Missing Card: 4 of Cups

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 12 Jul 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

lunalafey	12 Jul 2003
little history, the first day in my new house (18mo. ago) I felt a spirit & said out loud (I was alone) "there's a ghost" first words spoken in the house. Through the weeks & months we discovered that it hangs out in the bathroom. The last time I did the mystery card I did a faux reading & it was hard, so this time I found 'something real' to read on. I used 3 cards as usual but the reading seemed unfinished & I could not decide what card to make the mystery because the cards flowed into each other so well. I needed one more, the mystery one & I had the ghost pick it. So here we go: Idea(*past)(**temptation) 6 swords reversed- 'crossing over' the waters, this could be a drowning (I live close to the river- there was a major flood in 1964 perhaps this is where he's coming from? But I think that this is a young boy who wanted to go to the river & did not wait for an adult) & the 'journey' into the spiritual form of a ghost. There is also the upset of the card, the worry over things not said or done. These things need to be communicated before healing can begin. 9 cups challege (*present)(**the well) this card repeats the first to a degree. The challenge is to find that place of calm, of peace & healing. To get away from the worry & have times of enjoyment. 10 cups advantage (*future)(**liberation) the card of home & happiness. I take this to be the enviroment I have brought to this place (house). Here is a secure home, we (the kids all aknowledge the ghost without fear) The card indicates a goal achieved successfully & the emotional fullfillment(for the ghost) * I found that the PPF falls into place as well. **also I found the I Ching correspondences interesting & informative Water! the river in the 6sw & the cups....I'm not suprised, he does like the bathroom, especially the tub. He has filled our shampoo bottles with water or just empties them completely. :::drum roll:::: ??MYSTERY card??.....I took the deck to the bthrm & set it on the counter & told the ghost to choose a card. I gave him about 5-10 minutes, retrieved the deck & cut it. Q: what do we need to do for you?....?????card the ghost feels a sense of worthlessness. Maybe because he has difficulty communicating to others who where in the house before. This child was taken away from the family life he enjoyed & wanted to 'finish', That life was abruptly cut off & that is worrisome for the ghost. I believe that making the ghost a welcomed member of the family may give the ghost just the thing he desires, something that no-one else did, which left the ghost feeling doubtful of ever having a childhood. The acceptance we offer could lead to the ghosts liberation.

divinerguy	12 Jul 2003
If a ghost lived in my bathroom, it wouldn't last long without a gas mask.

lunalafey	13 Jul 2003
very funny DG........now guess or get off the pot ;)

truthsayer	13 Jul 2003
Quote: Originally posted by lunalafey Q: what do we need to do for you?....?????card the ghost feels a sense of worthlessness. Maybe because he has difficulty communicating to others who where in the house before. This child was taken away from the family life he enjoyed & wanted to 'finish', That life was abruptly cut off & that is worrisome for the ghost. I believe that making the ghost a welcomed member of the family may give the ghost just the thing he desires, something that no-one else did, which left the ghost feeling doubtful of ever having a childhood. The acceptance we offer could lead to the ghosts liberation. perhaps this is cheating but i intuitively pulled the following cards while meditating on the question. 5 of cups-the ghost has lost much and feels alone. he wants to feel cared about again. 8 of swords-the ghost is bound and unable to communicate. however, he could free himself if he were to choose to do so and the offer made. 9 of swords-the ghost is filled with grief and remorse about things lost and unable to recover. he feels very alone with no one to tell his despair to. he thinks all the time about his losses. they tie him to the house. 4 of cups-the ghost is miserable alone but has been given an offer to be cared about and become a part of a family again which he is deciding whether or not to accept. i don't know if i'm on the right track but i thought i'd give it a try.

lunalafey	13 Jul 2003
as for cheating....your guess is the ? of ? .....so there's no accusations to be made

truthsayer	15 Jul 2003
okay, i'll take the plunge--4 of cups?

lunalafey	15 Jul 2003
Ah! yes indeed........your throw is quite interesting (identical readings) just with the interpritation, one to show a skeptic & say 'See! Tarot is for real!'.....but did you happen to notice... my cards~~your's ....6-sw====5-cp ....9-cp==== 8-sw ..10-cp==== 9-sw ....4-cp==== 4-cp ....the suits are reversed in the 2 readings ...and the numberes in order; minus one In all my years with the cards I have had many amazing experiences, this is another to add to the list. Unique experience for me because it involves 2 readers, 2 decks (TS, what deck did you use?) & an incredable outcome..... your turn TS.....congrats! awsome!

truthsayer	15 Jul 2003
i used my trusty dusty hanson roberts. i'm really surprized i got the answer right. sorry but i can't think of a tarot riddle right this minute. i'll have to think some.

Artemis Sans	01 Aug 2003
Wow. I would have guessed The Sun reversed.

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