Be careful what you ask for, I really got it! Please help undo this spell

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 21 Jan 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

jlbvt	21 Jan 2003
This is a classic case of "be careful what you ask for." Please hold your snide laughter and "I told you so's" until the end. Any constructive criticism is appreciated! A house that I wanted to buy went up for auction after it was forclosed on. It was in good shape by all appearences, and in the same neighborhood as my Mom's house. It was perfect. I was worried about winning it at the auction, since so many realtors go and are willing to pay exactly what the house is worth because they can still make a profit on it. So I did a spell to win the house at a good price. I even went so far as to bury charms around the corners of the house, including strands of my own hair. It worked out perfectly- My fiancee and I did research and got a "drive by" appraisal done by a professional to find out how much we could spend and still get a good deal. Then at the auction, we won the house at exactly the top ammount we agreed we could pay. We had to put down a $8,000 deposit, which was exactly much money I had saved up so far to buy a house with. We entered into a contract to buy the house, contingent on it being ratified by the local courthouse and the house having a clear and marketable title. Everything started to go downhill after that. Our Mortgage broker seems almost incompetent, asking us for different documents almost every day, resulting in us constantly running around to our banks etc. They couldn't put my name on the loan because my credit was 3 points too low. (out of about 700!) My fiancee then had to prove that the $8000 was his, which it wasn't, so that the lender could be sure we weren't laundering money... and after 3 cancelled closing dates, we finally find out from our attourney that there are two different plats that don't agree with each other, and the survey of the land shows that what we were sure was exactly one acre of land was really about 3/4 of an acre because the road goes over the property. But none of the documents we found about the house had been updated with the new acrege. That now brings down the value of the house, and I am going to call the appraiser today to find out what it might be worth with 3/4 of an acre. But that is not the last of the problems. The land was never legally subdivided, and our attourney could not find a building permit on file. This means that when we try to sell the house in the future, it could be impossible. (Not that we actually have any experience there) There is also a strange sinkhole beside the well that was not visible until the guy who came to test the water fell in up to his thigh! It seems to go down at least 15-20 feet! We are bound by contract to buy this house, but we just want to get out of it, it is even starting to cause troubles in our otherwise strong relationship. If we refuse to buy it, they keep our $8000 and when they sell it again, if they get less money for it, we are liable for the difference!! That money is all that I have saved, and it took me many years! The only way we would get our money back is if we take the title to court and a judge rules that it is unmarketable. I think the odds of that are pretty bad, even with the illegal subdivision. And now our attourney is charging $175 an hour to fight it for us! It can't get any worse... So I need a way to negate the spell I did to win the house, and to diffuse the power of the stuff I buried on the property. Is there something I can pour over it? I'm not sure I could find them all again to dig them up. Please help!

HOLMES	21 Jan 2003
did you include the line for the highest good of all with harm to no one, in your spell? my little inuition says to take a big stick, use a spell ( for myself it is just a constant visualiaation ot the stick takes on the energy of the spell) ** be sure the stick is dead eheh** break it , and salt it, burn it, and call upon the angels to take this from you as you throw the stick on the fire. i would recomend putting the a reading in this in your reading section so we can give you more advice. .

Sulis	21 Jan 2003
First of all let me say how sorry I am to hear of your ongoing nightmare. The things that you buried around the perimiter of the house haven`t got any power in themselves, other than the power to concentrate your mind so IMO I wouldn`t particularly worry about them. In this case it may be quite difficult to actually break the spell as it seems that the energies involved have almost done what they were asked to do. That said a spell can be broken by simply visualising the energy which you have put into the spell ceasing to be active. Create a very firm mental image of things being exactly as they are now with no change. Spread your arms wide and visualise any unused energy returning to you. When you sense that you have absorbed as much of the energy that you can place your hands on the ground and allow the energy to return back to the earth. That should at least stop any more damage being done but it may be impossible to undo what has already been done. Have you consulted the tarot for advice on what else you can do? Hope that helps a bit, sorry I can`t help more, maybe someone else will come up with something. Love and light Crystalmynx xx

Woof	21 Jan 2003
Sorry if this sounds trite, but I think you need a better real estate attorney. If none of these problems were disclosed to you when you made your offer I can't see why you can't legally get out of the house. You may also want to contact your local political representative and maybe the media. Maybe someone can help champion your problem. Hey, it can't hurt. I don't know any spells, sorry. All I can do is keep you in my thoughts and send positive energy your way. Ground yourself, meditate, and take care of yourself physically as well as mentally. You have a fight on your hands. Woof

zorya	21 Jan 2003
my heart goes out to you jlbvt. like woof, i was wondering if the fact that several things weren't disclosed to you might help. you can't really undo what has been done. i would attempt to find the items you've buried. even if it's not necessary to do so, knowing they are there is the kind of thing that can continue to trouble you. don't know if this would work but....we are in a waning moon. this would be a good time to try to 'cut' your ties to the house. try casting a circle. have a candle ready. the buried artifacts. a photo of the house, and a string or cord. scissors, a piece of cloth. tie the artifacts into the cloth, making a bundle. attach the string to the photo with one end, and the other end to your artifacts. now in your own words(after the proper, thanks and gratitude to your 'powers that be'), ask that you be released from your bonds to this house, if it be for the greater good. then cut the string. thank the 'powers that be', blow out the candle and bury the artifacts off of the property (not on your current property either). also bury the photo in a different location. or you might want to try a spell (again in a waning moon) to remove the blockages from making this purchase a profitable one.

jlbvt	21 Jan 2003
Thanks for the quick and thoughtful replies, everyone. I will do some thinking before I decide what to do next. The problems were not disclosed because the house was a forclosure auction, so it's different legally. They sell it "as is" and any problems are your problems. Zorya, if I do the cutting the ties spell you suggested, where would be a good place to bury the things? What about throwing them into running water? Thanks again to everyone for their concern! ((hugs)) ;) We are trying so hard to work through this!

zorya	21 Jan 2003
anywhere not on this or your current properties. i would also avoid anywhere on the direct path between. i suppose you could use water, but i prefer to save water for spells that are about healing, communications, channeling or love. as this is about a house, a structure... i would use earth.

Sulis	21 Jan 2003
I`d agree with Zoyra here and go with earth, definately the element for houses and material things. Crystalmynx xx

jlbvt	21 Jan 2003
Quote: Originally posted by HOLMES did you include the line for the highest good of all with harm to no one, in your spell? i would recomend putting the a reading in this in your reading section so we can give you more advice. . I think I did.... I hope I did! Agggh! I am still new at this! Thank you for your advice, I have posted a 3 card spread in "your readings" I don't understand it, so again, any help would be appreciated. Thanks! JOAN

Laurel	21 Jan 2003
My gut feeling is that the house/property itself is still salvageable and worth what you paid for it, and will be "sellable", eventually. If you focus your attention on having the problems that surround the house (the mortgage company, the sink hole) and getting each of them smoothed out one by one, and laugh at the situation a little (because humor cures stress better than anything), you might still end up with a "dream house". And you'll know what -not- to do, next time. So I advocate more magic in terms of affirmations and spells to ease confusion, miscommunication, and bad luck, rather than trying to break the original spell. ~LAS

purplelady	21 Jan 2003
jlbvt, my opinion is that your spell was not the problum. It Did get you what you asked for! The problum is the rules and bs and hoops one has to put up with and jump through to even buy a house these days. You are not the first one I have come across this story from. Lawyers, appraisals, inspections, credit reports and numbers (are we reduced to being a number on a computer somewhere in florida? I'm afriad so) taxes, attorneys, rules, loans, money money money, credit reports. Oh sorry I'm going on and on. Just my 2 cents. I guess whomever can play it right has got it made because it 'aint getting any easier. Just my silly 2 cents worth. If we want to let our world be Ruled by lawyers and many tangled rules I guess it's our choice.

cjtarot	21 Jan 2003
jlbvt Let me start by saying the only spell I ever cast was a candle one, I will burn one for you tonight. NOW, The HOUSE...it may be that you have to work a little harder for your dream house because someone above wants you to appreciate it, love it and care for it properly once you are in. Buying is always a pain in the *ss....IF you are still getting the run around, I would consult with another lawyer and the if possible the yoyo at the banks supervisor. There will be an end to this nightmare, lets just hope it arives sooner than later... The next spell you may want to consider would be with the intent to end the insanity and bring all parties involved together and on the same page. If you cant undo the 1st...try a 2nd to bring about a positive end to the situation. I wish you and yours well, CJ

purplelady	21 Jan 2003
Of course there are those times when one really does wish to undo a spell! You can probably look that sort-of thing up on the internet or in a book. And there are those things that one wishes for and gets and then wonders why , oh why, they ever wished for that! I think that cjtarot has a good point. Concentrate on doing a spell to turn everything around for the good. Or maybe pick just one thing, whatever is the Most bothersome, and do a spell to fix or change that. Find a spell to remove the obstacles to your happiness in your new house. One thing I've found about spells, be careful how you word it. Think "what if". Think it into the future and it's effect on everyone involved. Think of what words or sentences you may have left out. Consider whether any of the wording contradicts itself. If it passes all the criteria, use it. Good Luck!

DarkElectric	21 Jan 2003
I used to work for a title firm, what we did was research titles, and discover any wonky stuff such as the horrors you are mentioning. The operative phrase here is..."Contingent on clear and marketable title." This title is NOT clear, nor is it marketable, due to the discrepancies in acreage, the illegal subdivisions, etc. Even in Maryland, where laws are different, I seriously doubt this is a marketable title, BECAUSE of those selfsame discrepancies and illegalities. My advice to you is, fire the bumbling fool who is not working in YOUR best interest, find the most trustworthy and experienced real estate lawyer you can find, and hire a private title research company to run that title back as far as they can. Experience tells me that there is possibly wonky stuff a long way back. Whomever auctioned this house knows about the illegalities, I practically guarantee it. They just hoped they would be able to unload it on some unsuspecting innocent. While the deal is still in flux, run, don't walk, to the nearest INDEPENDENT title research firm. Make sure these people are going to be working for you, not the seller. You may have to throw a little more money at the problem, ie: running the title, but it will be worth every penny. I'm so sorry this happened to you, but you may be able to legally get out of this. The sellers may not have had the legal right to auction the house without these problems being addressed. If this is the case, it is also a clear cut case of... REAL ESTATE FRAUD! I know this isn't spellwork, but ... Good Luck!

jlbvt	22 Jan 2003
DE, Thanks for the PM, It is really reassuring to be able to talk to someone who has some experience in this area! :D Quote: Originally posted by DarkElectric I used to work for a title firm, what we did was research titles, and discover any wonky stuff such as the horrors you are mentioning. The operative phrase here is..."Contingent on clear and marketable title." This title is NOT clear, nor is it marketable, due to the discrepancies in acreage, the illegal subdivisions, etc. Whomever auctioned this house knows about the illegalities, I practically guarantee it. They just hoped they would be able to unload it on some unsuspecting innocent. While the deal is still in flux, run, don't walk, to the nearest INDEPENDENT title research firm. Make sure these people are going to be working for you, not the sellerI know this isn't spellwork, but ... Good Luck! Thanks, DE and everyone for all the advice and concern. We have an attourney who is working for us, he did the title search. I am starting to get the impression he is not all that experienced in these matters, but... <<<< GOOD NEWS! >>>> Our attourney called last night and said that he had spoken to one of the attourneys at the collecting firm (which is selling the house) and said the guy was agreeable to cancelling the deal and giving us our money back without a fight! (they probably do know about all the problems like DE said) This is the best outcome we could have hoped for. It is ALMOST certain, the attourney has to confirm it with the bank that holds the deed or something, we should find out soon... When it comes to spells, I usually use intuition rather than books. This may be a really bad thing to do, and I realise now that I need to be more careful. So yesterday while I was still thinking about what to do, I got out a little box where I had put the things I kept here pertaining to the spell. I pulled out a flower I had gotten from the property which was dry now and I lit the two candles that were in there. I then burned the middle of the stem of the flower, seperating it into two pieces, and blew out the candles, focusing on dissapating the original spell, and seperating us from the house. I fully intended to do at least one of the spells suggested in this thread, but I had to go to work, so no time. It was that evening (last night) that we got the good news! I am starting to think that spells have a lot more power than I thought!

Woof	22 Jan 2003
Oh jlbvt! What good news! I'm so glad you are able to get out of these difficulties! Your distress was so palpable, I could feel it all the way out here in San Diego. I'm glad you could take some solace here and hope our collective energies helped. Woof

zorya	22 Jan 2003
i am so relieved for you jbvlt. what wonderful news. glad dark electric was there to help!

Laurel	22 Jan 2003
Very good news, jlbvt. :)

DarkElectric	22 Jan 2003
I'm so glad this is working out for you guys. I'm not surprised that the other attorney is giving in without a fight... This leads me to believe there's NO QUESTION they knew about this stuff. And no bank in their right mind wants a real estate fraud case hanging over their head, especially now. And, yes, spells DO work! But, you know that... Please, do yourselves a favour and always have title run BEFORE you purchase any property whatsoever. It's a little bit more money, but saves these kinds of headaches! Blessings, DE

pozt	24 Jan 2003
get legal advice. maybe you'll be able to find some misrepresentations that u can sue on. but usually, once you've signed a contract, even if you never looked into the terms, you are STILL bound by them.

RedWood	24 Jan 2003
have you considered...keeping the housee...but work otu terms taht make it much lower to buy? know what I mean...work with the crap and buy the house for much cheaper?

jlbvt	24 Jan 2003
Quote: Originally posted by RedWood have you considered...keeping the housee...but work otu terms taht make it much lower to buy? know what I mean...work with the crap and buy the house for much cheaper? It sounds like a good idea, but... we were the high bidders at the auction. we signed a contract with the attourneys who sold it to pay what we bid, and they are not going to try to work it out because that wouldn't pay. They could re-auction it to someone else who would pay what we were going to. It's a huge mess. We would be liable for all kinds of fees if we just defaulted on buying the house. The ONLY way for us to get out with our money back is to show that the title is unmarketable. Which it might be, but if we have to take it to court, that will cost a lot. We are still waiting on final word that they are going to let us out of the contract without a fight. We are hoping that what they told our attourney is really what they plan to do. The problems with the legality of the land and house permit and the acrege are not the only problems we had. The loan process which should have been fairly simple, was outrageously complicated. We had a new obstacle almost every day. It was the most stressful thing I have ever tried to do. I really got the impression that fate was trying everything to keep us out of that house. I think that giving up on it is the right thing to do, and we will try again with a different house in a different neighborhood. And when we do, I will only do a spell to bring us to the right house for us, and to make everything go smoothly and work out for the good of all. ;)

RedWood	24 Jan 2003
Well I do hope the next house is not so stressful..sounds like a really awful time! I hope all works out for you!

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