What Card Am I (Literature Clues)- Saul Kripke's Name and Necessity- Solved

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 18 Nov 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

jmd	18 Nov 2003
From Saul Kripke's Name and Necessity, p 106 (a wonderful classic philosophical text :)): It is in general not the case that the reference of a name is determined by some uniquely identifying marks, some unique properties satisfied by the referent and known or believed to be true of that referent by the speaker. [...] the reference actually seems to be determined by the fact that the speaker is a member of a community of speakers who use the name. The name has been passed to him by tradition from link to link.

Mystic Zyl	18 Nov 2003
Hierophant?

jmd	18 Nov 2003
The last sentence - 'the community of speakers' - seems to indicate the possibility of the Hierophant... but not the card I had in mind :)

gloria	19 Nov 2003
Ten/Discs? once again. The crest on this card makes me think of (family) tradition and links.

jmd	19 Nov 2003
... 'fraid not :)

firemaiden	19 Nov 2003
Ten of Cups?

jmd	19 Nov 2003
Nope either :) Clue 1: it is generally the case that this card's name has as referent one of the card generally referred to as the major Arcana :)

gloria	19 Nov 2003
The World.

gloria	19 Nov 2003
Would you mind very much JMD if I were to have another go, and offer The Chariot. I have my reasons for choosing these two seemingly way off cards, but if neither of these, I shall butt out as I will have no idea. G.

Mystic Zyl	19 Nov 2003
Justice?

Gaidheal	19 Nov 2003
Ah...I may be way off the mark, but I'm thinking...the Nine of Swords?

jmd	20 Nov 2003
'tis not the World, neither Justice, nor the Chariot... and not the nine of Swords. It is, however, a Major Arcana. but not the ones suggested so far: V the Pope; VII the Chariot; VIII Justice; nor XXI the World. Clue 2: what effect does reading the passage have on you?

gloria	20 Nov 2003
The Emperor?

jmd	20 Nov 2003
... not the Emperor. I suspect his commends would have to be more clearly and simply understood...

Diana	20 Nov 2003
The Sun?

jmd	20 Nov 2003
I must admit that Kripke's Naming and Necessity does shine brightly upon many linguistic and philosophical problems - but it was definitely not the XVIIII the Sun which came to my mind's eye with the given quote :)

firemaiden	20 Nov 2003
The Magician - according to some is about the spark of language - with linguistic legerdemain - he names a thing and it surfaces from subconsious night into the light of day, as rabbits from a hat...

jmd	20 Nov 2003
Bravo :) The Magician it is! :)

firemaiden	20 Nov 2003
HAHAAHAH! Oh mon dieu, now I have to find a passage? Dio aiuti!! do I even possess any books in English?

Diana	20 Nov 2003
*Diana sulks* The Sun was a good try anyway........ firemaiden: who needs books when you have the internet at your feet (or rather at your hands, unless you type with your feet.)

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