Old soul or Young soul?
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 05 Dec 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| raeanne |
05 Dec 2002 |
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Hi all,
I have heard many folks talk about being an "old soul". I was wondering what this means to different folks. If you are an old soul, does that mean you have incarnated here many times or does it mean your first incarnation was a long time ago? If you are an old soul and have been here many times, does that mean you are a slow learner? I don't feel like an old soul at all! I've had people tell me I am, but I feel very inexperienced. I don't think I wanted to incarnate here this time around. It really feels more like I was talked into coming here. I'm not real comfortable with the physicality of this life. For example, the whole food thing is such a big bother! I don't like going to the store and buying the food. Then I have to carry it from the car into the house and put it all away. Cooking is something that I really don't like to do and then I have to cleanup afterwards. And it doesn't end there! My body uses what it can (often complaining and getting gas) and then I have to go to the bathroom and get rid of the waste. What a big bother! There has to be a better, less messy way to do this! I think I might have lived in a different universe where feeding the body was much easier and I didn't have to do all this physical stuff. Anyway, this is just one of many reasons why I just don't feel like an "old soul". Maybe I'm wrong and the feelings are there because I am getting ready to move away from the physical realm. So, I was wondering what your opinions are about this phrase and how many of you think you are or might be an "old soul".
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| truthsayer |
05 Dec 2002 |
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raeanne, i don't know how old you are but the feelings you describe sound so very familiar to me. i felt that way into my thirties-still feel that way some. it embarrasses me or makes me feel angry if someone talks about food in a sensory way. i've never understood why. i don't think i was ever anorexic but there was a time i felt so disconnected from this life that i forgot to eat. i just didn't want to be here. somehow that has changed. i know feel more grounded into my body. i'm aware of the physical side of life more than i did before. before i never felt really anchored into my body. around the age of 35 i started having health problems. the more pain or fatigue or whatever i felt, the more into my body i became. as i felt more in my body, the more interested i have become in food. i feel reborn in a sensory way. i notice tastes, textures and smells i never have before. of course, i've gained weight! LOL i feel like i'd lose the weight if i let myself go into that detached from my body feeling again.
for a long time i resented being grounded into my body but slowly i've learned to accept it and even enjoy sensory experiences. i highly recommend you get a copy of "earth angels" by doreen virtue. it is decribed as "a pocket guide for incarnated angels, elementals, starppl, walk-ins and wizards. you sound like a star person. i think you'd feel better if you read more about it.the book isn't but $7 usd.
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| allibee |
05 Dec 2002 |
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my birthday adds up to 9, which in reincarnation terms means I don't have to come back here again if I don't want to....yaaaayyy!
I am an old soul too. People tell me, and the ones that don't know, ask me how I understand 'people' so well.
I do often feel like an old head on young(ish) shoulders, wondering why people do the things they do, when in the long run its all so self defeating. But that is their path and their lesson to learn.
I think that's maybe why I've packed so much into my life this time.
And perhaps, many people who come to meet here, and on other boards and chatrooms like here, are all at the same old soul stage of their development. Perhaps this universal awakening, brought together by the medium of mass communication, is really what they call the 'dawning of the age of aquarius'?
Maybe...
allibee
- I'm no angel.... yet -
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| allibee |
05 Dec 2002 |
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I missed your reply truthsayer, but would agree about not wanting to be here. I was like that from being 14 - 22. At age 21, I almost managed to escape permanently, and after suffering an acute hepatic necrosis, septicemea, jaundice, fluid on the brain, renal failure - the works - guess what, I still didn't want to be here !
But it was after that, and some weird experiences whilst in a coma, that I developed an interest in spirituality and the world that I found around me.
But I have always felt since then, that I am in this world, not of it.
That this earthly experience is a classroom, and that after, we go back to where we came from.
Home.
allibee
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| truthsayer |
05 Dec 2002 |
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have you read any of gary zukav's books? "the seat of the soul" and the heart of the soul"? he talks a lot about the earth classroom. his webaddy is: http://www.zukav.com/index.htm
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| Liliana |
05 Dec 2002 |
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I definately dont really want to be here, but yet here i am, and my birthyear is an 11 so im not even supposed to need to be here. Im guessing I have a good reason for putting up with all this bs again that i dont know. I hate to cook, clean, potty, tho I admit I do get some pleasure from very fine food. But left to my own i often dont eat til the toddlers remind me its time for lunch or dinner hehe. And the way I feel about the human race, sometimes I look at it and ask why bother? We are so negative, our energy must be polluting the galaxy something feirce. we never learn from past mistakes, over 90% of the population have nothing but hate on their minds to varying degrees (from shes too fat to wear that to lets kill all the blacks, or even stronger) All it seems humans do is go around and judge each other, I want no part of it, I wont even judge others for judging others lol, except the rare times those negative thoughts about everybody creep in, Im only human, at least for now
:THP
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| raeanne |
05 Dec 2002 |
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Truthsayer,
My age, well, let’s just say I’ve had my golden jubilee and then some. I had my children when I was a bit older and that helped to keep me young. I really enjoy being a crone! The strange thing for me is that the older I get, the more disconnected I feel from the physical. It is strange because I have always been very, very sensitive to sights, sounds, colors, smells, and all other sensory input. The older I get, the more intense this is becoming. When people touch me it can be like horrible static screeching. There was a country western song a few years back about liking a man with slow hands and an easy touch! Boy, could I relate! I am having more and more problems going shopping because most of the stores have the music so loud that I can’t stand it. I just want to get what I need and get out! I have read “Seat of the Soul”. It was a very good book. I have tried to figure out why I incarnated this time around. If it was to develop interpersonal relationships, I am failing, big time! If, however, it is to let go of the physical, I must be succeeding! But, I still don’t feel like an old soul.
Alimee,
How do you define “old soul”? Do you think you have incarnated several times? Were you here on Earth before or someplace else? I am really fascinated with the “old soul” concept, I just don’t really know for sure what people mean when they use this term. My birthday adds up to 22 so I don’t know if that means I am just starting my journey as The Fool or if I have moved past The Universe and on to something else. When I saw the movie “Lord of the Rings” I was impressed with Rivendell but Loth Lorien blew me away! Wow! I could really feel at home there!
Liliana,
I understand where you are coming from! It is so tiring to hear the negativity all the time. That's why I like coming here so much because even when people clash with each other, there always seems to be an attempt to move past the negative. Do you feel like an "old soul"? How do you define this term?
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| Alissa |
05 Dec 2002 |
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Originally posted by raeanne
I don't think I wanted to incarnate here this time around. It really feels more like I was talked into coming here. I'm not real comfortable with the physicality of this life. For example, the whole food thing is such a big bother!
I have no idea if I'm an old soul, but I can tell you what I feel about spirituality and reincarnation, based solely off my own readings and thoughts and talks with friends.
I personally don't have as much issue coming back to earth as others seem to. I've met several people who were QUITE aware how much they hate it in the Earth Reality (as I'm calling this world, this plane, this life). Personally, I've come to like it here -- even though it's an awful incarnation possibility.
The food thing makes sense to me. I know I'm not really "from" here but am most comfortable in a reality that is less materially based, and I mean that in a literal way, not monetary.
Imagine a reality where you are more astral, less corporeal. Physicality is minimized, you "eat" differently by taking in energy, you "talk" differently, more mental/telepathic.
And here's the one I can never get used to while here on this world -- everything is so damn SOLID and LITERAL. Example : If you see a wall, there's always a wall there. There are never times when you might see it, but it's not fully there. Or times when you can pass through the corner of a table or wall, because it's only partially material. This has left me with a lifetime of bruises because I am always running into wall or tables or counter corners because I'm still expecting to *pass through* it and I NEVER do :D
I've talked to my friend Joanne about the Earth Reality (vs. other realitites) often and one point she makes about this place is for many it's just about the most awful, as far as incarnation possibilities. Many will never incarnate here b/c it's too hard to deal with (and I mean that "hard" emotionally not just hard tables to circumnavigate.)
My analogy is this Reality is like pouring alcohol in a wound. It hurts terribly when we get hurt here, it is a RAW and Painful place, but we are much better for it in the long run. This place is a karma incinerator -- you can really clean up a lot by coming here to deal with it. (It's also a karma generator, I don't want to sound one-sided about that, but Earth Reality does have it's helpful aspects is my point).
Due to the fact that it is so hard, so full of negativity like Liliana rightly says (and I too imagine what havoc it wreaks on the Universal) it's a place that really NEEDS every spiritual teacher it can recruit. raeanne, you may have been "recruited" into coming here.
Mostly, this place is for learning compassion. HArd to believe huh? The reason everything is so difficult here is to teach us the pain that others' suffer, so that we might develop compassion. Unfortunately, that's just not always the case. (Like jail is often not about rehabilitation but about punishment). Some see Earth as a real jail, alright.
When we don't learn compassion, we come back here a lot I think. When we do learn compassion, the Earth Reality needs every ounce it can get, and regularly needs an influx of "old souls" to help balance out everything else here -- to build compassion, teach spirituality.
Anyhow, that's just my view, but I thought I'd throw it in since I totally GOT what you meant about food, etc.
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| violinlily |
05 Dec 2002 |
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I know almost exactly how you feel, like being able to walk into things, and expect to not feel it, but end up w/ a bruise or a cut or something.
the eating thing hasn't happened, but allibee said at around age 14. well, I'm 14.
I also feel like I'm able to move things w/ my mind or something (people think I'm strange when I stare at something for like five minutes....).
And also, I get soooo "depressed" (I say "depressed" for lack of a better word) that I just want to put my head down, and fly away, and start a new "life."
what do the #s mean? my bday adds up to 10, but what does it have to do w/ anything?? Does anything above 9 mean that you don't have to be incarnated again or something??
ttyl,
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| truthsayer |
05 Dec 2002 |
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i have a problem with walking into things and bruising myself up w/o realizing what i did. it's like i expect to walk thru walls. another thing that's been pointed out to me is that i don't talk much. what they don't realize is I HONESTLY FORGET TO TALK OUTLOUD! sometimes my thoughts feels so loud i don't know how no one heard me. then when i do speak out loud i have problems moderately the loudness or softness of my voice. my hearing is excellent but when i want to i can completely tune this world out to the point of my husband talking to me in the same room and i didn't hear a word he said.
the comment about it becoming increasingly difficult to tolerate noise is so true for me, too. loud music of any kind is like a shock to my nervous system. i also try to avoid crowds b/c the energy of a group can be very overwhelming and draining. it's beginning to sound like i have a book for every occasion but here's 2 more on this extreme sensitivity: "the highly sensitive person" by elaine aaron. she has a website if you do a search. "are you really too sensitive?" by marcie green. she also has a website. i prefer marcie green's book b/c she particularly addresses psychic sensitivity. for example, i am an emotion ultrasensitive. i am very empathetic of the feelings of others to the point i find them overwhelming. the book goes into how to block any distressing thoughts or feelings and help you feel more in control of yourself.
i don't know that much about numerology as far as number vibrations go. my birthdate adds up to 19 which reduces to 10 and 1. i know what this means in tarot cards but what about numerology? thanks!
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| Hypatia |
05 Dec 2002 |
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I guess I must be a very new soul. I love having a body and living on the earth. One of things I like about reincarnation is the idea you come back. Yes there are lots of things wrong with the world, but the earth itself is so amazing.
I love eating. I tend to go for a week not bothering overly about food and then eat lovely food for a day and it tastes wonderful. Chilled melon, or really ripe peaches or bread, cheese and tomatos.
And then there's really hot baths with vanilla scent. Or walking in the sunshine...
The problems I have are with people. They just seem to suck all the energy out of me. A large group just totally drains me although I do enjoy being with a small group of friends.
I'm a 37/1 birth number, so does that mean I get to come back many more times?
Hypatia
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| faunabay |
05 Dec 2002 |
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I think everyone who has posted here needs to read the book truthsayer suggested "Earth Angels" by Doreen Virtue!! :)
It's definitely an eye-opener!
I think I'm a walk-in (the book will explain if you don't know what this is) because my life path number is 8 and that does NOT fit me at all! Not one bit!
Ok.... *LOL** ......a walk-in is someone born with one soul who exchanges souls somehwere during that lifetime. So this would make sense since my life path number doesn't fit. I was born another soul!
And I completely relate to the non-eating thing! Food does NOT interest me at all. Oh I eat, but only for energy. I can eat almost anything and not worry about it. It's just fuel so I don't care that much about taste. ROFL And I definitely forget to eat if I've got other things going on. I've had to watch it thought, because I get shaky (low blood sugar) if I don't eat enough.
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| Rhiannon |
05 Dec 2002 |
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I've been told by people that I have an old soul. I tend to believe this. My impression of it is that I just "get" things easier than some other people. I can look at something and understand it fairly quickly. It's almost like I'm just being reminded of it, not having to learn it all over again. Like a refresher course.
I'm not sure, but according to past life readings I've been around for at least 100 years, maybe more. Yeah, I tend to think more. I think I like reincarnating. :) I can relate to that. My sister absolutely HATED moving around when we were children (dad was military) but I loved it! I got to reinvent myself all the time! If I wasn't popular at one school that didn't mean I had to be a geek at the next one. My short attention span probably helped some there. ;)
Anyway, I'm not sure if I'm a slow learner, or if it's because I enjoy reincarnating and having new experiences... but I've been here before. And somehow, I know I'll be here again.
R :)
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| Strange2 |
06 Dec 2002 |
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Interesting topic! When I look into the eyes of children, I often get a sense of whether they are an "old soul" and have been here before. This feeling is usually a flash of recognition of the soul within, and acknowledgment that they are looking at the world both with the wonder of a child and with the joy of a soul who is experiencing their special place in creation.
Personally I don't feel like an "old" soul, but a "middle aged" soul who still has a lot of Work to do to keep evolving to fully realize the Star within.
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| Kiama |
06 Dec 2002 |
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In a Tarot reading I recieved about my soul's purpose this life, I was informed that this is probably the last time I will have to incarnate. I am happy with that. I have been told I am an 'old soul', and have never fit in with people my own age, because I simply act and think much older: People on Aeclectic who have never heard my age get surprised, cuz they don't think I'm 18. I did my 'childhood' very very quickly, and it was practically over by the age of 9, where my mind suddenly turned to more advanced, more adult things... Tarot, psychology, philosophy, science... Right now, I'm going through a time where mystical experiences play a huge part in my life and learning. They used to happen spontaneously, but now I can enter one on will. (Without drink, drugs, fasting etc :D) And what I have learned from these experiences is... Well, sometimes I remember how old I am biologically, and don't feel ready for them. But then I try and ignore biological age, and the experiences help me more.
Basically, I was not surprised to find out this is my last incarnation. I feel very comfortable with it, not because I don't like life or this Earth, (I LOVE those things!) but because I feel... Ready. :D
Hope that all made sense.
Kiama
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| allibee |
06 Dec 2002 |
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Originally posted by Strange2
When I look into the eyes of children, I often get a sense of whether they are an "old soul" and have been here before. This feeling is usually a flash of recognition of the soul within,
From my point of view, this is what you may call a spiritual fingerprint upon the soul.
In all our incarnations we meet people, go places, touch things, see things, do things etc,etc., and this imprints upon us.
Then in this incarnation we meet someone we have never met before and say "Do I know you? I feel like we've met before", or, especially, when you've just met someone and are really hitting it off "I feel like I've known you forever".
We go or see somewhere we have never been before, and say " I KNOW this place".
When something happens and you feel it is like a rerun of a movie, have you not ever said "wow, spooky, deja vu, or wot?", or, especially, "I've been here before".
In my opinion, in that case, you probably have.
allibee
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| Arialinna |
06 Dec 2002 |
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Help how do I find out if I am a young soul or an old soul?????? I feel older than I really am I also know more than poeple think I should. more tha Ithink I should!?!?!?! how do you find out how many lives you have had???
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| allibee |
06 Dec 2002 |
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past life regression, past life readings?.
I seem to remember it is a buddhist thing to say that if you have had so many reincarnations, then you can decide whether you want to come back again.
allibee
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| allibee |
06 Dec 2002 |
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I keep meaning to post this....
It's by William Wordsworth (English poet, 1770-1850)
"Heaven lies around us in our infancy……..
Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
and cometh from afar:
Not in entire forgetfulness
And not in utter nakedness,
But trailing clouds of glory do we come..."
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| Alissa |
06 Dec 2002 |
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Originally posted by truthsayer
i have a problem with walking into things and bruising myself up w/o realizing what i did. it's like i expect to walk thru walls. another thing that's been pointed out to me is that i don't talk much. what they don't realize is I HONESTLY FORGET TO TALK OUTLOUD! !
:D OMG Yes!@!~!@
I was a bad thought "pusher" for a while as a teen. I would project way stronger than I intended to (to borrow the Stephen King like term).
However, it worked great for interviews, until I met someone who realized EXACTLY what I was doing, because she was much more advanced than I. THAT thought me a lesson. As I followed her into her office, I "thought" at her and she stopped walking abruptly and turned around and gave me this sly little grin, like you-little-devil. :D She hired me though.
For me, I've reconciled these "airy" aspects of myself by grounding myself in my body with a physical discipline (mostly my lifetime in dance, but sometimes i do yoga). This has taught me to revel in my body, and greater spatial awareness.
I need reminding to eat at times. I forget, and people think I'm an airhead for not remembering to eat. Shaky hands, low blood sugar BAD.
It's so great to come here to Aeclectic and find so many other people who FEEL and DO these strange things too :D
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| aeonx |
06 Dec 2002 |
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Originally posted by allibee
my birthday adds up to 9, which in reincarnation terms means I don't have to come back here again if I don't want to....yaaaayyy!
Just had to quote you on this one. I have three 9's in my birth-date, plus it all adds up to 9. OK, I was born the 9th day of the 9th month. I am born in the 9th sign of the Chinese Zodiak. The 9th day of the 9th month in 1999 I was 19 years old. I have lots of 9s in my name. 9s are around me everywhere. Sometimes so much that it almost freaked me out. :D And my spiritual Mentor told me that this is my last life on Earth. Ain't I the lucky one? :D
~aeonx~
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| Liliana |
06 Dec 2002 |
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Yes i do consider myself an old soul, i look at the world and everything thats wrong and wonder why everyone else doesnt see it and fix it already. I have to be careful on my 11 life path, i do not want to revert to a 2, especially since by marrying my husband my name changed to an 11, obviously he is a big part of my life path. I feel Im here for a reason but im not reafdy to know it yet, which fits with what one of the earlier posted pages said on 11's that they dont peak til like mid thirties. I also have done regressions into at least 4 other lives, im sure theres more, 1 was on another plane similar to this one but where spectacular magick (like fireballs) was real.
As for having a lot of the same number i have ones and twos, born 12 21 life path 11 which reduces to 2, born at 12 something in the afternoon.
And dont forget, Pollux is the antichrist, born the 6 hour the 6 day of the 6 month ;)
:THP
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| allibee |
06 Dec 2002 |
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Originally posted by Liliana
And dont forget, Pollux is the antichrist, born the 6 hour the 6 day of the 6 month ;)
ohhhh, but I loved him so :(
like I already said somewhere, I'm no angel ;)
allibee
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| Kiama |
07 Dec 2002 |
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Because it has been so highly recommened, I went out yesterday and bought 'Earth Angels'.
I was in tears when I realised what I relly am, cuz it all just makes sense... I'm an Incarnated Wise One, and the chapter on their characteristics described me perfectly, down to a tee. Exceot for the cardio-vascular disorder, but then I'm still only 18, so could still get it later on in life. It explained why I am like this, why I feel such a sense of purpose, and why I had contact with Faeries when I was younger...
YAYAYAYAY! :D
Kiama
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| faunabay |
08 Dec 2002 |
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Originally posted by Kiama
Because it has been so highly recommened, I went out yesterday and bought 'Earth Angels'.
I was in tears when I realised what I relly am, cuz it all just makes sense... I'm an Incarnated Wise One, and the chapter on their characteristics described me perfectly, down to a tee. Exceot for the cardio-vascular disorder, but then I'm still only 18, so could still get it later on in life. It explained why I am like this, why I feel such a sense of purpose, and why I had contact with Faeries when I was younger...
YAYAYAYAY! :D
Kiama
ME TOO!!!!! :) I immediately got tears in my eyes when I read about the wise ones. Actually even before I took the little quiz I KNEW that's what I was!
But the quiz was interesting too because it added more information. I KNEW I was a wise one, but the quiz also pointed out that I was probably a walk-in (from a star-person to a wise one) And boy did that make sense!!
Reading this book just gave me a better sense of exactly who I am and why I act/react certain ways!
I mean I've already pretty secure with myself, but this added more understanding.
I can't recommend this book highly enough to people who are the least bit drawn to it!!!!!!!!
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| Arialinna |
10 Dec 2002 |
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Huh???? I am cofused!!!!!!!! I have no clue what is going on......... A little kid just asked me if I knew His Friend! His mom "thinks it is imaginary" But I saw an Angel or Fae or something!!!! And I did recognize him. He knew very well... but we won't go there! can anyone tell me what is going on??????PLEEEEEEEAASE!!!!!!!!!!
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| Arialinna |
11 Dec 2002 |
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I need to clam down some that last post was crazy! It did happen to me yesterday! I found out who the guy is his name is Tevran and he is a faerie! he says that I am a very old soul and that I thave three lives yet to go! I think that this is kind of wierd and kind of cool!
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| allibee |
11 Dec 2002 |
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I got earth angels from Amazon on my doorstep at 9am, had read it by 11am, and found out that I am an Incarnated Angel, absolutely described me to a tee too, my eldest son is a Starperson - I've ALWAYS said: I have three children, one of each, and when people say what is the other, I've always said he was an alien LOL, and I was right ;)
My other two are totally Incarnated Elementals, sheesh, isn't my little family a variety - the spice of life LOLOL..
Ultra weird thing about the Starpeople is that the author described his affliction so well - but doesn't know it - perhaps I should write and tell her.
Matthew has Aspergers Syndrome, an autistic spectrum disorder, which means he has a lot of trouble understanding other people's jokes, body language etc, making him socially very vunerable and therefore he just stays in the backgound and blends with the scenery until he acts, and then he disappears back there again. The tall, lean, brown- black eyed description fitted. He also has Dsypraxia, which makes him very clumsy - like Mr Bean - bless him and this also fits with the gangly nature of why can't I make this earthly body work, sort of thing.
The other two, girl and boy, are totally elementals (with an emphasis on the 'mental' part of the word).
They are slightly built bundles of mischief - red haired - who love the outdoors, always flittering about from on minute to the next.
This is all so spookily accurate, and I'd recommend the book to anyone.
allibee
I'm no angel.....Oh, yes I am actually ;)
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| destinyawaitsme |
11 Dec 2002 |
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THis thread is so interesting. I needed to do some Xmas shopping anyway, so I think I'm going to go out and get that book..lol! I have an 11 life path. So I guess I'm here to do some service...make the world a better place..blah blah blah. I can relate to what a lot of you had said about being an old soul. I've always been told this by other psychics. And when I've given readings to others on the net, they always think I'm a 60 year old woman. THey are usually very shocked to find out I'm just 20. When I was a child, I really acted old for my age. I remember watching kids do flips off the monkey bars at recess thinking, "THat's a good way to hurt yourself." I knew not to cross the street without looking. Mom said I was a blessing, because I never caused any trouble. She never had to get on to me because she said that I just knew how to behave already.
It's funny everyone mentions walking into things...I do several time on a daily basis. But I can't relate about the food part. I love food! I enjoy it...I embrace it...maybe a little bit too much. :)
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| Alissa |
11 Dec 2002 |
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... went out and bought a copy of Earth Angels online too -- a little "one for you, one for me" Christmas shopping. :D
I wonder if anyone at amazon.com is noticing an unusual demand on Doreen Virtue right now ?
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| violinlily |
11 Dec 2002 |
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Have a question: what does the book look like?? I was a a local bookstore, and looked for half an hour (I didn't know the author, so was lost) for it, and was hoping to know what it looked like..... or could u just repeat the author's name?
thanks!!
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| truthsayer |
11 Dec 2002 |
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Originally posted by violinlily
Have a question: what does the book look like?? I was a a local bookstore, and looked for half an hour (I didn't know the author, so was lost) for it, and was hoping to know what it looked like..... or could u just repeat the author's name?
thanks!!
the book is small, thin, and not as wide across as average, blue, and has a picture of angels, fairies, etc. looking down over earth. it is by doreen virtue, ph.d. the isbn # is 1-4019-0048-8. it cost $7 usd. title:"eaerth angels: a pocket guide for incarnated angels, elementals, starpeople, walk-ins, and wizards. printed by hay house.
hope this helps.
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| allibee |
11 Dec 2002 |
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Earth Angels is a pocket sized book written by Doreen Virtue, Ph.D
and it is published by Hay House, Inc.
Hay House website is, not surprisingly:
www.hayhouse.com
or call (800) 654-5126.
It is retailed in the US at $7, Canada $9.95, UK £4.99
Section in bookshop or library: New Age.
Dr Virtue's website is: AngelTherapy.com
Think that's about all ;)
allibee
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| violinlily |
11 Dec 2002 |
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thanks, I'll look 4 it the next time I'm at that book store!!! :D
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| Arialinna |
12 Dec 2002 |
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How do you get to that web site? it won't show up on my computer! if someone would help me i would be very happy and very grateful!
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| sagitarian |
12 Dec 2002 |
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I believe that an old soul is one that has been around for a while not in just this plain but in others as well. I have to agree that some things seem tedious while others are fun to be a part of. I also agree that this reality has a rawness to it that doesn't exist in other plains. I know that for myself, the first time that anyone reads for me, it always comes up that I'm some kind of leader or something. This has been told to me since I was 5. My wonderful aunt June who passed years ago called me her angel. There have been many accounts where others have called me the same. One friend said I was his savior, and another said that I was sent to her from God (as she was religious), and many more have commented. I have a knack of showing up at just the right times when someone needs me but I don't know it. I can also relate to being too empathic. I had to teach myself how to turn it off and KEEP it off for the most part. I would walk through crowds and hear thoughts/emotions would bombard me. It was too much for me! More then ten years ago, I even tried to kill myself b/c I thought this world was too evil to dwell in and I wanted to get this life over with and pass on. Doctors say it's a miracle that I'm even alive, much less no brain damage after what I did. Someone on the other side said "NO YOU'RE STAYING! END OF STORY!" But I'm glad for it now as I have a beautiful family (that's still growing as I'm expecting). I agree with the thought that some of us are "recruited" as that's how I feel in this life. I feel like I'm here as a "guarding spirit" of sorts. I also feel like when I look into the eyes of children, I get a sense of how old their spirit is. My oldest child (whose almost 3) I know is a middle aged spirit, but the last few lives she's had has been exhausting and hard. I know that she's here to enjoy the good things this world has to offer in this life. So I know her struggles won't be much, although she will have a few as we all do. For my youngest child (a yr and a half) I know that she is an old spirit, but has lessons to learn that I think she's forgotten. I know she's going to have her difficulties and struggless. I'm expecting our third now, and just with the pregnancy, I know he's an old spirit, and feel like he's going to be here for more a guardian then anything else. wow, didn't know I had so much to say on this...but that's my two cents worth.
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| Arialinna |
12 Dec 2002 |
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that is so cool Sagi. sorry if I don't spell the whole thing but as I have said before I can not spell thing right even if life did depend on it!
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| Kazz |
16 Dec 2002 |
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I am a 'young soul':D, this is my soul's 2nd life.
I am very indecisive....I am like a kid in a lollie shop when it comes to new things...( i get very excited;))....I love to play all the time with my children, and I love attention!!( the affectionate type)
As for my 2 daughters...the 4yr old is 4 going on 34...knows everything...treats me like kid....she is an 'old soul' this is her soul's 9th life
The 17 month old daughter, this is her soul's 8th life...(another old woman...lol)
And as for my husband...well this is his soul's 4th life....but the man was born OLD...let me tell you.
Cheers
Kazz
:TQC
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| Karenwhe |
16 Dec 2002 |
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There is a lot of numerology discussed here, so I though I add another URL that is very good:
http://www.decoz.com/DoReading_numerology.htm
You can do your own reading, it is very extensive and very good, if you copy the text into word will be at least 8 pages of into about yourself.
Someone also mentioned birth date that sum to 19 that is a Karmic debt number:
By the way, the sum of your birth date is you Life Path number.
"The person with the 19 Karmic Debt will learn independence and the proper use of power. You will be forced to stand up for yourself, and often be left to stand alone. Difficulties will be faced and overcome through personal struggle.
One of the central lessons for people with the 19 Karmic Debt is that you stubbornly resist help. Much of your independence is self-imposed; you simply don't want to listen to others, or to accept the help or advice of others.
The 19 Karmic Debt can become a self imposed prison if you do not open up to the reality of interdependence, and the mutual need for love.
The most important lesson for the 19 Karmic Debt is: While you seek to stand on your own feet, you are still a human being, deeply connected with others and in need of the support, assistance, and human understanding that all people need. Those with the 19 Karmic Debt will learn the hard way that "no man is an island," and that we are, indeed, "all bits of the main!"
For further info: http://www.decoz.com/Karmic_Debt.htm
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| Arialinna |
17 Dec 2002 |
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Cool I will have to try that birthday thing gottago!
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| oldsoul |
28 Dec 2002 |
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i guess my username says it all!
people have always said that i'm VERY old... ever since i was born. i was never a child, someone once said i was an old woman in a young girls body. i've always felt 'held back' by my young body and have longed to grow older, only starting to feel comfortable this last year.
i feel that i have been here many times and that somewhere inside i am very wise. i can recognise if someone is 'old' or 'young' and have a pretty good instinct.
does that help?
oldsoul
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| reds97 |
03 Jan 2003 |
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Originally posted by truthsayer
i have a problem with walking into things and bruising myself up w/o realizing what i did. it's like i expect to walk thru walls. another thing that's been pointed out to me is that i don't talk much. what they don't realize is I HONESTLY FORGET TO TALK OUTLOUD! sometimes my thoughts feels so loud i don't know how no one heard me. then when i do speak out loud i have problems moderately the loudness or softness of my voice. my hearing is excellent but when i want to i can completely tune this world out to the point of my husband talking to me in the same room and i didn't hear a word he said.
i also try to avoid crowds b/c the energy of a group can be very overwhelming and draining.
i am an emotion ultrasensitive. i am very empathetic of the feelings of others to the point i find them overwhelming.
Truth sayer
I find that all you have said seems to be me as well. When i was a kid i was forever running into things and people would ask if i was okay and i would basically look at them like they were crazy.. i wouldn't even feel it.. i have broken many wrist watches because of it. I also can tune in and out conversations. I can hear what people across a crowded room are saying but not the people next to me. And people are always telling to speak up, that they can't hear me. And i feel that i am always talking too loud/yelling at them.
I can feel what people are feeling and can sense the general feeling in a room. I hate crowds and will do almost everything to avoid large ones. It is like a get a pressing feeling from them, like clastrophobia.
And i have always felt i was older than i am. When i was young i was forever acting more like a forty year old then the 10 year old i was.
I didn't know the rest of these feeling were connected to an old soul.
Thank you
sandra
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