What Card Am I? (One line quote) 30th May - Solved

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 30 May 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

jmd	30 May 2004
Aristotle Politics: [font=papyrus] Law is not for persons [who surpass in virtue] [...] and it would be ridiculous in anyone to endeavour to subject them to the laws. [/font]

Dakota	30 May 2004
hmmmmmmmm, puzzling........ Someone(thing) that is above the law by reason of virtue?? The World?

tmgrl2	30 May 2004
The Sun

OakDragon	30 May 2004
The Hierophant?

MattDouglas	30 May 2004
The Hermit! Self-contained, he has his own "laws" within.

hedgecub	30 May 2004
Or what about Justice? I've always thought that Justice makes her own laws...

starsongs	30 May 2004
possibly Judgement?

Phoenix Rising	30 May 2004
I probably would of said "Heirophant" too. But "heirophant rx" So because I'm not sure if you're doing reversals or not. So then I will choose the "fool"

jmd	30 May 2004
...none of these was the card which came principally to mind, though they each reflect indeed the quote. I didn't choose XXI the World for it stands above the realm of humans - as ascended spiritual mastery. So although worldly laws does not apply, I didn't consider it; Conversely XVIIII the Sun, for the two standing adjacent the wall, under the begign blessing of the greater light, may yet need to be subjected to worldly laws; V the Pope (Hierophant) may certainly like to be exempt from the laws and surpass in virtues - yet, to my mind, he may be a wonderful teacher and point towards that advanced state without thereby having reached it himself; VIIII the Hermit was my second choice - yet, though he may indeed have surpassed in all virtues, it would perhaps not be ridiculous to subject him to the laws, to which he would generously submit; VIII Justice indeed stands above 'mere' law, which ought, ideally, reflect it. Though Justice cannot, hence, be subjected to the Laws, and though it may be argued - as does Aristotle's immediate predecessor and teacher, that Justice includes all other virtues, it did not occur to me to relate this to its achievement within or by a person, to whom the laws need not imposed upon; As for XX Judgement, here I do view that there is liberation from the worldy laws indeed... but did not consider it as I was more reflecting on those to whom it may apply as still within this world, though perhaps transcending this exalted state of spiritual awakening.

jmd	30 May 2004
I must have pressed the reply button before you posted, Phoenix Rising... The Fool was indeed the card the quote reflected in my reflections :)

starsongs	30 May 2004
Congrats, Phoenix Rising :D jmd, thank you for listing the cards chosen and offering your thoughts on how each one reflects the quote. I enjoyed this and learned from it.. :) starsongs

Phoenix Rising	30 May 2004
Oh thanks, I wondered when I read it, that you didn't mention the "fool" so I was about to give up altogether! I've been a bit slack guys, as I've got 3 quotes to put in now! So will return

Dakota	30 May 2004
PHOENIX R. SCORES AGAIN!!! CONGRATS, PR!! jmd, one side question if I may cuz you reminded me of it in your answer-- why do tarot decks display 9 as VIIII instead of IX and ditto with 19? It confused me the first time I saw it but there must be a reason.........

jmd	31 May 2004
In early Roman numeration, there was only addition, no subtraction. So 'IX' would have meant eleven (one and ten), though it would have been an unusual way of writing it. Nine was therefore written as five and four ones (V IIII). Likewise nineteen :)

Dakota	31 May 2004
ah, I did not know that. Thank you!!

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