Anyone know a good spell?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 01 Jan 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

pozt	01 Jan 2003
There's a girl i hardlyknow who keeps talking behind my back. She's really popular n stuff and the way she spreads the stuff is in a very skilled indiscreet way. It's starting to affect my friendship with some ppl who are afraid that she will ruin their social lives as well. Anyone know a good simple spell to stop her from all this? Thanks.

HudsonGray	01 Jan 2003
There is a HUGE difference between doing magic on yourself to correct a problem & doing magic on others to correct a problem. The first nearly always works, the second has a big chance of backfiring or turning the situation worse. The only way you can be SURE of fixing something is by doing it to yourself. When you try forcing others to adjust their ways to benefit you, there are way too many factors involved & you loose all control. Nothing is as neat & tidy as they show with magic on tv, just as in real life. Life's messy. Firstly, this is a life lesson for you. It's about how you handle stresses aimed at yourself. Have you tried the mundane things? Have you immediately reverted to a magical solution to fix a minor problem with your life instead of looking for other options. Minor? Yes, it is minor. EVERYBODY in high school & college has to deal with this situation. How you learn to handle it lets you move on to the next step of adulthood & handle social problems in the future on the job & in your education studies. You recognise that the person in question is very good with how she spreads rumors. Don't you think others recognise this isn't necessarily the truth if they know you as a person? Will they believe her over what they know of you & your behavior? True friends are never taken in by this. Your best way to counter it is to maybe bring up the subject with your friends, discuss how it can be stopped or at least recognised, then to drop it. What others hear & believe is their own problem, what they SEE from you says much more than what words could say. Why stress out over what another says? This will be happening to you all your life, it's what people do. If you decide that it makes no difference, you 'win'. By not going defensive each and every time someone says something about you, you not only come out of it on top of the game, you don't fuel the attention that the origional person wants. In 2 years who cares what anyone says about you? In 6 months will it really ever make a difference? Are you likely to keep in touch with 99.9% of these people once you're out of school? Then who cares what's said--be who you are, laugh at the inaccuracies someone may bring up. Tell the people who DO matter what you think of the rumors so they're aware that the rumors are false, then go on with your life. Magic for self confidence & self respect are much more powerful than anything that can backfire when aimed at another who isn't in your full control anyway. Often doing magic TO someone more or less ties you to them, making it harder to break attachments. You become a focal point to those who have enough natural ability to know 'instinctively' where the pressure is coming from. If they see it as an attack on them, then you have even more of a mess to try to get out of. If the lie is blatant, call the girl on it. If it's stupid, ignore it. You'll get plenty of others doing this to you in the future, training yourself that it's not really of importance (and it isn't all that important) will allow you to not be on the defensive automatically, for half your life. You have no control over what others believe or choose to believe, why stress the small stuff?

Sulis	02 Jan 2003
I agree with HudsonGray, working on yourself is much more likely to give desirable results than trying to work on someone else, it`s up to them to do that for themselves. Don`t mess with other people, she`ll get back what she`s giving out without you stepping in. Love and light Crystalmynx xx

pozt	02 Jan 2003
Thanks for your suggestions. Actually, I've tried to work on myself for the past 2 years already, being pleasant to people and helping those who need it. We're in business school and it's quite difficult to go against a student union member who has all the right connections and uses them to her own advantage. Actually, the reason why she treats me this way is 'coz her ex bf is in my social circle, so that's like the ONLY reason she would have any grudge against me. I'm quite low profile at university and don't really want to stay in thsi kind of mess. Hope you'll understand.

Kiama	02 Jan 2003
hello pozt! I agree with what HudsonGray said... And add my own Mother's timeles advice here: 'This girl obviously leads a very sad life, cuz she has nothing better to do with her time than try and make others dislike you. Pity her, and get on with the important things, like studying, enjoying time with your real friends (Those who are not taken in by her lies) and good food!' Good ole Mum... Always knows the right words! I went through the same thing during secondary school more times than I have fingers. It hurts terribly, and I understand what you're going through. It really can ruin things for you. If you let it. This girl may be a student in the student's union, but so what? You at least are honest, and don't need to spread lies about people to make yourself feel better. Forget being nice to this person. Just ignore her. Ignore the problem, ignore her. If you still want a spell to stop her doing this, then I woudl suggest (Though I wouldn't do it myself cuz I don't usually do magick on others) writing down on a piece of paper the problem: What's happening etc, and putting it in the freezer. Literally, 'freezing out' the problem. Maybe you could write your own small chant or speech to say as you do so, stating your intent and stating what will happen when you put the paper in the freezer. Good luck! Kiama

Fuzzmello	02 Jan 2003
I agree with Kiama's mum. The best way to relieve yourself of any anxiety is love yourself, then love your 'enemy'. Try to see how she suffers and how her suffering effects her behavior. Have compassion just as you would a suffering bird or puppy. Just don't think you can trick the universe into giving you relief with spells or skullduggery. Can't be done. Ask the cards the best way to deal with how you're feeling in this situation. They'll guide you safely and effectively. Fuzz

DarkElectric	02 Jan 2003
Hi Pozt! I would personally do a courage and clear communication type of spell on myself. Why? So I could have the guts to go up to this girl, and let her know that: 1) I knew that she had been saying this stuff . 2) Ask her why she thinks it's necessary, since she apparently believes it to be a cool thing to do. Ask her why she's so scared and threatened that she needs to cut someone else down to other people. 3) Tell her to please stop, that destruction of someone else's reputation is petty. 4) Because magick and spells which manipulate others are really NOT the way to do things. It isn't ethical, and can be spiritually dangerous for YOU. (Bad Karma.) Don't yell or cause a fight. Just talk to her calmly. If you courageously stand up to her and tell her to stop, then you may actually improve what people say about you, because I'll bet that you are not the only person she does this to. Good luck.

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