Another LaLa Lyric for July 5th - Solved

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 06 Jul 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

MattDouglas	06 Jul 2004
Here the next lyric. You've probably never heard it, and I only habe because I have a freind who does live covers of it. But it's a great song. "Dinosaurs" by Dakota Sid When I sit in contemplation of our human situation I always feel a certain sense of pride Our achievements are so many and so mighty Ahh the evidence could never be denied But my reverie is shaken, my thoughts are always taken By that tragedy that happened long ago When there roamed through the land beings awesome and grand The fabulous dinosaurs Oh they were creatures in a manner quite reptilian In their unique and stylish way At one time their numbers could be reckoned in the millions But there are zero of these heroes In the modern world today Oh they had music, art, and fashion There was dinosauric passion I bet they'd be enraged and mortified When they're mentioned today and it's only to say Their brains were small and they died Now perhaps some asteroid that mother earth could not avoid Was the reason for their premature demise I've heard such things can really happen And who are we to criticize When we'll spend most any price to have the ultimate device That ensures the perfect global suicide I would venture instead that the humanoid head Is where the tinier brains reside And when we're gone our works will start to crumble Til nothin can be found Ten million years fron now some guy will stumble On our fossil and some expert will begin to expound In a labratory study to his cockroach science buddies How the evidence could never be denied They were big, dumb, and slow They couldn't go with the flow Their brains were small and they died

mercenary30	06 Jul 2004
Wheel of Fortune?

arcanalefait	06 Jul 2004
Death?

MattDouglas	06 Jul 2004
Neither of those is what I was looking for. Sorry folks.

Dark Eyes	07 Jul 2004
Wild guess.... TOWER !!!!! :)

MattDouglas	07 Jul 2004
Not the Tower either, Dark Eyes. It seems people are taking their guesses based on viewing the song as about the extinction of the dinosaurs. I was thinking more of the view of how we envision the dinosaurs nowadays.

littlehermit	07 Jul 2004
six of cups?

mercenary30	07 Jul 2004
The Fool and his journey through the ages?

MattDouglas	07 Jul 2004
Welcome to the gaming, littlehermit! Sorry but it isn't the six of cups. Merc, it's not the Fool either.

arcanalefait	08 Jul 2004
Heirophant?

mercenary30	08 Jul 2004
How about Judgement?

Dakota	08 Jul 2004
6 of Wands? A card of victory but also a warning against arrogance.............. :T6W

MattDouglas	08 Jul 2004
No to all, keep tryin'!

littlehermit	08 Jul 2004
World?

Luminessence	08 Jul 2004
The Chariot, for arrogance?

MattDouglas	08 Jul 2004
Still a no go. Luminessence, you're perhaps on the right track. I'm not looking just at the arrogance, but more specifically how that arrogance and other misconceptions about the viewpoint of humans towards dinosaurs in the song (and evolved cockroaches toward humans) ends up being limiting and disappointing.

littlehermit	08 Jul 2004
hmm. is four of pentacles on the right track then?

Dark Eyes	09 Jul 2004
What about the emperor...? he is so rigid and structured, he doesn't always think outside the square...? ;)

Dakota	09 Jul 2004
Okay, it's not: The Fool The Heirophant The Chariot Wheel of Fortune Death The Tower Judgement The World 6 of Cups 6 of Wands Other guesses we don't have a response to yet: The Emperor 4 of Pentacles I will venture "The 2 of Swords" for refusal to see the true situation :D

MattDouglas	09 Jul 2004
Y'all are thinkin' along the right track now, but haven't yet guessed the specific card I picked.

Luminessence	09 Jul 2004
4 of Cups?

littlehermit	09 Jul 2004
knight of swords?

MattDouglas	10 Jul 2004
Still not it!

littlehermit	10 Jul 2004
The Devil, for needing to confront the fact that we are arrogant and little-brained and could go the same way as the dinosaurs?

MattDouglas	10 Jul 2004
littlehermit, nope, not the Devil. I'm looking not for what could happen, but how we are already limiting ourselves by looking at the dinosaurs strictly materially, and how future people's could limit themselves in how they look at us today.

littlehermit	11 Jul 2004
heh, QED i'm one of those people who bangs her head on something until she gets it. sounds like it's got to be pentacles, but I'm still getting stuck at the 4... hmm... 10 of pentacles?

Satori	11 Jul 2004
The Empress

MattDouglas	11 Jul 2004
Not the Empress! Not the 10 of Pentacles or the 4! Again I'm looking for a short-sighted attitude. The one conveyed by the song isn't perserverance to get over frustration because one just isn't seeing, but rather the just not seeing causing self-pity and with that the inability to fully appreciate anyone or anything else. The conclusion can be reached using both using both RWCS imagery or Thoth titles. Cards guessed so far: Fool Empress Emperor Hierophant Chariot Wheel of Fortune Death Devil Tower Judgment World 6 of Wands 4 and 6 of Cups. 2 and Knight of Swords. 4 and 10 of Pentacles.

Satori	11 Jul 2004
7 of cups

MattDouglas	12 Jul 2004
Not the 7 of Cups. While the 7 of Cups may represent the overuse of the imagination, what I'm looking for represents the underuse of it, and the limitations of a strictly material viewpoint.

Dark Eyes	12 Jul 2004
I know this is a very long shot, MattDouglas, you have got us stumped with this one ! I am going to guess the 5 of Pents. ..... My reason for this is........ sometimes this card can represent not appreciating what was, is, or what one once had. It may be necessary to force ourselves to change our way of thinking when this card appears and hence our lives can change through acceptance and realisation of what is really important to us. We suddenly realise we are lucky to have what we have, or that which we once had..... ....................... :confused:.... D.

MattDouglas	12 Jul 2004
Sorry, Dark Eyes, not it! You are pretty close to what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a card with similar meaning, but focuses more on what one really had done and gained as opposed to the 5 of pents which focuses on what one has.

Dark Eyes	12 Jul 2004
O.K. MattDouglas, This is a tricky one allright !!! Now I will make another very wild guess.... ..........8 of swords?? Someone who has their blinkers on...? ;)

Satori	12 Jul 2004
King of Swords

MattDouglas	12 Jul 2004
Still aint got it! Y'all are really diggin' for this one. Unlike the people and roaches in the song, try imagining more than just what you've found digging in the dirt. Besides, not having found it yet doesn't have to be looked at as unsuccessful.

Satori	12 Jul 2004
Matt, are you gloating? Do I have to remind you that it isn't nice to gloat.....now quit it!

Luminessence	12 Jul 2004
Is it the 9 of Pentacles?

Satori	12 Jul 2004
The Hermit.

MattDouglas	13 Jul 2004
Sorry, not the 9 of Pentacles or the Hermit. Elf, I'm not gloating; what you thought was gloating, was my giving a clue. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

littlehermit	13 Jul 2004
ok, less digging... Five of Cups?

Luminessence	13 Jul 2004
5 of Swords? I often see this card as an indication of taking the wrong path and looking in the wrong places, so it could indicate being limited by looking at the wrong aspects of the situation. (And I suppose even if this isn't the answer to the clue, it certainly describes our search for the answer... :))

arcanalefait	13 Jul 2004
Sticking with the pentacles...is it the 6 of Pents?

Satori	13 Jul 2004
sorry, Matt I was just fooling with you, not really upset...this is just a toughie... I'm losing track of the guesses..... ummm....7 of swords

MattDouglas	13 Jul 2004
Y'all are getting really close. I think someone will guess it real soon. Guessed so far: Fool, Empress, Emperor, Hierophant, Chariot, Hermit, Wheel of Fortune, Death, Devil, Tower, Judgment, World Wands: 6 Cups: 4, 5, 6, & 7 Swords: 2, 5, 7, 8, Knight, & King Pentacles: 4, 5, 6, 9, & 10

Satori	13 Jul 2004
Magician?

MattDouglas	13 Jul 2004
No, Elf, not the Magician.

Satori	13 Jul 2004
mattdouglas, who is it? No don't tell..... Knight of Pentacles?

MattDouglas	14 Jul 2004
Nope, but it's closer than the Magician.

arcanalefait	14 Jul 2004
King of Pentacles?

Satori	14 Jul 2004
Ace of Pentacles

Luminessence	14 Jul 2004
Queen of Pentacles?

MattDouglas	14 Jul 2004
Y'all are close and seem to be thinking in the correct general category but still haven't gotten it.

Luminessence	14 Jul 2004
7 of Pentacles, for limitation and being stuck?

MattDouglas	15 Jul 2004
HOOOOOOOOOOOOORAY! Luminessence has it! I chose the 7 of pentacles, because it shows someone looking as if he's worn himslef out for nothing, when in fact the tree is growing pentacles. Also, in the Thoth this card is called "failure." It's not about literal failure, so much as how failure is the result of our perception by not seeing anything beyond the specific result we were looking for. Also, the card correspond with Saturn in Taurus; Saturn (limitation) with Taurus (material possession). The song is about how we judge the dinosaurs by strictly the material measurements we make from their bones, and how in the future cockroaches may treat us the same way. Over to you, Luminessence!

Satori	15 Jul 2004
Wooooohooooo Luminessence!!! Good job!

arcanalefait	15 Jul 2004
Wow! That was a toughie! What fun! Arcana

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