Casting a Tarot binding on the sniper

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 09 Oct 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Liliana	09 Oct 2002
In Tarot Spells Jaina Renee has a spell for binding the actions of a malicious person and one for putting right the actions of a malicious person. I was thinking that doing such a spell on the sniper might be effective, especially now that he has dragged tarot into it. The first spell uses a significator, casting it using Death as the significator might be particularly effective. Of course before doing any such thing Id ask the cards their opinion on whether it should be done, but I was wondering what others opinions are? :THP

napaea	09 Oct 2002
i think this is a great idea, especially if several people joined in. keep me updated on the development of this idea...

ChrisTheObscure	09 Oct 2002
Would you mind posting that spread or shedding more insight? I'd LOVE to do this. C.

faunabay	09 Oct 2002
I'd be up for it! But I do think it'd be a good idea to ask the cards about it first! I think that's a great idea though, Liliana!! :) Let us know what your cards say.

Pollux	09 Oct 2002
I'm in too. I am willing to help out and give a hand. And i am sure my Cosmic will be "happy". I am waiting for updates as well. Please, post what we need to do. Should we work it out at the same time? I could do it anytime, so just tell me. Is Liliana going to read for the cards' advice?

DarkElectric	09 Oct 2002
If anybody does anything like this, I think the objective should be this person getting caught and brought to justice. Since sometimes a binding works to stop the act, if we were to bind him, and he just decided to stop, and was never apprehended, what would that accomplish? I think this guy needs to face the cops. And the victims and their families. And the criminal justice system. So, how should we go about this?

zorya	09 Oct 2002
perhaps something more on the lines of clarity (so he may be found) and justice.

Phoenix	09 Oct 2002
I have plenty of "return to sender" spells, as well as spells to bind. I also planned to do something on this as well. I have a "Chant to Hecate for Justice" spell that might work.....if I keep in mind that I want this bastard caught, then it should work that way.

MystiqueMoonlight	09 Oct 2002
Quote: Originally posted by DarkElectric If anybody does anything like this, I think the objective should be this person getting caught and brought to justice. Since sometimes a binding works to stop the act, if we were to bind him, and he just decided to stop, and was never apprehended, what would that accomplish? I think this guy needs to face the cops. And the victims and their families. And the criminal justice system. So, how should we go about this? I think this is an excellent idea! We must approach this with caution though remembering that the sniper must be brought to justice....

Indigo	09 Oct 2002
Perhaps if we sent him/her enough spiritual "static" that he/she slips up and makes a mistake. Maybe we could focus on sending back the chaos and confusion that they have caused. On the flip side, sending clarity and mental acuity to the investigators may also be appropriate, as well as comfort to the victims' families. Whatever's decided, count me in.

Faerie Lin	09 Oct 2002
I am DEFINATELY in!!! I'll be checking this thread periodically too see whats up... lin

Thirteen	09 Oct 2002
Yo! I'm all for this. My only thought: as this monster has obnoxiously announced "I am God!"--I think the signifier should be "The Devil"--which is what he really is, causing chaos and mischief to sake his own twisted ego. And why, after all, give him the "Death" card? He thinks it means "Death" which he controls. Let's take that away from him (I rather think the card would be insulted by the association)--and use it for our purposes--as a card to put a STOP to him! I don't know how many cards are in this spread, but also vote to include: Justice (of course) The Emperor (for authority) The Hierophant (for morality) Strength (overcoming the beast) And, as has been suggested, The Sun to shed light on it all. Those are my thoughts. Ready to go whenever the spread is posted.

Teranar	09 Oct 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Indigo Perhaps if we sent him/her enough spiritual "static" that he/she slips up and makes a mistake. Maybe we could focus on sending back the chaos and confusion that they have caused. I have a dance spell that does just that! We should all cast the binding and other spells and energy at the same time, has a greater impact. (At least that's from my experience) Here's when I say we do: Its impossible for EVERYONE to do it at the same time (Time zone differences) I say on Friday at 8 Eastern US, 7 Central US, 6 Mountain, 5 Pacific All americans do a collective spell to flush him out, And at 6 U.K time, 7 for the time zone east, and so on everyone in that part of the world who's on hits him again. THEN if he isin't flushed out he's probably got some protection.

ladycj	10 Oct 2002
I'm in too.

Scorpion	10 Oct 2002
Count me in! I think I'm going to start building up by sending out some energies tonight when I head off to meditate - can't hurt to start to turn the heat up. I agree with Thirteen: if it's the sniper who's leaving the cards they ought to get a firm message that they are not going to control things. I definitely want Justice in there - the nearest thing I can think of to the archetypal Avenger, but totally judicial, fair and unbiased. How about the World for bringing things to completion and closing this dreadful chapter? And the Star to give those who've lost loved ones some hope that there is an answer? If Death is change you can control - let's turn the tables and send the perp the kind of Tower changes that will see the authorities taking control of the situation.

WhiteDrag0n	10 Oct 2002
Count me in.

Pollux	10 Oct 2002
An hour ago I heard the news updates. It is so frustrating and annoying!!! I had to take a conference with my parents last night, and it was so humiliating! I spent a while trying to cast off dirty energies, and soon I'll get my stuff prepared for it. I don't have stuff with me, no candles nor anything. I think I'll just use a spread for work, and my black cloth. In the spread I love the ideas of Devil, Justice, Emperor, Sun, and Star for the victims. And World to conclude. Could you please post the spread soon? I might not be able to check the boards again till tomorrow after the working, and therefore be forced to make up something myself. Anyway, I'll think of you all!!! 7pm to me is ok, better still, perfect! Some thoughts to add to the Waxing Moon? Light be shed on this. So Mote it be.

Liliana	11 Oct 2002
Tarot Spells already has the cards chosen, but anyne can feel free to make up their own spread to use. Ill post the spell here, it is copyrighted fromt he book Tarot Spells by Janina Renee To restrain the actions of a malicious person *************Justice 2 of swords*Significator*8 of swords *************Hanged Man The significator should represent the the adversary (the sniper) the 2 of swords, hanged man, and 8 of swords shhow him plagued by indecision unable to move, forced to give up his malicious plans. Justice represents the intervention of the goverment (the spell originally has temeperance here to represent self restrain, but says after if the intervention of law is needed use justice, if the intervention of government is needed use emperor) according to the book, also needed is a jar and a slip of paper with the persons name (tarot snier would work), I feel the ritual would still work well without this step but you can do it if you wish MEDITATION AND VISUALIZATION Set the signifcator in place, thinking of the problem causer. Pick up the slip of paper while you think of him, you can place it on top of the significator if its small enough Next, in quick succession, lay the 8 of swrods to the right of the significator, hanged man below the significator, 2 of swrds to the left of the significator,, and justice above. Imediately after placing the cards take your hands and make a clockwise circle over the layout, starting at the 8 of swords. Continue to make the circular motion imagining power flowing from your hands and building a circle of power around these cards. As you do so look at the symbolism on each card and envision the adversary being bound, blocked, confined, and contained by the qualities of these cards When you feel you have put enough energy into the motions and visualizations, place the paper in the jar and seal it tightly Now recite carefully and with as much feeling as piossible recite the following affirmation AFFIRMATION "(subject) is bound (subject) is blocked (subject) is confined (subject) is unable to move (subject) can do no harm Any negative energies that (subject) sends out will be deflected back on him (subject) will stew in his own juices until he learns to do only good deeds and send out only positive energy So it is, and so shall it be!" She then says to put the jar safely away, and when the proble, is resolved the paper can be taken out and carefully disposed of. It also says to cleanse the significator by bathing it in the sunlight for a few moments. :THP 8 pm tionight it probably good for me, Ill try and do it then

napaea	11 Oct 2002
What a good day for this! : the moon is in Capricorn, a good time to set boundaries and establish rules (which he needs)! thanks for sharing this spell, Lilliana. i just suggest that everyone who is going to participate surround themselves, and the rest of us at AT participating, in love and light energy for protection as we do this. and that we all concentrate on justice being served, and not on harm coming to this person, but just that he be bound and caught. if we don't use the jar, does anyone have suggestions for what we could do to get rid of the paper, and then dispel the energy raised?

napaea	11 Oct 2002
also, i was thinking of doing another spell tonight. with this being such intense energy regarding the sniper, what do you all think about doing another spell? will there be any contraindications, or do you think it's ok to do both?

Scorpion	11 Oct 2002
For those of you who may not have seen it, I've just copied this from AOL news. Although the news is tragic, it does hold a bit of hope:- "A MAN has died after a shooting at a petrol station in Fredericksburg, Virginia. It's in an area where a sniper has already killed seven people. There are also unconfirmed reports that officers are in pursuit of a white van. Witnesses reported seeing a white van leaving the area of two of the previous shootings. Seven people have been killed and two wounded since the sniper attacks began on October 2. Police have closed a nearby motorway. It is not clear if the shooting near Fredericksburg is linked to the other attacks in the Washington area. The victim was seriously wounded, according to officials. Police closed down parts of nearby Interstate 95 and are stopping white vans there and on other roads in the areas." I suggest we all concentrate VERY hard to help!

Teal	11 Oct 2002
I haven't seen on TV that they're in pursuit of a white van, but I don't have cable and our local channels may just not be aware of or broadcasting it. I hope they're going to catch this person quick. It's terrible for people to be afraid to even go out of their homes.

Liliana	11 Oct 2002
The man was from Pennsylvania, I heard that they caught up with the white van but the people inside were not the sniper, and they had a good reason for acting like they did. :THP

Scorpion	11 Oct 2002
Well, it's coming up to 6pm here in the UK as was suggested. Unfortunately I have to go off and make tea and my stepsons will be over so I won't be able to fully participate in the proposed session, but I'm taking the spell and a deck with me into the kitchen and try to keep it out of the food preparation! If it's true they're chasing a van, perhaps it can be blocked by puncturing a tyre/destroying the head gasket?! I'm game for anything that will stop this sniper.

DarkElectric	11 Oct 2002
Count me in, people. Just let me know what time, date, etc, and what I can do is lend my energy to help power this thing. It works well for me if I'm online with other people. That way I can focus it, and send it through.

Scorpion	11 Oct 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Liliana The man was from Pennsylvania, I heard that they caught up with the white van but the people inside were not the sniper, and they had a good reason for acting like they did. Liliana - is this today's victim? This just reminded me of one of the earlier ones. According to the news on the TV just now, the roadblocks are still up and they're stopping every white van they can find. I note that the President has now made a statement that all the government resources available are going to be ploughed into it. As I'd already used the spell with Justice in I added the Emperor as well when I heard that. As I didn't have the paper and glass, I ended the ritual by turning all of the cards onto my significator to contain it (I decided in the end to use Death in the hope that there is a connection with that card and to give Death the chance to get its own back for such misuse) and put the Emperor behind it to totally confine it. How's everybody else doing?

MystiqueMoonlight	11 Oct 2002
I'll be casting the spell tonight....I hope that's in sinc with everyone else....

ladycj	11 Oct 2002
To properly dispose of the slip of paper, you can either burn it, or bury it. I suggest burning as a sign of his plans going up in flames.

Liliana	11 Oct 2002
actuallyu that wasnt todays victum, i think that was yesterday or the day before, my bad :THP

napaea	11 Oct 2002
well, i did the spell. Glad i was doing it with all you guys, i probably would have felt vulnerable just by myself for some reason. i actually decided to write the name (tarot sniper) on a cracker. after the spell i went outside and stomped on it, saying that the he was stamped out by the foot of the authorities. then i swept him up and buried him in the dirt and leaves. hope we hear good results from this, and hope you all take care of yourselves tonight for putting yourselves out there in this! blessings on you all!

Indigo	12 Oct 2002
I used the Rohrig Tarot for my spellwork. I started at 8:30 pm Eastern (US) Daylight Time. I used the Devil and 9 of Swords (Cruelty) as the sniper's significators, then laid out the following around him: 5 Disks (Worry); 7 Disks (Failure); 8 Cups (Indolence); 8 Swords (Interference); and The Tower. Then I lit a pair of black candles, and I'm now letting them burn down. My intention is to send as much confusion and chaos to the sniper as I can, so that he slips up and gets caught. I chose the Rohrig because it has some delightfully murky and chaotic scenes.

ladycj	12 Oct 2002
Has anyone done a spread to see if all of us doing the spell is working? Just wondering. Maybe a prediction of the results?

Liliana	12 Oct 2002
I did the spell I posted using Death as significator, but didnt do the jar part as i felt casting the circle of confusion was enough, using the Adrian Tarot, and it was done around 9:30 PM last night :THP

ladycj	12 Oct 2002
I did the binding at 4:30 pm PST, I used Death as significator, and added the tower crossing so that he would really slip up and be caught.

napaea	14 Oct 2002
i used the Vampire deck. thought that pretty appropriate!

Teal	14 Oct 2002
Well, it would seem that those readings indicating a woman's involvement in the sniper case may have been right, since a man they're questioning now was shot by a "woman scorned", to quote the news commentator. Do you think the binding spells worked? Let's all cross our fingers that they're holding the right man. So far, it looks pretty likely, but of course there's a lot of investigating to be done.

Liliana	15 Oct 2002
Well it hasnt worked yet, but spells take time to materialise unfortunately. :THP

Rhiannon	15 Oct 2002
Thanks to all of you who have done this. I appreciate it, and I'm sure others around my area do as well. I just did not have enough energy after being sick for 2 weeks to participate. I've posted an update in the Sniper thread over in Talking Tarot. Sorry to say, he's struck again. R :)

Angel Star	15 Oct 2002
I agree Indigo. A binding that would make the person do something stupid to get caught is very accurate. I saw something like that on Unsolved Mysteries. This guy killed a woman and they brought in the local towns witch who was very respected where she lived. She did a binding so that he would do something dumb and get caught. What happened was that he stayed in a cabin that belonged to someone else and it was being watched by neighbors and they saw him going in. He stayed for like 2 days the cops were called and he got caught! I have many binding spells but I need to think further on doing this type of spell myself.

Liliana	16 Oct 2002
No problem Rhiannon, I dont like loss of innocent life at all, but I defiantely have to protect you too, and those kids of yours. :) :THP

Scorpion	16 Oct 2002
I second that Liliana! I'm just hoping that he's overstepped the mark now - whether it's because he feels invulnerable or because something in him wants to get caught and punished: I don't mind as long as the result is the same. Like a lot of the others who've done a spread on this, I feel he intends to go out in a blaze of "glory". Teal - I haven't managed to find a report on any suspects being interviewed. What were they saying?

Angel Star	16 Oct 2002
I like using 7 day vigils and St. Michael seems more than appropirate to bring this guy down it is now 11:00 a.m. pacific time where I live I will light candle around noon. I have use this Saint with much success in others areas of negative people and putting a stop to whatever it is they are doing to calling on him to stop negative spirits. I believe this will help much. Take care all.

Major Tom	17 Oct 2002
I must admit I'm a bit appalled that no one posted a tarot reading answering the question: What will happen if we perform a spell to bind the sniper into capture and justice? Here's a three card spread I layed using the Spiral asking the question what will happen if I cast a spell to bind the sniper into capture and justice? 1. King of Cups. 2. Ace of Wands. 3. Seven of Swords. I clearly see me exerting my effort to bind the sniper and, as a result, he gets away. You'll forgive me if I've decided not to do this thing?

Scorpion	17 Oct 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom I must admit I'm a bit appalled that no one posted a tarot reading answering the question: What will happen if we perform a spell to bind the sniper into capture and justice? You'll forgive me if I've decided not to do this thing? Fine by me, Major! I must admit it hadn't occurred to me to do a pre-reading but I've done one now with the Olympus (the same deck I used to see what insights I could get on the sniper in the first place) and I got:- 2 Pentacles (Icarius flying into the sun) 3 Chalices (A Delphian priestess preparing to divine) 5 Chalices (Deadalus designing the Labyrinth to contain the Minotaur) I am finding that I use imagery more than the traditional meanings more and more, so I have applied that here. I see the first card as representing the sniper, the priestess as those who are doing the binding and Deadalus as the authorities - so I'd say we're doing our bit to help: hopefully give him a helping hand into the sun so his wings melt faster!

Major Tom	17 Oct 2002
Quote: Originally posted by LouiQ I must admit it hadn't occurred to me to do a pre-reading It didn't occur to anyone (with one or two exceptions) and that's what has appalled me. Quote: Originally posted by LouiQ 2 Pentacles (Icarius flying into the sun) 3 Chalices (A Delphian priestess preparing to divine) 5 Chalices (Deadalus designing the Labyrinth to contain the Minotaur) [/b] I see your reading a bit differently: Trying to decide what's do be done with the situation - weighing up the options - asking yourself what can I do about this? Taking action in the form of a spell to bind - celebrating the idea that there's action we can take. The sniper escaping into a preplanned maze - the sniper gets away utilising a preplanned escape route leaving something he values behind or the sniper being killed in a shoot out. Or perhaps you will come to regret your actions. Please, Please Everyone! You should always consider your actions before you cast any spell! The best way to keep yourself informed of the consequences of any spell you're considering casting is to do a reading about it first!

DarkElectric	17 Oct 2002
Well, the killer has had some slipups. The last shooting, there were witnesses, and the cops have new information they aren't divulging. As well as the fact that the last victim was an employee of the FBI... There's a break in the pattern too...no one has been killed since the last poor lady in the car park. Something is happening, either they took someone into custody, and it's the shooter, or there are enough concise leads to at least get the killer to stop.

Scorpion	17 Oct 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Major Tom I see your reading a bit differently: Trying to decide what's do be done with the situation - weighing up the options - asking yourself what can I do about this? Taking action in the form of a spell to bind - celebrating the idea that there's action we can take. The sniper escaping into a preplanned maze - the sniper gets away utilising a preplanned escape route leaving something he values behind or the sniper being killed in a shoot out. Or perhaps you will come to regret your actions. Maybe, Major, but this deck doesn't seem to conform to RW interpretations (is it based on the Thoth deck - I'm not particularly familiar with that one): 2 Pentacles is specifically "Vanity" (the sniper's I hope, not mine! - I think he's the one flying in the face of the sun believing himself immortal), 3 Cups is "Divining" - so yes, I can see that, while 5 Cups has the keyword "Device". While the sniper has managed to escape in an apparent labryinth, I think the appearance of Daedalus is promising - the only person to know all the Labryinth's twists and turns apart from its resident. Daedalus built the Labryinth specifically to contain a monster, to protect the people of Crete. Whatever the sniper's warped thinking, I can't see how he can claim to "save" or "protect" anybody. Daedalus was the cleverest man of his day and consequently held a position of authority in the land. Ideally, there'd turn out to be a very special law enforcer who could produce the solution but I guess it's more likely to take all their combined talents, given the scale of the task. Maybe they'll have someone gifted at the forefront. As for regretting my actions - I hope not. In my spell I am aiming to stop him without further loss of life, not coax him into higher and higher profile shootings until he can't fail to draw attention to himself and die in a shoot-out. Yes, I think he wants to "go out in glory" as so many of them do - but I'm not responsible for putting that idea in his head. Mind you, maybe doing the spell is responsible for my current gallbladder infection that's just about crippling me at the moment! Seriously though, Major, I think the intention is valid and I know if it was one of my family or friends on the receiving end I would want as much help on any level to prevent a repeat.

Scorpion	17 Oct 2002
Quote: Originally posted by DarkElectric There's a break in the pattern too... DarkElectric, I noticed that, but Angel Star mentioned to me in a totally unconnected way that there was some sort of public holiday, Columbus Day? Being a mere Brit, I have no idea of timelines and whether the last victim was shot on that day or whether he took it as holiday - which would bolster the theory that he regards what he's doing as a "job". Or maybe he freaked when he stopped to consider what a risk he took? More likely to my thinking is that if he does have a driver, the latter is more likely to have panicked: this may not be what he had in mind when they first came up with the idea. After all, they have been very careful not to get caught.

Liliana	17 Oct 2002
I did a reading Major, as you know I posted about doing a reding, but didnt post it here I got 1.The World 2. Judgement 3. The Sun So to me this was a good enough sign of the success of the spell. :THP

Major Tom	18 Oct 2002
LouiQ - I do hope I didn't come across as offensive. I can get that way when I feel strongly about something. :) I am glad that you are positive about your actions. Let there be no mistake: I want to see this man stopped immediately. Liliana - Those could have been the cards for the spread to work the spell. })

Phoenix	18 Oct 2002
Well I did a binding on him last night. Actually I went a step futher, and called upon the dragons of Chaos and Destruction. Hopefully this will help.

DarkElectric	18 Oct 2002
LouiQ, Yes, We did have a public holisay, Columbus day. The killer took a long weekend, which may mean several things: He is in the sort of job where he got the day off. The only things which are closed on Columbus day, are Schools, Banks, Government offices. Doctors and dentists take it off too, (although most nurses, hospitals, and clinic staff stay on the job.) There is no mail delivery (another disgruntled postal worker?). Mostly everyone else would have to go in to work. That leaves trades people, customer service, retail, most non government/state offices, and restaurants. For some reason, I keep seeing this guy as some kind of custodian, in a school, or Government building. And someone like that would get to take the holiday.

Angel Star	22 Oct 2002
I think the intention of everyone here is well and good that this person should be stopped period! You can throw down all the cards you want and from what I am reading no 2 readings have been the same when it comes to this sniper at all! The important point here is the intent to stop the sniper. I feel that a reading is appropriate if your having second thought about doing a binding. I did not do a binding I did a petition. I am sure interested when I thrown down some cards tonight to see what I come up with. There seem to be a very wide few on this situation.

Angel Star	22 Oct 2002
Sorry typo a very wide view lol Take care all and good luck!

Angel Star	23 Oct 2002
Ok I threw down some cards last night and this is what showed up: 1st the Devil 2nd 7 of Cups 3rd Queen of Cups The Devil represents to me that he is bound to a way of life he does not enjoy and also that the bindings we are doing are coming into the picture. 7 of cups he is obviously confused and has alot of options to choose from at the moment and is not sure what he is going to do next. Queen of cups possibly substance abuse or his emotions have turned in on himself. Again these are my interpretation no 2 interpretation will be the same. That Devil card sure speaks for itself though.

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