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Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 07 Feb 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.



Mystick Dragon  07 Feb 2002 
I'm just wondering, how many of you know what your guides look like. I have two, most likely more, dragons that cover me. Lucky, an Air-subspecies, and Kip, a Fire. I have also been dreaming of a silvery black wolf lately. can any of you give me any advice?

--Dragon 


jade  07 Feb 2002 
dragon,

are you asking about animal guides then? you also have spirit guides (human like beings of light) and angels, a quardian angel, fairies and helpers.

:) aren't i helping alot here LOL.

what is it that you would like to know my friend.

in light,
jade 


Malachite  07 Feb 2002 
My first guide was a bearded old man, i think...that was the mental image i got from (his) energy, as it were, although I;m not sure if i actually visualised him...my visualising skills weren;t too hot back then :)...
Last time i went on a guided meditation, i was with a blue woman. which confused me first off, and I haven't yet worked out if it's a new guide, or a better/different visualisation...

For those of you who remember me pondering about totem animals/animal spirit guides....the crows are getting kind of freaky now....
It all started with a pair of crows, last autumn, and the numbers have been slowly building...
I came home from college today to see about a dozen crows (inexact number) standing on the roof of the house opposite...They dissappeared by the time I remembered to take a second look from my house though...
hmmm...

Malachite 


faunabay  07 Feb 2002 
Jewel,
You mentioned somewhere how we seem to be on the same wavelength lately......well I've recently been shown I have a angel/guide with long dark hair and sort of eqyptian looking eyes named.....JEWEL!!!!
:P :D :P :* :* :* :P :D :P 


Mystick Dragon  08 Feb 2002 
I'm just wondering if this wolf is a guide to me. Every night that I've seen it, I've woken up really tired, like I was never asleep. Also, my black dog is curled up next to me. NOTE: She looks like a small wolf, but she is Border collie X. The wolf doesn't look like her at all.

--Dragon 


cayacia  08 Feb 2002 
The one on my right is an older man with a beard. His name is Nicholas-the only Guides' name I actually know. My six minors I saw in a dream with him, they're all ancient looking blind men with *long* white beards. They all look the same but their personalities were all very different. I remember one being very snappy to me and another was really kind.

My divine has never shown theirself to me. I was recently told by my teacher (Josh) to pay attention to him and until I am given another name to call him Solace, the card he drew for that guide during the reading he was giving me (he was using the Fairy Oracle).

I have a friend who has been dreaming about dragons a lot. She was wondering if it was one of her totems. I think that it could be but I'm not one to say it is for sure.

And if I am ever unsure about something with my guides, Josh always tells me to just ask. Ask if the wolf is one of your guides. You'll know. 


jade  08 Feb 2002 
many times we are attracted to the same animals that are our animal guides in this life.

ask him, he'll know.

in light,
jade :) 


Scorpion  09 Feb 2002 
Hi, Dragon!

I don't know about animal guides, but I don't see why not - they would bring their own special characteristics to your assistance. I love wolves - I think of them as very independent and intelligent, sometimes solitary, beautiful animals. I also think you're extremely lucky to have dragons looking after you as they are extremely protective.

There is a photo of me at about 18 months old which shows three of my guides - a chinese mandarin, a gypsy and a nun: I don't see them as clearly as other people can. Apparently there should be four and many references have been made to the missing one until my former partner passed over four years ago and the first medium I saw after that commented that I now had my missing guide. Poor soul - he didn't believe there was anything after this life, so he must have got a double shock: probably thought he'd escaped me! 


Pollux  09 Feb 2002 
I'm completely mystified about guides!
I really know nothing of nothing but nothing! :(
But I'm happy you all have such special relationships.

How could I get to know which animal guides I have?
I read an article promoting a sort of meeting, saying that there was a special workshop with a Native Amreican Shaman, who would have helped the people participating to identify the first three (or something like that) animal guides.

However, I love cats. I like to think that my first animal guide is a cat. I even feel like I'm one!
They're playful, curious, sly, active, firey, but all the same contemplative, lazy when they like :), sensual, elegant, independent, adaptating...
And they must possess an occult knowledge... :-)
I seem to be sorrounded by cats, everywhere I go I find one.
Yes, I really like the idea of having a cat for guide. 


Lightlike  25 Jul 2002 
Night before last I had a series of weird dreams but I do remember one part where I was in a grassy area with a slightly hilly landscape and a brown owl walked past me. In the dream I mentally asked him if he was my animal guide and asked him if he was my guide to please walk past again...and he did. I can't remember seeing/talking with him after that because I started dreaming of something else.

I wish I knew if he was really my animal guide or if it was just a dream I had because I've been talking about spirit and animal guides. He seemed very friendly.

Any thoughts or suggestions? 


Laurel  25 Jul 2002 
My primary guide is the archangel Ariel, who also takes the form of a huge solar lion (a little like Aslan of CS Lewis) at times in my dreams and thoughts and rituals.

Laurel 


jema  25 Jul 2002 
many years ago i met my guide in a deep meditation. i didn't understand much or her then. she was a Deva. and she told me it wasn't really time for us to interact yet, i had to be patient and in due time i would learn a lot from her.
i thought a deva was really not what i wanted then. she was really powerful and full of beauty but not something i could connect to at all.

these days with a garden to tend to i think i understand her better.

i have many animal followers. i know them all really well.
there is a mouse called Flora (see, the plant world again) a polarbear called Major, an great horned owl called Athena.
and drifting in the outskirts of my life there is a caribou and an orca.
at one time of my life they have all given me the exact energy i needed to live through some pretty hard times.
these days i seldom "see" them.
i am more grounded now, more at ease with life and not as destructive. only Flora never left my side.
she was a "gift" of sorts to me when i was just a baby.
if i imagine her to be physical she would be tiny and white and sit in my lap.
as i move around the wheel i leave many things behind and right now i am on a strech of road i have to walk mainly alone.
the mouse is there and the owl when i call upon her. i found the owl in a "touching"
sort of a remote viewing. she was a trick:)
(a friend of mine calls me coyote robes because of her, i surprised her with my swooping down owl once when she tried to hide herself) the owl and the mouse - predator and prey - both help me in dreamwork too.

and i already said too much. 


tigerlily  25 Jul 2002 
I guess Bear is my totem - I had several powerful dreams, starting with one in which I freed a bear from his chain in a cellar/dungeon. In my latest bear dream I was guided by a huge white sow (Henwyn??? Definitely a Celtic totem) into the woods where I met a black bear who told me that we should be friends :) (In my dreams I am always afraid and have to be reassured ). Intuition tells me that Bear is my family's totem, too - a clan totem, if there is such a thing.

Lynx appeared once, as did a stag. But mostly it's Bear. I want to find a way to include all of them more in my life. 


Maan  25 Jul 2002 
My guide is a black panther ( see the gorgeous avatar Kayne made me :) )

And i think all cat's are my guides. When using my medicine cards the lynx appears in almost every reading and in my dreams. And when i meditate or do a visualisation there is always a cat somewhere. I think there the european representetives of the black panter ;) 


Phoenix  25 Jul 2002 
I have a phoenix for a guide. I don't know what she looks like, but I know that she is there. 


wavebreaker  25 Jul 2002 
I don't know, but I have an inexplicable fascination for sharks, so maybe the shark is my guide?

After some browsing on the internet I found this website that explains the wisdom of over 300 animals. Very interesting! 


Violet Gargoyle  25 Jul 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Lightlike
Night before last I had a series of weird dreams but I do remember one part where I was in a grassy area with a slightly hilly landscape and a brown owl walked past me. In the dream I mentally asked him if he was my animal guide and asked him if he was my guide to please walk past again...and he did. I can't remember seeing/talking with him after that because I started dreaming of something else.

I wish I knew if he was really my animal guide or if it was just a dream I had because I've been talking about spirit and animal guides. He seemed very friendly.

Any thoughts or suggestions?


Could be. Hard to tell with those dreams. The Owl is a symbol of Athena, and usually represents wisdom and/or seeing through to the true nature of people. So a guess is that either you got yourself a totem or there is something you need to learn.....or maybe both..... 


Mlle Lenormand  25 Jul 2002 
My understanding of guides (whether human, animal or angel etc) is that they are entities who show themselves in ways that are meaningful to us so that we can connect with them. Hence, different cultures see different things, but we all get the help we need from them.

I had a discussion recently about egyptian guides and was told that ancient egypt was a highly intuitive/psychic time and that connecting with an entity of this nature meant that you are developing these talents.

Also a guide who is blue is probably from the Lemuria or Atlantis era.

I've had different guides in different times of my life, currently I have a small, smiling Nepalese man who guides me on my path and a beautiful egyptian to help me with readings. the most surprising one was an ex-boyfriend (20 years ago) who committed suicide, who greeted me back into this work. It was good because I trusted him, and that's what he does now too. 


the hermit  25 Jul 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Pollux
I'm completely mystified about guides!
I really know nothing of nothing but nothing! :(
But I'm happy you all have such special relationships.

How could I get to know which animal guides I have?

Pollux:
Here's some resources about animal, spirit and totem guides--

Animal-Speak : The Spiritual & Magical Powers of Creatures Great & Small by Ted Andrews

How to Meet and Work with Spirit Guides by Ted Andrews

The Druid Animal Oracle : Working With the Sacred Animals of the Druid Tradition by Philip Carr-Gomm, Stephanie Carr-Gomm

Totems : The Transformative Power of Your Animal Totem by Brad Steiger

Celtic Totem Animals by Lorraine McDonald

Chinese Power Animals by Pamela Leigh Powers

I've read and enjoyed Ted Andrews' work. 


Lightlike  26 Jul 2002 
I have Ted Andrews' book called "How To Meet and Work With Your Spirit Guides" and although I think it's an interesting book it seems to be full of too many "must do's" and too many rules. What is your thought on this hermit? Do you have to do all of what he says to talk to your guides? I'm curious as to what you think.

Jessica 


the hermit  26 Jul 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Lightlike
I have Ted Andrews' book called "How To Meet and Work With Your Spirit Guides" and although I think it's an interesting book it seems to be full of too many "must do's" and too many rules. What is your thought on this hermit? Do you have to do all of what he says to talk to your guides? I'm curious as to what you think.

Jessica


He is a bit pushy at times about doing it 'his way'.
But he has lots of interesting ideas and advice (if you take it that way :) ).
Whenever any author (or person for that matter) starts telling me that one MUST do this or HAVE to follow that, then I just sort of smile to myself and do whatever I want to do.

That's probably why I've never stayed with a coven or grove for very long as most have way TOO many rules for me--though I realize that this is changing now.

Many authors seem to think that they must lay down a set of rules concerning whatever it is they've written about. Some do so because they feel that it just really HAS to be done the way they've written. Some though think it's a way to help less experienced folk learn the new stuff before exploring on their own, but they forget to make it clear in their writing.

But the best authors are the ones who explain the subject, give advice on as many POSSIBLE ways to accomplish the goal as they can, and then encourage the reader to explore.

As for your last question--does one have to follow HIS rules?
I didn't (well, I didn't and I did). I didn't even know about his rules over 40 years ago when I began interacting with animals and animal guides. But that doesn't mean that following his ‘rules’ won't work. They have for lots of people.

I read his book “Animal-Speak “ first because I was curious about what an ‘expert’ in the field had to say. Then a friend loaned me “The Druid Animal Oracle” by the Carr-Gomm’s because she knew of my interest. Another let me borrow “How to Meet and Work with Spirit Guides”. I found them all interesting. I found useful ‘suggestions’ :) in them all (things that I was already doing). If you’re interested, try out some of the techniques. If they work… GREAT. If they don’t… try something different. The best advice that they ALL give is to be open. 


oriel  26 Jul 2002 
my guide is a young boy. i used to dream about him regularly, now i have trouble remembering my dreams (stupid alarm clock!) but i can reach him by meditation.

he is very sad for some reason. :( 


amyel  26 Jul 2002 
Years ago, I went to a pyschic tarot reader who told me that I had three guides and they were all women - that I was named after one of them and the other two were "Evelyns" - she couldn't understand that comment, but I could: My father's mother was named Evelyn (she died when he was 8 ) and my step-mother was Evelyn (she wasn't dead at the time, but passed in '97 and I still feel her presence). The one I was named after was my mother's grandmother, who died when mom was 17 or 18. She pointed out that all my guides were female - to her, this was very significant. I'd never really considered guides before, but after it was pointed out to me, I really started to pay attention.

I feel the presence of my step-mom more so thenthe other two, but I suspect that it is because I never actually met the other two before. Somehow, it is comforting to know they are watching over me, though. 


wavebreaker  26 Jul 2002 
I was thinking about animal guides all this time, but I do know about one human guide I have. Like amyel, I was told about him by a psychic: it's my grandfather. He died in 1995 and I was very sad about that, because I hadn't seen him for a while when he died and I couldn't attend his funeral either. When I heard that he was with me, that was a big comfort to me and from then on, I wasn't sad any more. I talk to him every now and then and I sometimes ask him for guidance and he's always there when I need him. :) :) 


Mermaid  26 Jul 2002 
A few months ago I'd cast a circle in my room & was meditating, when I had a really clear image of a huge brown bear pop into my head. I had my eyes open at the time, but she/he seemed quite realistic (though I was quite aware at the time that there wasn't really a bear in my room ;)). He or she seemed to be rather amused at me, though very friendly. I wasn't quite sure what to make of it at the time, but maybe this was a guide? I haven't seen him/her/it since (and I don't often see things that aren't physically 'there' ;)).

Does anyone know how to tell if this was a guide, and how to contact them again if they are?

:confused: 


the hermit  27 Jul 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Mermaid
A few months ago I'd cast a circle in my room & was meditating, when I had a really clear image of a huge brown bear pop into my head. I had my eyes open at the time, but she/he seemed quite realistic (though I was quite aware at the time that there wasn't really a bear in my room ;)). He or she seemed to be rather amused at me, though very friendly. I wasn't quite sure what to make of it at the time, but maybe this was a guide? I haven't seen him/her/it since (and I don't often see things that aren't physically 'there' ;)).

Does anyone know how to tell if this was a guide, and how to contact them again if they are?

:confused:


These questions are a direct quote from "Animal Speak" by Ted Andrews to help you determine which animals might be guides in your life--

1. Has a specific creature or specific creatures, be it animal, bird, reptile, amphibian, insect or mythological beast, always fascinated you? We are drawn to that which most resonates with us. Those animals which fascinate us, or the ones that we fear the most have something to teach us. Animal guides are not always those that we have the most similarities with. Often they are in our lives to help us learn what we are lacking.

2. When you visit the zoo, which animal do you wish to visit first? This is especially true with children and this question is easy for them to answer since they are often more receptive than teens or adults.

3. What animal or animals do you see most frequently when you are out in nature? The animals we encounter in their city or wild environments have significance for us. We can learn from them about survival within their environment and often much more.

4. Of all the creatures, which are you most interested in now? Our interests in animals change. Yes, we usually have one or two that are lifetime power animals, but others become prominent in our lives when there is something of importance to learn from them.

5. Do any animals frighten you? That which we fear is often something we must learn to come to terms with. When we do that, the fears then become power. Some Shamans believe that fears will take the shape of animals, and only when we confront them without fear do their powers/medicine work for us instead of against us. Such an animal then becomes a shadow totem.

6. Have you ever been attacked or badly wounded by an animal? Historically, if a Shaman survived an attack, it was believed that the animal was the Shaman's spirit totem and the attack was the totem's way of testing the Shaman's ability to understand and handle its power.

7. Do you have dreams with animals in them or are there animal dreams you have never forgotten? This is especially important if the dreams are recurring or if a specific animal image keeps popping up in your dreams. Children often dream of animals and attention should be given to these animals. They will often reflect specific animal guides of the child or areas of weakness where the parents can help in their child's growth.

Numbers 1, 2, 3, 4 and 7 all apply to me.
#2 in particular is really interesting. I have very mixed feelings about zoos. I hate seeing anything caged, yet I know that in some cases without zoos certain species would probably already be extinct. It's also an oppurtunity to see animals that are otherwise VERY shy in the wild.

And remember that there are no rules... somethings work for one, but not another. Experiment, be open, listen to your heart as well as your mind.

By the way... Bears are very special to me... I hope they will be for you too!
In many belief systems bears stand for such things as:
healing, divinity, invulnerability, spirit helper, protection, introspection, truth, female receptive energy, prophesy, stamina, harmony, patience, defense, revenge, transformation, intuition, answers from the Dream World, benevolence, strength and bravery. 


RedWood  27 Jul 2002 
the hermit-- you said in one of your posts you used the Druid Animal Oracle..could you tell a little bit more about how you used..did you just go by the book or do what you wanted? I have that oracle, I have not used it yet....I have tried to see if I have a guide..it is not working..My dreams are different every night and for the life of me I can't meditate.. 


the hermit  27 Jul 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by RedWood
the hermit-- you said in one of your posts you used the Druid Animal Oracle..could you tell a little bit more about how you used..did you just go by the book or do what you wanted? I have that oracle, I have not used it yet....I have tried to see if I have a guide..it is not working..My dreams are different every night and for the life of me I can't meditate..

RedWood:
I have the Oracle, but only use it as a meditation tool. I bought the set because of the great artwork. Like Ted Andrews’ books, I found lots of interesting ideas and suggestions in the book, but I have not directly used any of the exercises or the spreads.

As for trying to discover your guide—I believe that everyone has guides—they come and go throughout our life but we don’t always hear or pay attention to them. Did you look at the questions in my previous post that I quoted from “Animal Speak”? And perhaps you’re trying a little too hard… to both find a guide… and to learn to meditate? And your changing dreams may be a sign of the same problem… too many thoughts, too many distractions, the desire to learn too quickly. You might want to try working on meditation first.

If I might suggest a few things?
Work on relaxing first. I can’t meditate if I’m not relaxed. And I think that meditation is just another stage of relaxation. Find a spot you like, a darkened room, a quiet spot under a tree, a pond or stream, somewhere you won’t be interrupted. A candle lit room with the soothing fragrance of incense or scented candles works for many. Perhaps with some soft music, instrumental or drumming or chanting, or a small tabletop water fountain… something that will be there without calling you attention too much.

Then close your eyes, start at your toes and think about relaxing each and every part of your body, bit by bit. Don’t worry if you fall asleep at first… that’s ok, because at least you relaxed. Be patient, keep trying different things. And remember that you’re trying to relax. Tell yourself that before you start. Make it the goal… to simply relax… let yourself drift… don’t think… feel your muscles, your bones.

When you feel relaxed, let your mind move to the music or drums or chanting or the sound of the water. What does it make you see? What does it make you feel? If you’ve thought about Andrews’ advice concerning animal guides try to think about what interests you… a bear, a fox, a badger, a falcon… whatever. Try to visualize them in your mind, floating with the music, drinking from the bubbling stream or spring, or moving to the beat of the drums or sniffing the scent of the incense or the fragrance of the candle. Think about them, but do your best not to force yourself with any of this. It’s hard, I know. But be patient. When it is supposed to come… it will. But you can’t make it until it’s ready.

Hope this is helpful. 


RedWood  27 Jul 2002 
hermit--yes thank you that is very helpful...I have tried the relaxing technique you mentioned about staring with you toes..It has not worked yet...I will try again though...You mentioned don't worry if you fall asleep..well my problem is I don't fall asleep easily and when I get half asleep I start to immediately dream..Then my dream wakes me up again..So it is trying to relax all over again... 


the hermit  28 Jul 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by RedWood
hermit--yes thank you that is very helpful...I have tried the relaxing technique you mentioned about staring with you toes..It has not worked yet...I will try again though...You mentioned don't worry if you fall asleep..well my problem is I don't fall asleep easily and when I get half asleep I start to immediately dream..Then my dream wakes me up again..So it is trying to relax all over again...


OK... then may I suggest something a little different.
You mentioned that you dream a lot and above you say you start to dream immediately... so have you tried to control the subject of your dreams?
Some can do this and some can't, but those that can say that by concentrating on a subject for a while before they try to relax or sleep allows them to sometimes dream about that subject...

So... is there a particular animal that interests you? Following the guide questions I posted from Ted Andrews' earlier, is there one or more that fit?
Is one of the Oracle cards interesting to you? Whatever the animal, read about it. Look it up online. What does it eat? Where is it common? What are it's habits? Perhaps, with some study, you can find out what your guide may be and in the process learn to channel the mental energy that seems to be interferring with your efforts at relaxation and meditation.

Also... have you looked at the relaxation techniques used in yoga or Tai Chi?
Is there a local adult class that you might be able to attend? Where I live, the community center has lots of 'self-improvement' classes like this for adults that might be able to help you relax and meditate. I'm part of a Yang family style Tai Chi study group (there are different styles that approach the philosophy and training in different ways) and the exercises are very helpful when I become overly stressed by life. They help me 'center'--that is, to come back to my own center and 're-ground' myself thus helping me to deal with life with less stress.

In the mean time... try to be patient... I know that's easy to say and hard to do... but try. 


RedWood  28 Jul 2002 
Thanks hermit..I will do all the questions and things tonight...Then I am going to post it...I can not take classes because of my son...I do go to the gym once a week...When you are on the bike..and thinking i wish this would end..I go into a relaxed state..Maybe i can do stuff there.. 


DarkElectric  28 Jul 2002 
I'm really lucky. I have a dear friend who teaches psychic opening
classes, and I got to take it for free. one of the things she taught
us was how to identify spirit guides. What she did was got us all
to relax, and when we were, had us call on whomever it was to please make themselves known to us, if it was an appropriate
thing to do. I did this, and was very surprised at who showed up.
A tall, older Greek gentleman wearing a white tunic. I don't know his name. He is very wise, and at times, quite pointed in his
observations. My former boyfriend actually offended him, when I
channeled this guide to ask advice that HE needed. When I got
the advice, my BF didn't like it and got rude about it, saying this
revered guide didn't have HIS best interests at heart. My guide
just left, 'POOF" and refused to come through if the BF were
around. He also guided me about him when BF was elsewhere,
and he was absolutely correct. BF is gone, and guide is back full time! There is also a native american shamanic couple. They are
powerful healers, and they come to me when I really need their help. I am sure they have actually saved my life. They have told
me the names they would like me to address them by. Snake
man and Wolf woman. Interestingly enough, the wolf and the
snake are two of my totem creatures. (I have several) Then
, there's a big brown and gold dragon who has decided to adopt
me. She is very old, and extremely beautiful. She didn't tell me
her name, but I asked if I could call her Dragonmum, and she
said it suited her, so, yes! This beautiful dragon protects me so
well, sometimes almost TOO well! Since I've realised her
presence, she has saved me from a lot of things that could have
turned out to be simply awful if allowed to happen. And she
protects me from bogus dudes now too! Sketchy guys I may have dated before, all of a sudden come clean and start babbling
about things that lead me to believe I would prefer a
relationship with...anybody else! I have also been told that our
guides change sometimes, when they have no more to teach us,
and a different one does. 


Mermaid  29 Jul 2002 
Thanks for the information Hermit! :) 


RedWood  29 Jul 2002 
hermit--I have read over your questions from Animal Speak..And for the life of me...None of them apply...I have been to the zoo once about 10 years ago..No animal at this time fascinates me..I like them all..I watch the Crocodile hunter and wild discovery and all of them are pretty interesting...Zack and Weezy from dragon tails are interesting..They have 2 heads lol..but that is a cartoon show my son loves..I don't think it counts..I like goats some..I used to love pigs as akid..just cuz they were cute. 


the hermit  29 Jul 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by RedWood
hermit--I have read over your questions from Animal Speak..And for the life of me...None of them apply...I have been to the zoo once about 10 years ago..No animal at this time fascinates me..I like them all..I watch the Crocodile hunter and wild discovery and all of them are pretty interesting...Zack and Weezy from dragon tails are interesting..They have 2 heads lol..but that is a cartoon show my son loves..I don't think it counts..I like goats some..I used to love pigs as akid..just cuz they were cute.

I think that right now you should simply practice some of the relaxation and meditation techniques that we already spoken of. Keep looking for what works for you. I believe that as you learn to 'slow' your mind down, relax and meditate, you'll find that whole new sets of doors will begin opening for you. Try not to worry too much about it right now. When the time is right things will move for you. Just try to relax and enjoy the ride for now. 


RedWood  29 Jul 2002 
Hermit..I think your right..i will stick with just trying to get my mind to take a breather..If and when i am ready..i know where to find you..hehe 


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