reading this thread will condemn your soul to eternal fire

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 18 Jun 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

cartarum	18 Jun 2004
not really, but if you read this, then you are definitly a fool. (minus our moderators, who read these out of neccessity) think about it...

mercenary30	18 Jun 2004
See? I knew I was a fool. I keep telling everyone, but they say no....... :D

Imagemaker	18 Jun 2004
Ah, but the Fool is about to have a grand adventure. I didn't want to miss it! Can I go too?

Moonbow*	18 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by mercenary30 See? I knew I was a fool. I keep telling everyone, but they say no....... :D I don't say no.... }) :P :*

Centaur	18 Jun 2004
Eternal fire actually sounds like fun. LOL. Especially for a michievous person such as myself. })

lunakasha	18 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by mercenary30 See? I knew I was a fool. I keep telling everyone, but they say no....... :D Umm....can I say that I believe you merc??? :P But they say everybody loves a fool!!! ;) So what is this thread all about....I am curious now! }) Luna (already been to hell and back)

Kiama	18 Jun 2004
Not necessarily a fool: maybe a scientists or empiricist, who has to test out all hypotheses before believing them. After all, how many of us here would simply accept such a statement as truth without first testing it? So who is really the Fool? ;) (Only kidding, I'm not really calling anyone a fool.) Now, let's try and get thic back to Tarot... Does the Fool believe such things blindly, or is he more the type to throw himself in and test what he is told, even if that may have undesirable consequences? Whaddya think? Kiama

OakDragon	18 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by lunakasha Umm....can I say that I believe you merc??? :P But they say everybody loves a fool!!! ;) So what is this thread all about....I am curious now! }) Luna (already been to hell and back) If you've already been to Hell and back, then surely you know, don't you? :D

OakDragon	18 Jun 2004
Ooops! Looks like Kiama and I posted at the same time! Isn't the Fool more likely to say "Oooh, Hell! Sounds like fun!" :P

lark	18 Jun 2004
I think the Fool is more likely to come in and try to save me from Hell.

ros	18 Jun 2004
The Fool is not a Fool because "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"

OakDragon	18 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by ros The Fool is not a Fool because "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" So, if the Fool decides to take that path, he/she's really becoming the High Priest/ess?

Flavio	18 Jun 2004
The Fool wouldn't realise he is in hell... :confused:

Luminessence	18 Jun 2004
I don't think the Fool would care if he was in hell, as long as it was interesting.

TemperanceAngel	18 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Luminessence I don't think the Fool would care if he was in hell, as long as it was interesting. Hee hee I agree, it would be one big ADVENTURE for the Fool.

OakDragon	18 Jun 2004
What other tarot characters do you think the Fool would meet there (other than the Devil, of course)? (I figured it would be appropriate to make my 666th post in this thread! }) )

lunakasha	18 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by OakDragon (I figured it would be appropriate to make my 666th post in this thread! }) ) LOL....very appropriate!!! Hmmm....does anyone else think that the Fool creates his own adventures??? Maybe making it up as he goes along..... I don't think he is afraid of hell....I think he wants to figure out what is waiting on the other side.... :) Luna

hedgecub	18 Jun 2004
Dude, eternal fire? Cool! I'll save a fortune on central heating this way ;)

Imagemaker	18 Jun 2004
Quote: I'll save a fortune on central heating this way Indeed, fire is a major factor in the survival of civilization. Eternal fire is a major boost to humankind.

cartarum	21 Jun 2004
hello, everyone! sorry about taking so long to reply! what this is about.... when someone warns you not to do something, yet you do it anyway, then you are a fool reversed. you know, yet you dont care. thus, the law cannot protect you. sort of like getting drunk and commiting murder. you are still accountable, because you know murder is wrong, yet you still do it. this is one of the reasons why waite wrote "intoxication and ignorance" as some of the divinitory meanings of the fool reversed. upright, you dont know. that is one reason why fool trumps magician, the state of knowledge, acting within ones will for ones own end. other meanings for the fool are apathy, carelessness. apathy is basically the fool reversed. to some readers, the fool can be attributed to sexual problems. one reason for this, is nullity; feeling nothing in the face of stimulas that would otherwise arouse a hetero sexual, or provoke an emotional reaction. seeing a child get hit by a car, and not feeling any thing is the fool reversed. just as committing a horrible crime, and feeling no remorse would be fool reversed. the next natural card in the cycle is the magician reversed, which would be the culmination or result. upright, as i have said elsewhere, the fool is unknowing, faithfull. in my spiral deck, an angel is guiding the shoulders of the fool, who is mesmerized by what he witnesses. normal people, who have no occult interference. are the upright fool. they are completely unprepared for the unexpected. so, you could be walking in the clutches of death, a moving car, a cliff... you are going completely on what you know(the fools sack) with only your emotions and intuition to warn you(the dog) ya see? i know you all probably heard it before, i just wanted to express what i feel, and think about it. thanks aeclectic.

ros	21 Jun 2004
interesting, thanks cartarum!

Sillanza	22 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by cartarum other meanings for the fool are apathy, carelessness. apathy is basically the fool reversed. to some readers, the fool can be attributed to sexual problems. one reason for this, is nullity; feeling nothing in the face of stimulas that would otherwise arouse a hetero sexual, or provoke an emotional reaction. seeing a child get hit by a car, and not feeling any thing is the fool reversed. just as committing a horrible crime, and feeling no remorse would be fool reversed. I really enjoyed your insights about the Fool reversed. Good hook, by the way!

TemperanceAngel	22 Jun 2004
Maybe if it wasn't in the Tarot Games and Fun Forum people may of (and probably would of) responded differently })

deedlit420	22 Jun 2004
this post is going no where. But let's say the fool did go on a journey thru hell, a la dante's inferno. What would he see?

cjtarot	22 Jun 2004
Hi, I just figured burning in hell has to be more fun than this dammmm stumach bug... I'm off to enjoy my gingerale..have a great trip and thanks for starting the thread and the great responses.. Blessings, CJ

cartarum	23 Jun 2004
i wasent sure whether it would be taken as a joke, or seriously, so i opted to put it in the games and fun forum. i am actually quite pleased with all of the responses. like " would the fool know he was in hell?" heh, i love that! or central heating? LOL!

Ivy Rhiannon	10 Jul 2004
um...maybe the fool knows hell is over the brink of the cliff, on the path he took paved with good intentions, he even packed for the trip, and maybe the dog is one of god's "let me save you child" speakers for some new church, and he is trying to ignore him, because he headed for warmer weather!:D

Ivy Rhiannon	10 Jul 2004
he he almost for got to say when I looked at this thread I surely thought cartarum was going to say..."made ya look, made ya look!";)

cartarum	15 Jul 2004
i could, he he! since doing this thread i have revised what i know of the fool i now beleive that the fool is both the occult and normal person. the major difference arises where the fool is used to designate that the spread is part of destiny. fate is what we make it. thats true, but only to the fated. seperate from the fated, are those who know. you can predict the fate of someone provided that you do not further interfere with them, and have no further contact. in other words, to someone observing someone else, to the observer, the fate for another is set. but to the fated person being observed, fate is being made. just like how you could see that person tripping on the rock ahead of him, but he could not, so he plunged. ~A~

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