much stress on myself. Well, it was too much stress to quit! I kept on smoking. Times changed and more people began quitting but I kept on smoking. I adjusted to the changes at work when I had to go outside to smoke. I really did try to quit. I was hypnotized three times. I tried every method known and all the little gadgets, including the one that poked holes in the cig. I tried the nicotine patch. I tried the nicotine gum. One time I had a patch on and the urge to smoke was getting too strong so I grabbed a piece of the gum and I still ended up outside for a cigarette! I never increase the amount I smoked, always a pack a day. Anyway, a couple of months after Danny died the place where I work was talking about making the entire campus non-smoking. I would not be allowed to smoke anywhere on campus, not even in my own car if it was on campus property! Well, I was upset! (This never happened but it was proposed) I was still hurting very badly from losing Danny and I went home that night feeling as low as…whatever. It wasn’t good. Danny was my “go to man”, the guy would “go to” whenever I had a problem but Danny wasn’t here to help me this time. I went to bed that night in a world of pain and cried myself to sleep. Then, the strangest thing happened! I had a dream, but it wasn’t like a usual dream. It was something different. To be continued in Part 3.

raeanne	02 Mar 2002
Danny – Part 3. The dream was very strange. There were no surroundings. I don’t know how to say this, but there were no walls, floor, scenery, or anything. I don’t know what I was standing on because there was no floor! So, I looked up and there was Danny! God, he looked good! I’m not talking about the handsome type of looking good (I always did think he was handsome as hell) but in the “healthy, alive” sort of looking good. He was sitting cross-legged so I sat down in front of him cross-legged too and we held hands. I told Danny that I wanted to become more spiritual. He said the one thing I didn’t want to hear! He said; “Then quit smoking.” In the dream (if it was a dream) I was devastated. I had tears in my eyes when I told him I couldn’t do it alone since he had died. He answered; “Then ask for help!” I said the only thing I could say; “Danny, help me quit!” The dream ended and I had a restful night’s sleep. The next morning was a Sunday. I got up, had breakfast, read the paper, played with the cat, and then it hit me! I had been awake for almost two hours and I hadn’t had a cigarette! What was more astonishing to me was that the cigs were still in the bedroom! I never left them more than two feet away from me! Then, I realized I didn’t want a cigarette! There was no urge to smoke! Absolutely, totally, no urge to smoke! I couldn’t believe it. I started to laugh so hard! Then the dream all came back to me in one big WOOSH! Well folks, that happened in February of 1998 and I still haven’t had another cigarette. Was Danny my soul mate? Hell, no! He was my life! Sometimes I will sit in the dark with just a candle lit and I feel like I can almost reach out and cross over to the other side to touch his face. At other times the empty spot in my heart just hurts. Ramses asked if we were afraid to die. Well, I am afraid of the actual death process because I don’t remember having ever done it before so I don’t know what it will be like. But, once I get on the other side I know I will be fine. I will paint sunsets with my best friend.

truthsayer	03 Mar 2002
raeanne, what a beautiful story! sniff! a real tear jerker. you should share that story other places. maybe it would inspire other ppl to quit smoking. i've cared for ppl in the hospital w/ end stage lung and heart disease that resulted from a lifetime of smoking. not a pretty sight at all. this is not to say that i judge smokers harshly. i know it's a very addictive habit and extremely difficult to quit. my father has smoked around 50 years. now that i'm in nursing school, i'm learning how to visually access respiratory illness by observing a patient. it saddens me to observe the signs in him but nothing will make him stop. i care b/c smoking seems to cause such needless suffering and i don't want more ppl to suffer this way. perhaps unconditional love like you received from danny is a more permanent cure than patches or hypnosis, etc. i wish my dad could experience those kinds of feelings that you had in that dream w/ danny. it might extend his life some. maybe i can pray for some kind of message to be sent to dad like you got in a dream. again very sweet, very inspiring story. i appreciate you opening yourself up to share w/ us.

raeanne	03 Mar 2002
Thanks, Truthsayer. I’ve tried a couple of times to figure out what the "dream" was. I wish every person who smokes could have this type of experience. I know from the years of trying to quit, just how difficult it is. I don’t know if what happened to me happened because I desperately needed to reach a different level spiritually so I convinced myself I had to quit or if it was a true miracle. I really don’t want to analyze it too much. If there are other smokers in this group, I want to say that I understand the difficulty of quitting. I know, without a doubt, that I would still be smoking today if this experience had not happened. I don’t think it is the physical addiction to nicotine that is so very hard to break. If it were, then the patch or gum would work fairly easily for most people. It is the psychological dependency that is the tough thing to break. I don’t think there was anyone more mentally addicted to smoking than I was. I ran out of cigs once and drove for a couple of hours because the only place that I knew that was open and sold cigarettes was a bowling alley that was 60 miles away. I really don’t have an explanation for the way I was able to quit other than to say it was a miracle. Even without this experience, Danny was and is my best friend. I hope everyone has a “Danny” in their life but I have a feeling that this type of friend is very rare; Kipling’s “The Thousandth Man”.

truthsayer	03 Mar 2002
i agree that a friend like danny happens rarely. i wouldn't try to analyze what happened too much. i think the merits of the experience stands on its own. i was told by a friend who is a recovering alcoholic that drinking is seeking God in a bottle. perhaps smoking has a similar spiritual goal. i've never smoked but i've had really strange experiences if i happened to stay in a smoking hotel room. all night long i dreamed about craving a cigarette to such a point it was agonizing. it was worse than hunger pains. it felt like my body needed/craved something at a physical and emotional level that i couldn't identify. i felt similar feelings when i felt empty spiritually. since then i realize it would be quite easy for me to become a smoker. during moments of stress i've even felt an urge to go buy a pack even tho i never i have. i don't even know how to smoke a cigarette! :D the whole experience is strange to me. i've never heard this happening to anyone else. perhaps i was a smoker in a past life? (twilight zone theme song)

purplelady	04 Mar 2002
On the subject of smoking and quitting I started smoking at 14 , and smoked for 15 yrs. My dad is a smoker, so they let me smoke at home , not wanting to be hypocrites I guess! But I also believe there may be a genetic componant in being addicted to cigarettes. I read an article once theorizing it may be related to how the body processes sugar. The year I quit , I was smoking at least 1 and a half packs every day. Quitting was something I Decided I really wanted to do. One reason was that I Felt it was controlling me , that I was out of control . I came to this realization because I was unable to even cut back for more than like 1 day. I also began to worry about the health effects more and more. And I decided to Not let IT control Me.

purplelady	04 Mar 2002
My ex-husband quit by going to a hypnosis seminar. But that was inconvenient for me at the time . So I decided to buy self hypnosis tapes, but I could not find any in the stores. So , instead I ended up buying 3 books. One is a book About smoking and the history of smoking! The other 2 are by experts in quitting smoking. At this point , all the smokers , and even non smokers usually walk away! I guess I must be the onl;y person in the world who quit smoking by reading a book! I guess there are a few times in my life where being a real introvert pays off! I immersed myself in the book experience , starting off with the history of smoking (book also describes the dire health warnings in vivid detail). Then onto the books by experts on actual quit smoking techniques.

purplelady	04 Mar 2002
That was 6 and a half years ago. The thing I recall standing out in the book was a sort-of psychological convincing , believing , and telling yourself that "I am NOT a smoker". That whether I smoked for 1 yr or 90 yrs I am NOW not a smoker, and convincing myself of it! I remember , about a month before I actually quit , sort-of losing my mind , or losing my cool , screaming at my family , feeling my emotions were magnified. Sort-of the withdrawl (psychological) Before the actual act. The day I woke up and never smoked again , I never experienced much psychological withdrawl or even cravings . Didn't have 'em because I did such a job convincing myself that "I wasn't a smoker"! I have not touched one in 6 and a half years , though people may offer me one. I consider it like alchoholism. I will not allow myself to even have one puff ever no matter what because I believe I would be back to a pack and a half a day in no time. For me , the psychological thing worked. But I do believe for many many people a spiritual approach may work . Also , I Do believe that Love or spirituality can help and heal. Whatever works for you . That is different things for different people. My dad still smokes.

purplelady	04 Mar 2002
As for soulmates (I love your story raeanne!) I don't know whether I believe there is one , and only one soulmate for everyone. I do believe that people have reincarnational or karmic connections. I suppose there is a romantic part of me that still believes there is the one romantic soulmate out there for me. But logically I don't know if I really believe that!

purplelady	04 Mar 2002
On average of 2 or 3 times a year , I Dream of smoking a cigarrette. Somewhere between there and awakening I go " OH NO!" it takes me a minute to realize it was just a dream and I haven't actually smoked one!

amyel	04 Mar 2002
Hi Dan, Hey, how are you tonight???? :) Well Dan, I've been thinking about this post for quite some time. I never really thought about whether or not I believed in soul-mates. It's not a new concept to me. But, after alot of thought - and this post haunting me - I don't think I do believe in soul-mates. I'd like to. I believe in alot of things, like "People come into your life for a reason" and "fate" - but I don't believe in soul-mates.

Ramses	04 Mar 2002
Hey Amyel... I´m fine tonight...thanks...And you? well, I understand your confusion about soul mates and stuff...I don´t know if I believe in soul mates too...one of the reasons is that I think it´s unfair for all the souls in the world, that one soul in particular is already taken, etc...ops...I got confusing again...hehe...sorry...] I don´t know...maybe soul mates exist, maybe not..who knows...maybe it´s just our concept of a soul mate is wrong, or , maybe, our whole concept of spirituality and enlightment is all mistaken, or imcomplete...I don´t know...I´m just a mortal... But, anyway...it was great to hear from you again Amyel...thanks... LOVE, PEACE AND HARMONY TO YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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