essential oils..where can I find them

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 08 Oct 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

cjtarot	08 Oct 2002
Hi all, I am probably in the wrong section..but...I want to make bath salts, mix oils and soaps for spiritual purposes... I am hoping someone will be able to connect me with an essential oil company that sells wholesale or is reasonable.. and by the way, what do you think of the idea of a bath salt to aid in protection or help strengthen your connection with your personal energy, Thanks for the help Cj

faunabay	08 Oct 2002
Quote: I think this a GREAT way to use oils. Bath Salts with good essential oils are a wonderful way to do alot of things. Of course you need to actually take your time in the bath though! LOL Not just the 5 minute thing most people do in the mornings. :D I absolutely love essential oils! I work with them alot!!!! Can't say enough good about using them, but the one tip I'd give is to make sure you get the good ones. I know there are cheap oils out there, but they're usually synthetic and have no uses in spiritual work. They just smell good - well some of them. LOL In the aromatherapy classes I teach I actually bring in synthetics and let the people smell side by side comparisons and they're shocked how easy it is to tell the difference. People now a days are so used to synthetic things they forget how much better the real thing is!! :D So I tell people it's MUCH better to get one pure oil, than to buy 5 synthetic ones.

napaea	08 Oct 2002
Faunabay: can you give any opinion on these brands? NOW Aura Cacia Sunshine Nature's Alchemy aroma vera these are some brands we sold at the health food store i worked for. i don't know the quality, just know that they claimed to be fresh and decent. i think there were some others...just wondered what you thought about them.

Umbrae	08 Oct 2002
http://www.youngliving.us/ The good stuff. I personally highly recommend them. I will try to find an order e-mail address for you.

faunabay	08 Oct 2002
napaea, The only ones from your list that I personally know about are the aroma vera and the aura cacia. I've seen the Nature's alchemy, but have never smelled or used them so can't comment. And have just never heard of the Sunshine or NOW brands. -- completely IMO -- the aroma vera and aura cacia are OK oils, but not great. Realize that there can be oils that are completely pure, natural oils, but still be a lower quality because they use the part of the plant that has the least amount of smellyness! :) Again IMO I think that's what these two brands. From what I remember they are pure oils, but not the best, but also not bad (synthetic) oils either.

faunabay	08 Oct 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Umbrae http://www.youngliving.us/ The good stuff. I personally highly recommend them. I will try to find an order e-mail address for you. I have friends that use these oils and absolutely swear by them. So you're in good company umbrae. :) BUT.....I don't like them. They're too strong for me. They just permeate the whole building when you use them. I've actually had to air out my massage office (6 room office :) ) one time when a client brought in a bottle of young living massage oil and had me use it! Even after the airing out I had a couple of clients complain about it hours later. Remember I have some friends who love these oils (and I respect their opinions very much) so this is completely my own thoughts. But also I find it hard to believe such strong smelling oils can be 100% pure! Now don't get all twitchy! LOL I realize there are some oils that are very strong smelling, but not all of them! AND remember this is completely my own opinion!!! :) AND I don't like the way you have to go through someone who's signed up as a sales person to get their oils. I don't like not being able to just buy their oils myself. Now I haven't even been around any of their oils for quite a while, so they may have changed this practice (I hope so).

Umbrae	09 Oct 2002
A little bit goes a long ways...mix it...massage it into your whole body? (LOL-ROFLMAO)...

ladycj	09 Oct 2002
I love the idea of working with essential oils. I do use different perfumes for differnt rituals, but I would love to mix my own. Does anyone recommend any good books to study?

cjtarot	09 Oct 2002
Hi all, The book I use is Scott Cunningham's "The complete book of incense, oils and brews". I was able to find Aura Casia oil in a local store. I will be buying oils on line next. My creation is "Magick Moon Drops"..the first scent is "Clearly".. it is Lavender, Rosemary and Peppermint... Sound OK... Hate to say it..I'm not crazy about the smell..but when I put it in the bath it was WONDERFUL... Thanks for the advise, Cj

catlin	09 Oct 2002
Concerning bath salts: I create my own ones using either the pinkish Himalayan stone salt or sea salt combined with dried herbs and/or flower petals. My Love Salt is really high in demand!

la_huesera	09 Oct 2002
I create my own bathsalts, Hair rinses, shower lotions, etc and out of experience it is best to use high quality essential oils (and home grown herbs). It really makes a very big difference. For the spiritual use of Herbs Scott Cunningham's book "The complete book of incense, oils and brews" is a good start and reference. But for the use of oils/ herbs in bath salts etc I would recommend that you have a good aromotherapy book handy so you can check for any contraindications. Blessings, Mareike

faunabay	09 Oct 2002
I do most of my mixing intuitively, but I already pretty much know which oils shouldn't be used for certain contraindications. Let's see, some of my favorite aromatherapy books are: Aromatherapy for Healing the Spirit by Gabriel Mojay The Fragrant Heavens by Valerie Ann Worwood Those are my two favorites but then Aromatherapy Workbook by Marcel Lavabre isn't bad either. And after saying all that about Young Living oils :) I do have to say they have a good book for the oils too: LOL PDR (Peoples Desk Reference) for essential oils But I had to get this through a friend. You can just go out and buy it at a bookstore.

purplelady	09 Oct 2002
A question for Faunabay or anyone who really knows: Is there some easy way I can really KNOW if the oil is real, pure, or synthetic? About all I know of essential oils is that I have some on my shelf that smell good, and I have some books but I haven't really read much beyond which oil should be used for what ritual etc. So , let's say I go into my local store , or even order online - is there any way to know beyond what the salesperson may say ? I suppose not having really sampled each side by side I wouldn't know?

faunabay	10 Oct 2002
purplelady, There really isn't a sure fire way. You have to rely on your own senses! the best way I've found is to do side by side comparisons a couple of times. Then it kind of sinks in to your brain. :D It really is interesting how people can smell the synthetic oils all day long and like them, but give them a natural oil for a side by side comparison and they cring when they smell the synthetic!! Once you do the side by side thing a couple of times you really can begin to tell the difference. Now when you're talking about telling the difference between the lower and higher quality of pure essential oils it's more difficult. But that also is beginning to split hairs unless you're VERY into the completely natural, spiritual uses! One thing to keep in mind also is that which ever brand/quality/etc you use for the first couple of times is what your brain thinks is best. If that makes any sense. :D As an example - say you've been using a lower quality Rosemary for quite a while, not realizing it was lower quality. Well by chance you then buy a very high quality bottle. You wouldn't think this higher quality smelled right - you might think you'd bought the wrong oil, unless you knew what was going on. I have a friend who does mail order essential oils (the sequoia brand). She had a customer who had been buying the lower quality of a certain oil for quite a while. Well one time when she ordered some more sequoia was out of the lower quality so thought she'd be nice and send the customer one of the higher quality ones. The customer called back yelling saying she had been sent a bad bottle of oil. It didn't smell like it was supposed to and she was very angry!!! :) So once you can get to telling the difference between synthetic and nature oils I wouldn't worry too much. Just go with the ones that smell right to you. :)

cjtarot	10 Oct 2002
Faunabay, Ok..now here is the problem..I am gonna try to stick to Aura Cacia..is that an ok or good oil...BUT... I love the smell of musk..what do I do..can you mix a synthetic (musk) with a real oil or are you asking for smelly trouble? let me know what you think and thank you for your help. CJ

BronzeWolf	10 Oct 2002
Amphora Aromatics This companies oils are very good, they are quiet earthy/green and pure and are reasonably priced http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/amphora_aromatics/

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