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Literature Clue [23rd March] - Solved

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 23 Mar 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

WolfyJames  23 Mar 2004 
Here's a quote from 'The Lady of Shalott' by Tennyson:

'There she weaves by night and day
A magic web with colors gay.
She has heard a whisper say,
A curse is on her if she stay
To look down to Camelot.
She knows not what the curse may be,
And so she weaveth steadily,
And little other care hath she,
The Lady of Shalott.'

Good luck! ;) 


Phoenyx*  23 Mar 2004 
This reminds me of the picture for the Queen of Shields for Legend: Arthurian Tarot...so...is it the Queen of Disks/Pentacles/Shields? 


ncefafn  24 Mar 2004 
The Moon 


jmd  24 Mar 2004 
How odd that you pick a poem that I have only recently (re-)printed... and a wonderful one it is!

With regards to the specific quote, I too would have first chosen the Moon... but as it is taken, how about:

II the Popess/High Priestess ?

(she is at times represented with a spindle) 


Dark Eyes  24 Mar 2004 
The 6 of swords? 


gloria  24 Mar 2004 
How about The Wheel of Fortune? 


WolfyJames  24 Mar 2004 
I thought my quote would be easy to find, but after seeing your answers, I'd say that maybe it will be more difficult than I thought. So far, none of you has the right answer, worse, you're all cold. Think again. ;) 


ncefafn  24 Mar 2004 
Temperance 


tmgrl2  24 Mar 2004 
RW 9 of Pentacles...?

terri 


jmd  24 Mar 2004 
in the RWCS, given the rainbow of weaved colours, the ten of Cups ? 


WolfyJames  25 Mar 2004 
I'm sorry, but none of you has it so far. Shake the poem hard and make it talk. 


ncefafn  25 Mar 2004 
After I've shaken it, can I pick up any loose change that's fallen from its pockets?

Kim 


Lady Mary  25 Mar 2004 
Strength? 


tmgrl2  25 Mar 2004 
Ok...I'm going to do a "jmd" here (hope that's ok, jmd) and summarize....
So far:

Queent Pents
Moon
High Priestess
6Swords
Wheel of Fortune
Temperance
9 Pents
10 Cupts
Strength
and (KIM, did you mean) The Hanged Man?

I guess....The Empress....

terri 


jmd  25 Mar 2004 
... thanks for the summary, tmgrl2 :)

...here's another attempt:

'There she weaves by night and day
    weaving by night and day could easily be the Star, Moon or Sun, but also the Wheel
A magic web with colors gay.
    a web... difficult, but could again be the Wheel, though not all its 'colours' are gay
She has heard a whisper say,
A curse is on her if she stay
To look down to Camelot.
    Camelot as Tower, and curse... but who is she who has heard the whisper? lady Fortune herself?
She knows not what the curse may be,
And so she weaveth steadily,
    so what the future may bring, may bring... again the Wheel?
And little other care hath she,
The Lady of Shalott.'
    little other care... then the continuous turning of the wheel???


As the Wheel of Fortune is taken... how about anothor card which has at times been equated with the 'missing' image of Fortuna turning the Wheel... I'll suggest the [font=papyrus] Justice [/font], though I may have been too locked in my reflections:) 


ncefafn  25 Mar 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by tmgrl2
Ok...I'm going to do a "jmd" here (hope that's ok, jmd) and summarize....
So far:


and (KIM, did you mean) The Hanged Man?



Er . . . yeah! Yeah, that's it! The Hanged Man. :D

Kim 


lionette  25 Mar 2004 
Now that all my first choices have been taken, I'll have to reach out pretty far! Here goes...

The image of movement is really strong for me in : "There she weaves by night and day" and "A curse is on her if she stay". Combined with the impression of her inner strength : "And little other care hath she" ; all makes me think of that Chariot, despite the fact that a male is usually driving. (I think there is an early depiction of a female as charioteer, tho.)

So, I'll say Chariot. 


WolfyJames  25 Mar 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by ncefafn
After I've shaken it, can I pick up any loose change that's fallen from its pockets?

Kim


Take anything you want! ;)

I'm sorry but none of you has it, again. Lionette is warm though, jmd mentionned interesting things about the poem but came up with the wrong answer. 


lionette  25 Mar 2004 
oh WolfyJames, you're not giving us much help, are you? :) Do you have a particular deck/style in mind?

meanwhile I'll keep floundering around with the verse ... 


Lorem  26 Mar 2004 
I'm guessing either 8 of pents or 10 of wands. 


jmd  26 Mar 2004 
... the Star ? 


WolfyJames  26 Mar 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by jmd
'There she weaves by night and day
    weaving by night and day could easily be the Star, Moon or Sun, but also the Wheel
A magic web with colors gay.
    a web... difficult, but could again be the Wheel, though not all its 'colours' are gay
She has heard a whisper say,
A curse is on her if she stay
To look down to Camelot.
    Camelot as Tower, and curse... but who is she who has heard the whisper? lady Fortune herself?
She knows not what the curse may be,
And so she weaveth steadily,
    so what the future may bring, may bring... again the Wheel?
And little other care hath she,
The Lady of Shalott.'
    little other care... then the continuous turning of the wheel???


As the Wheel of Fortune is taken... how about anothor card which has at times been equated with the 'missing' image of Fortuna turning the Wheel... I'll suggest the [font=papyrus] Justice [/font] , though I may have been too locked in my reflections:)


Jmd, you came with interesting things here. By the way, I'm talking about the RWS deck.

In the first verse, you mentionned motion, there's a bit of focus too. In the second verse, gay colors are mentionned. As for the three other verses, you were right about the meaning, but you came up with the wrong cards; there's a curse alright, and a warning ahead. For the last verses, the Lady chooses to ignore the warning 'And little other care hath she,'.

I think I have given enough clues... ;) 


Lady Mary  26 Mar 2004 
How about the Fool?
He/She doesn't really care about the cliff. 


jmd  26 Mar 2004 
The World ? 


isthmus nekoi  26 Mar 2004 
4 of swords? (I'm thinking of Anne of Green Gables where she's floating down the river). Either that or the 7 of cups? (Are we allowed 2 guesses?.........) 


WolfyJames  26 Mar 2004 
Lady Mary is the winner! The Fool it is. The Lady of Shalott is a gay person, and she does her stuff, in her little wolrd, just like the Fool is absorbed by the flower. The whisper is the dog warning her about the cliff - the curse. But she ignores the warning, and for those who don't know, the story ends tragically.

Lady Mary, you're NEXT!!! 


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