Psychic / Empath

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 30 Apr 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

kayne	30 Apr 2002
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between someone who is psychic compared to someone who is an empath? (Yes Phirefly, your post in New Members provoked this question :))

Liliana	30 Apr 2002
empath is knowing others feelings, psychic is knowing others thoughts or future events

destinyawaitsme	30 Apr 2002
mmm...in my opinion empaths are a type of psychic. Psychic to me is awareness of things beyond the physical realm. Here are some examples of other types of psychics Empaths - (aka feelers) feel emotions and sometimes physical pain of other people. The usually get nervous when something bad is supposed to happen...the feel the future. clairaudients - hear voices...sometimes get messages from spirit guides...you are outside alone and you hear "move" you do so and a tree branch falls down where you were standing clairvoyants - (seers) have visions...can see the future..or even present events...usually good with auras intuitives - They just know! Psychics can use all, a combination, or one of these to tell the future...I'm an empath, clairaudient, and intuitive, but I never have visions. so...a lot of people think that because they can't feel other people's emotions that they aren't psychic...these are all jsut different ways to end up witht he same result.

phirefly	30 Apr 2002
oooh, i like destinyawaitsme's definitions. i've been told what i am is clairvoyant, but i've never had visions, so i guess that puts me in the intuitive category. the whole just knowing thing is my creepiest feature. those definitions make a lot of sense, but i'm not sure about adding in that "future" bit. a lot of what i know is present stuff, though i've certainly had glimpses into the future. i think the psychic realm is open to past, present and future. some people may be more attuned to one area or another, but i don't think all psychics deal with the future. the empaths i know deal a lot in energy as well as emotion. they're a fun, if not sometimes overwhelming, group. they're not as good at tarot as i am, though, because a lot of what comes through for them is in emotions rather than anything that can be easily articulated. i've always dealt more with the head than the heart. though i am a bit empathetic too.

lunalafey	30 Apr 2002
Psychic is the umbrella word for things like, hearing voices with messages, dreams of the future, gut feeling, etc. destinyawaitsme put out there well... there is a bok called 'You Are Psychic!' written by an MIT scientist, Pete Sanders jr. just as we have five physical senses, we have four psychic reception areas. FEELING VISION HEARING INTUITION this is a GREAT book. He goes into where on our bodies these senses reside, examples of occurances, his psychic experiences...self healing, the soul...EVERYTHING... even a FAQ section.

destinyawaitsme	01 May 2002
I have that book!!! It was my first psychic book. It's really good if you aren't one of those mystikal magical people. He has a scientific approach to it and treats it just as if it were a sixth sense instead of the magical ESP that some refer to. I like his approach

Kiama	01 May 2002
Wow! I have a definition! I'm a mild Empath and Intuitive! Woohoo! :) :) Kiama

floracove	01 May 2002
Well I guess I am a major empath...I can feel others pain I do hear spirits...and I have future dreams My oldest can tell me who is calling or coming before I answer or they get here

Phoenix	01 May 2002
I'm an empath, and an intuitive. Also, I am a passive psychokinetic, I can passively manipulate energy with my mind.

Angel Star	07 May 2002
I agree with Destiny for short :) about being psychic in different ways, what you described are the 4 clairs. All are connect to psyhic abilitiy either your feeling,seeing,hearing or knowing or a combination of the 4. Most people have 2 dominate clairs. All clairs can be improved. I used to see more now I feel more. I am working on my seeing abilities more which come in thru dreams not necessary having a vision. Sometimes I am very empathic other time more knowing of things, or a combintion of the 4. Love and light to all.

Hush	11 May 2002
im a clairvoyant mild empath and im very intuitive. only a daily basis I'll pick up my phone, realise its not doing anything, put it down and then it starts ringing :rolleyes: hehe. i have a very empathic friend..its quite a problem. ive asked her about us doing a shield around her but she doesnt want to block the empath feelings. i tried to reason but nothing. its a toughie because she feels spirits, she feels where people have died, she feels what they have felt as theyve died, and she picks up emotions and pain from everyone. i have avery strong link with her so i am empathic with her, we give each other headaches on a regular basis :Rolleyes: hehe. i dream a lot about little things happening and then they do - though ive never had anything big. im still getting strong 0: ) i always wait for a feeling or a voice or vision, but i found a lot of the time its just knowing. reeling off information about past present and future events not knowing why or how i know.. always useful..heh...

Angel Star	11 May 2002
Your friend should really do some type of shielding as taking in too many feelings from places and people around you will soon become quite draining. I should know I have been an empath since puberty but never knew that that was what was the deal with me. You have to shut down sometimes or else you will sometimes pick up stuff you don't always want. It can start to affect your health also I have read about alot of psychic empathics who refuse to shield or shut down and their health suffers for it. Try picking up Psychic Protection by Ted Andrews. This is a very great book. :)

Jimilyn	11 May 2002
Angel Star has a good point. Also when your health begins to be affected, how effective can you truly be as an empath. Your energy is drained, you're more than likely vibrating at a lower energy level as well. Or at least I would think so. I was recently told that the gift of empathy is not meant for us to take on the feelings of others, but to notice that they are there and send love, light and healing energy to those in need. Please continue to encourage your friend to shield herself and when she notices the feelings and thoughts of others to just acknowledge them and send love, light, and healing...then release what she picked up on. Jimilyn

Hush	12 May 2002
yeah...im gonna talk to her about it, she gets knocked pretty hard by it sometimes but she really doesnt want to do any shielding. I'll see if i can convince her :) lotsa thanks for the concern.

Angel Star	12 May 2002
Your welcome I just know what it can do to you cause I used to be stubborn at times then get knocked down by it all and not feel well for a couple days. I actually became quite unbalanced from working with the Qabalah one time and forgot to ground and center properly just out of laziness and thinking I could handle it. Big mistake. Hope you can convince her. :)

Ravenswing	21 May 2002
hi all-- i'm basically the empath type-- a cancerian motherly thing-- which can have its big downside. i have finally, after 40-some years, found my vocation. i work in an adult day care center for people with demensia and altzhiemer's. for me this is an absolute wonderful experience that drains me and fills me all at once. in a way, i am these people's last stop before the nursing home or death (yes-- a few have died). i have discovered that a single touch can last forever, and that pain can always be transcended. i had initially thought that i should take the feelings and energies of others and personally transmute/transform/transcend them. this REALLY start me on a total burn out path. I finally got my ego under control and realized that i am a conduit. things now pass through me both up and down. there are still days where i come home exhausted, but it is a more joyous experience. isn't life beautiful? LVX steve

Angel Star	21 May 2002
I recommend to all empathics to read books about Psychic Protection by Ted Andrews and books on your aura and how to shield it while working with the ill. Sorry to say I don't know where some have the idea that they should take on others pain and feel burned out. This is working out of balance and will eventually take its tole. It is possible to feel others emotions but it should not be to the point that your health suffers or your energy levels are way down. Please try and read Your Aura & Your Chakras by Karla McLaren. I do readings for people alot and in no way would I want to take on all their problems and then feel burned out I won't be do readings very long I'll tell you that. I must protect myself from others energies to stay healthy so I can be there to do the readings for others who need them. For all that work with the ill or councilers that are empathics it is essential that you do what is necessary to stay healthy and balanced that way your well to help the needy alot more instead of feeling drained and burned out. :) Love and Light

Malachite	22 May 2002
wow...I can start a little tick-list!.. lets see...empath, check intuitive, check other....working on it, ok?!

starcrow	01 Jun 2002
Hello: I'm clairaudient, and would love to meet others that are. I don't like admitting it to some people, because they look at you like you're crazy, when you say you "hear" thoughts. They immediately pin you as hearing voices. I don't even know how it started, just when I started reading tarot, I paid more and more attention to my thoughts, and now it is strictly how I read the cards, and it always works. I have always wanted to hear in the physical, but that would probably freak me out too much if it was loud. I'm finally trying to learn the card meanings, so I can put it all together and get more information. Also, does anyone know of any books on Clairaudience? All I can ever find is bits and pieces. Thanks for any info. Kind Regards, Starcrow

HOLMES	01 Jun 2002
your are psychic by pete a. sanders. jr. in it he suggest do not try to hear with your own hears but your hearing chakras which are on the side of the head above your hears. i alwasy get headaches there .. probaly using my psychic ears too much as i listen to my favourite songs just to get good feelings and see in my mind images and beuty. he says when the energy is low the psyhic hear can be confusing as it can be heard as your own thoughts, hardest to develop 1.you can hear when someone is lying to you 2. you can get keyword mantras easily and there is a lot of information which i don't have the permission to tell you :O) but he reccomends sitting there with all the sounds turn off and focus on the psychic hearing centers, or putting on mediationg music and listen chanting om and listening.

starcrow	01 Jun 2002
Thank you Holmes: I completely understand what you are saying. That is how I "listen" It's too hard to explain, but I have this wierd thing where I have to look to the right, for some reason, in order to hear. I can't say it is a different voice, because it is not. It seems to be my voice. I do meditate, and when I go deeply, it's such an experience! It took me over 7 months to quiet my mind, but now it's not a problem. I will definitely have to check that book out. I really appreciate it! Kind Regards, Starcrow

Angel Star	10 Jun 2002
There are some good books by Doreen Virtue on all the clairs. Divine Guidance is one of her best books on how to work with all the 4 clairs and she gives alot of good exercises on all 4. How to fine tune them, how to get better at one that aren't as good as another claire. I think I worked so hard on clairvoyance that I knocked my clairaudience off and now I have to clean out my ear chakras big time cause I am not hearing so much lol! Balance is the key. :)

starcrow	10 Jun 2002
Thanks Angelstar! I will definitely get that book. Did it help you for clairvoyance? I guess what I want to do is hear more in the physical, but it is pretty scary. I've heard like that just a couple of times, and it was so unexpected, it was LOUD! I appreciate the book recommendation. It sounds familiar, so I think I must have read other books by that author, but it was a long time ago. Have a great day! Kind Regards, Starcrow

Angel Star	10 Jun 2002
I own almost all of her books and like 4 audiocassettes by her. Her books came into my life at a very hard time. My son was diagosed with autism late in the year of 99 and my husband was going thru alot of emotional issues. I can't tell you how helpful all her books have been for me. The ones that are my favorite are Healing with the Angels and Divine Guidance they just happened to cross my path at the most difficult times. She also has 3 decks of oracle cards-Healing with the Angels,Healing with the Fairies and her latest Messages from your Angels. These cards are great if your not in the mood for the traditonal tarot readings.

starcrow	10 Jun 2002
Aw, Angelstar, I'm so sorry, but I'm so glad those books helped you, it was probably meant to be. Now, I remember, I have those oracle decks, but I gave one away. I like to use them from time to time, you're right, they are a great alternative to tarot. I always did like the oracle decks. How is your child doing? I have worked with autism before, and they are such bright, loving children! I still cherish the artwork from one girl, she was very gifted.

starcrow	10 Jun 2002
Hi Angelstar: I hope you didn't misunderstand me, I meant the books were meant to be as far as helping you, not about your son? I don't say things right sometimes. I bet your son has enriched your life on some level though, right? Has it gotten easier for you? I sure hope so. Anytime you ever want to talk, I'm available. I'm out of work right now, so it's nice to be home for once. Do you like to meditate? I love it, but have to seriously get back into it. I've slacked off alittle. Well, talk to you later! Kind Regards, Starcrow

Angel Star	10 Jun 2002
Oh Starcrow I took no offense I was just trying to relay how helpful the books were to me during crisis in my life. I love my son dearly and wouldn't trade him in for the world ever! He has enriched my life and helps me to appreciate seeing all children differently. Some parents I see so often taking for granted their child is talking since my son is still not very verbal though he makes all kinds of vowels sounds and is quite loud when he wants to be and is also learning to sign. Actually if I wasn't so empathetic how could I even relate to my child. It is not a tradegy that he is autistic. I posted a thread maybe you would like to reply to called-Autism and Psychic Abilities. That whole thread is about him lol! Take care.

starcrow	10 Jun 2002
Oh Angel Star: Thanks, I worry about being taken the wrong way sometimes. You sound like such a wonderful mother. I will have to go read the section you are talking about. Talk to you later! Kind Regards, Starcrow

Angel Star	10 Jun 2002
I don't know if I am so wonderful all the time lol but I try my best. I think its a karmic thang ya know cause I always had no patience and having an autistic child makes me have patience thanks for you post :)

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