WICCA SPELLS - anyone know one that will help....

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 11 Nov 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

RainbowFire	11 Nov 2002
Hi - I'm Wiccan but I don't know many spells, apart from ones in RavenWolf's books. I'm being bullied at school by a numbe rof people.... so I did her Frost Giant spell which involves writing teh names of everyone who bothers me and putting it in teh freezer - and I added a twist by writing them on another piece of paper too and burning it (I made sure to say With harm to none) - it's a spell to stop them bothering me. But I went to school today and they were worse if anything.... so I need a stronger spell without going into dark magick. (As white as possible) who can recommend a spell or something so that they leave me alone? (And don't say tell a teacher) Also why don't you think it worked? SilverSong xxx

Sorceress_Jade	11 Nov 2002
First I want to start by letting you know this is all my OPINION. So it's merely advice, not anything written in the cosmic law books. I accomplished a task similar to the one your looking at a few years back. Turned out better than I could have ever hoped. The first thing is not to rely on the actions your taking in the spell to do the work, but rather on your own will power. It's your own concentration that's the key. YOU must be focused on sedating their focus on you (whether it's rage or bitterness that they show it in) Focus on the emotions and actions they're pushing at you, rather then on the actual people. Second, to do that, I would suggest going further than just smoothing over their energies directed at you, but to try and calm the tension between you and them in a general manner as well. Perhapse focus on them someone understanding your perspective. A lot of people would go for the 'give them a taste of their own medicine' but I don't give the assailant enough credit to actually put the pieces together and feel any remorse. Work directly on their perspective. I'm not sure how clear that all came out, and I want to emphasize again that this is my opinion, not guarranteeing it will work for you, it's just suggestion.

raeanne	11 Nov 2002
Hi RainbowFire, This is just from my own experience. I’m not usually one to do much in the way of spells but a while back I had a co-worker that was causing a lot of problems for me. I wrote their name on a small piece of paper, rolled it up, tied it with a string, and placed it in an empty plastic bottle (the kind that pop or water comes in – I used a clean water bottle) and put the lid back on. Then I placed the bottle in an “out of the way” place since I wanted this person to stay out of my way. Well, this seemed to work for the longest time. Then one day I was cleaning house and I stupidly thought it would be OK to release the spell. I took the paper out and burned it and threw the bottle away. Two days later my boss called me in to say that this other person had filed a complaint against me! Wow! That night I did the spell again and I have not had further problems with this person. So, I’m wondering if the burning part of the spell caused the problem. You might want to try just a plain binding spell. Keep your karma in mind and don’t let them get to you. If you are true to your spiritual path, whatever they do, it will not harm you in the long run. Come to Aeclectic when you need support! Peace!

DarkElectric	11 Nov 2002
Hi RainbowFire :) Yeah, I think you probably did a bit of the overkill thing with the burning the names too, and for a different reason than you may think. When you "chilled them out", you invoked ice energy. When you burned them too, you invoked fire energy. These energies are pretty oppositional in nature, and I'm not surprised that there was an upsurge in activity. When Ice and Fire meet, it's an explosive kind of thing. The freezing their names was a good first step, though. There are a couple of things you might consider trying. One, make yourself "unseen" by the bullies, so they don't notice you. If it's too late for that, and you are a total target and know that it's going to be you all year, you may want to try this. Get a small vial of "peace" oil. (if you can't find this, you can make some yourself. Every day, before you have to go to wherever you will be dealing with these people, rub a small amount of the oil on your temples, and say your incantation, something like "May this day peaceful be, let these people lose interest in bothering me." Then visualise a completely quiet day, with these specific people leaving you alone, getting bored with heckling you, finding something else to do, etc. Also, while you are dealing with these people, do not let them know that they bug you or scare you at all. If they realise they are bugging you, they'll do it more, trust me. You might also want to redo the freezer spell too. You can use more than one spell at once to get a job done, they just have to be spells that synchronise with each other, that's all. Look online for a site which sells magickal oils and things. I like www.enchantmentsincnyc.com They mail order, and also create oils for people. If you requested a peace oil, they would make a really great one. I use their stuff, and it works! Or, you could order the essential oils, usually referred to as "fragrance oils", and proceed to DIY. Ingredients needed: Ylang-Ylang oil Lavender oil Chamomile oil Rose oil 3 drops Ylang-Ylang, 3 drops Lavender, 2 drops Chamomile, 1 drop Rose. This is the formula ratio, so if you do the essential oil thing, they will last a long time. And if these are persistant creepy people, you may need to do this for a while. Hey, peace oil may get to be your signature perfume! I can think of worse things. Just don't give up! Good luck.

HudsonGray	11 Nov 2002
I always saw a burning as a sort of release, so it makes perfect sense if you did the freezing on one hand and the burning on the other the two would completely cancel out---giving the people a funny feeling in your direction so they refocus on YOU. Remember doing anything TO someone ties you to them. In this case it may NOT be the best thing for you. The 'out of the way' thing could work but it still leaves you tied to them, as happened to the other person. A better way would be to shield & make yourself invisible to the specific people (not to all, you could get marked absent or be walked into constantly in the halls). A good site telling about shielding is over at the playful psychic site, just do a search on that. Look under the basic skills section on the page & it explains how to do it in plain language. It's very easy. Shields can be renewed very quickly at the start of each school day & they do work well.

Kiama	12 Nov 2002
Hi RainbowFire! I like what everybody else has suggested so far, and have some extra advice to add on... Since I work mainly on the mundance level with my magick, I prefer to take action in that realm instead of, or aswell as, in the spiritual... So, my advice to you is... DO something about it at school. I know it sounds corny, but go to a teacher, tell your parents, your best friends, and stand up to these silly people who you need to feel sorry for, cuz after all, they seem to have nothing better to do with their lives than pick on you. Remember, nobody is better than you. Whatever you do though, please don't suffer on your own. We're here on Aeclectic if you need us, and you can email me if you want to just pour everything out. (I've spent the last 5 years helping two little sisters through being bullied severely, and can relate myself after being bullied almost constantly from the start of school to the age of 15.) Make sure your friends know what's going on, and if possible, make sure they are 'on your side'. Bullies very rarely pick on you if you're in a large group. Why not try a protection spell, and maybe a spell to help the bullies? After all, they're the ones that need help cuz as I said before, they have nothing better to do with their time at school than pick on you. A confidence spell for you may be useful as well: Try battling this thing indirectly instead of directly. Good luck! Kiama

Laurel	13 Nov 2002
Hi SilverSong. This is just my opinion... Its a lot easier to change personal consciousness with magic than it is to directly affect external events. Magic is all about belief, and what you can do with your mind, which is the most powerful tool you have. Unfortunately, bullies can have powerful tools in their minds too. In order to really have an affect on them directly, your Will has to Overcome theirs. That's hard stuff, especially if they believe you are weak and pathetic. So the solution is to approach the situation differently. Rather than using magic to make them 'stop', preform magic to keep yourself safe and unaffected by their obnoxiousness. Turn the magic inwards and then when its successful, the external will change better than you could ever hope for at this time. Laurel

The Enchanter	14 Nov 2002
Ok, enough with he burning already. Im not Wiccan but Ithink you should try to find a spell that will protect you and cause you not to care about bullying. Or maybe you should just ignore them or find somewhere within you that has enough confidence to push those nasty thoughts away. Spells aren't always the answer. By the way, thowing thigs in fire might express anger (not a good thing!).

Sea Sprite	14 Nov 2002
Hi RainbowFire, Wear a black tourmaline pendant to repel all negativity. Say this before going to school "I claim a hedge of protection around myself this day. I ask you (whatever diety) to surround me today. Protect me from any harmful demonic or other physical or mental attacks. " Visit your public library to see if they have any books by Scott Cunningham. He authored many good Wiccan books. :) I agree with MattDouglas, that you should learn self defense. Do these people actually touch you, shove or push you? Do they threaten physical harm? If so, you should go see the school police officer and have him document the problem. :)

MattDouglas	15 Nov 2002
Hi RainbowFire! I'm really sorry to hear of your predicament. Right now, I'm an average-sized 27-yr-old guy who used to study martial arts. However, before adolescence, I was really small, and got bullied frequently. I'm not Wiccan (Well, that's not fair, I'm Baha'i. As a Bahai, I call myself a BAha'i, but that doesn't mean I don't see other religions as having a Divine origin. I learn from them all, Wicca included), but have read a little about spells, and remember one book saying something along the lines of... "a protection spell for your house won't do much good if you don't bother to lock your door." Keep up the spell-work, since it allows you to feel better and gives you some spiritual strength. But I agree with Kiama, DO something. Some ideas: Talk to someone in the school, who will listen, and will try to handle the situation on a low-key level. I know that simply going to a teacher who will outright tell them to knock-it-off may be counter-productive, but there may be someone who may know a way to handle it. Are they bullying you because you're Wiccan or are they just looking for someone to pick on? If the latter, if attention is brought to THEIR parents somehow, then their parents may be able to get them to stop. Start training in self-defense if possible. By all means avoid a fight if at all possible. However, knowing how to fight can be empowering (was for me). Granted, it may take at least a year before you're proficient enough to have some competent abilities, but starting now won't hurt. Until you've reached a decent level of proficiency, DONT let anyone know you're training. If people find out in the meantime, they might pick on you more just to see what you'll do. I know a Wiccan author (he's about 50) who has told me than he was bullied when he went to school and was often beat up on the way home from school. (I forget whether it was general bullying, or if he was targeted for being a Witch). Eventually, he learned to trust his intuitive powers, and was able to avoid them when walking home by picking the route where they weren't. His friend wouldn't trust him, and he'd see them the next day with bruises. How's your intuition? Why not give it a try? I glad to see that Kiama has offered her support to you! (Kiama, how kind of you! That's wonderful!) If you need anyone else to talk to or write to, I too am here for you! I hope that helps. I wish I could do more! Love, understanding, and compassion, Matt

floracove	28 Nov 2002
Sorry your having to go thru this. One thing to keep in mind might be that for some reason they may be jealous. Why people are like that I don't know but the majority of the time it's true. They can see things in you. Something they wish they had...I don't know.... Hope things get better soon.

Trinity	12 Dec 2002
1. Take a Black Cloth Doll in a Waning Moon and stuff it with dirt from the person's property (if not attainable, write the person's name on Parchment Paper in Ritual Black Ink). 2. Place the Paper along with: Dillweed Devil Shoe String Elecampane Cowslip Elderberries inot the doll. Sew it shut. Tie the hands and feet together with Black & Red String and place on cloth on the altar between Red & Black Candle anointed with Bind & Drive Oil. Sprinkle Doll with Get Away Powder and say: His/Her hands and feet I wind Their interference to bind, They ma not harass me As I myself stay free They deeper and deeper entangle Themselves in their mangle No more to bother me Then, I set them free. 3. Burn Drive & Bind Incense during ritual. Blow out Candles and put Candles, Dolls, Cloth and Ashes from Incense in a box and hide in a dark place. When person stops bothering you, you can cut the threads that bind them and throw it all into running water. (don't forget to add: Do as ye will, but harm ye none) I hope this spell helps you, as it did me.

Arialinna	12 Dec 2002
I think that if you reaaly want to get rid of them with out black magick or harm coming to them, this going to sound stupid Iknow, but try to ignore them if they get bored they will leave you alone if not try either binding their illintent or doing a return Karma spell as in a mundane version of the three times three spell! It is not black or gray it is deffensive white! do not how ever bind the people themselves it wil backlash on you when you release them. I know this because it happened to me! I wish you peace and good luck!

RainbowFire	05 Jul 2003
Hey! I haven't checked these boards for ages, I'm glad I did as I realise I forgot to reply to all your kind words of advice. It made me feel really good about myself that you all replied and helped me, and in turn I think that helped me give out a more positive vibe, so they maybe picked up on that. The "bullying" wasn't because of me being Wiccan or anything, it was just over some embarrassing incident, but they didn't like me before then as I don't stand up for myself much. Anyway it did carry on for a few weeks but by the end everyone had forgotten about it, I seemed to get on better with my friends than before, and even the bullies were ok with me! Gladly now I've done my exams, I've finished school and am going to college in September where nobody knows me, although I've been on the open day and made some new friends already. It's amazing how feeling positive affects the way people act towards you. I still have "down" days and people tend to pick up on that and leave me alone too. Anyway, I didn't do any more spells, I did pray a bit - and I can't remember if I left their names in the freezer or not!! Well, if they're still in there under the frozen burgers, they can stay there just incase! Thanks guys! :D

zorya	05 Jul 2003
welcome back rainbowfire, i'm glad things are going so well for you. i think you are on to something about the bullies picking up on your positive vibe. i believe we attract to ourselves, people who's energy is vibrating at the same frequency. positive energy vibrates at a faster frequency than negative. this is a simplification of course, but one way of looking at it is that if you are feeling confident, loving and happy, you will probably find yourself surrounded by confident, loving and happy people.

DarkElectric	05 Jul 2003
Rainbow Fire :) Thanks for the recap, so glad it all worked out! Good luck at Uni, Blessed Be, DE

Brooding	08 Jul 2003
OMG I cant belive what i just read. Using a spell to keep people from bulling you? if anything it should make people come after you, if these people found out you were trying to bewitch them or something they would proably want to beat you up or worse all this spell casting is doing is trying to circumnavigate the problem. Everytime something bad happens you cant cast a spell to make it go away, you should tell these people to screw off, if you dont stand up for yourself these people will never leave you alone and even if they do get bored and leave a new group will move in. last year their was a kid who kept calling me on and stuff until I got sick of it and beat the living (i swear to much) out of him now im not saying you should fight as i dont know who you are but if you dont stand up for yourself your just asking for trouble. but stop the spell casting cmon that is just crazy. And all the rest of you giving advice on spell casting? to solve this problem? I expected better. I totaly agree with what Kiama, MattDouglas and floracove said but the rest of you, to shame I expected better

Alobar	08 Jul 2003
i am Wiccan, and have been for a long time (and a practicing witch for much, much longer still). but there are certain lessons in life that we just have to learn, and sometimes that's not an easy thing. turning to the spell book at the first sign of trouble is rarely the answer (besides the fact that book spells are generally useless anyway). now it seems that you've realised this, and the situation has resolved itself naturally, the way it should. and you've learned a social skill you never would have picked up from 'spellwork'. so save the magick for magickal situations, and deal with the mundane situations with both feet planted firmly in this plane. (and next time your burning something, throw that book on top of the fire!) :rolleyes:

HudsonGray	08 Jul 2003
Many people CAN'T do the 'stand up' thing or beat the living cr** out of someone if they've been pushed and shoved and have had their self esteem trampled so far down that they can't raise it up again. I wish we all had perfect connections to ourselves regarding physical and emotional and social skills, but anyone looking back at high school will recognise the situation perfectly. You do learn skills there. Either aggression or avoidance usually, but most of it is rarely balanced to the point where it's 100% effective and good for you. High School can be a real hell. I'm not looking down on anyone looking into magic as a potential solution because often it starts the person THINKING about options, not just reacting knee jerk with one extreme or the other (ie: total avoidance or beating people up). Either one of those may solve the problem temporarily, but you can't use either one in the business world, much less regularly as consistent actions an adult -- so again, it comes to thinking and options. Magic isn't a cure all. It's a process and a learning experience. It should be done sparingly if at all. But it does have it's uses. The person asked for assistance and clarification and ended up resolving the problem. The steps done in between are strictly their own.

Alobar	08 Jul 2003
there are other mundane options in between "total avoidance" and "beating people up". balance is the key to any situation. my point was that magick should be used magickally, NOT as a crutch, or as a way to avoid the hard lessons. i'm not saying that's the situation here, but (excuse my gross generalisation) in my experience with Pagan message boards, most of the time these spell requests are just that.

DarkElectric	08 Jul 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Brooding [b but stop the spell casting cmon that is just crazy. and all the rest of you giving advice on spell casting? to solve this problem? i expected better. i totaly agree with what kiama, mattdouglas and floracove said but the rest of you, to shame i expected better [/b] There are lots of different ways to solve problems, it's not always feasable to beat someone up. And a lot of times, girls really don't feel that physical violence is an effective way to solve problems. Especially between themselves, and other girls. People have the right to solve their own problems in any way they see fit, whether it be physical brutality, or spellwork, whatever. Shame on Us? If someone wants advice on spellwork, they have the right to ask for that information. If someone wants to know about beating people up, well, we can direct them to you.

Dark Inquisitor	08 Jul 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Brooding OMG I cant belive what i just read. stop the spell casting cmon that is just crazy. And all the rest of you giving advice on spell casting? to solve this problem? I expected better. I totaly agree with what Kiama, MattDouglas and floracove said but the rest of you, to shame I expected better __Plenty of people would say the same about the use of tarot cards for any purpose whatsoever. I assume you use them though. Tarotphelia

HudsonGray	08 Jul 2003
LOL Dark Electric! Yep, girls handle things differently than boys, and oftentimes everything that's tried just won't work. I have no qualms about magic being looked at IF (yes, IF) it's not aimed at someone else, but used by the user for/on themselves. It's empowerment, in many ways, and there are distinct advantages to just knowing that you're doing something to help yourself that's specifically geared to work to help you. But I do advocate using mundane routes first. They had been suggested prior to my posting so I didn't cover them but talked instead about shielding. Going to the school councelors and teachers and getting results totally depends on how that school handles difficulties. Country schools are different than inner city schools. And remember that prior to Columbine, people didn't really take school aggression seriously. There are still schools that don't. I know two people who homeschool because of that, one had three girls pull a knife on her young boy. The other was constantly goaded by his peers and was becoming dangerously withdrawn. Both had tried talking to the principal, the school board & the other aggressor kids parents. Every situation is different. But then again, the original problem posted here has been resolved, so what's the fuss?

raeanne	09 Jul 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Brooding OMG I cant belive what i just read. ..... if these people found out you were trying to bewitch them or something they would proably want to beat you up .....but the rest of you, to shame I expected better. Hi Brooding, I don't think you understand what spells and spellcasting really are. There are many types of spells that have nothing to do with bewitching anyone. You resolved your problem with fighting. Not everyone wishes to take that path. Please don't "shame" anyone for offering alternatives.

LaLa	10 Jul 2003
Being judgemental can be very alienating spellcraft is a meditation and karmic or circular in nature if its done with compassion and love it should be spiral (upwards) much like what we share here (just a thought in return for the positive energy I recieved in the thread about thinking about death)

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