About the Tarot Gods?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 06 Dec 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

TemperanceAngel	06 Dec 2004
Do they have a name (s) and if so are they named after Tarot cards? Could a Tarot God be called Devil :confused: If they are not named after Tarot cards, what then? What culture do these so called Tarot Gods originate from? Atlantis? Australia? Africa? Somewhere else? I need some answers!

Phoenix	06 Dec 2004
I have never heard of there being any gods who rule over the tarot. I've heard of ones that ruled over divination and prophecy, but nothing as specific as tarot. The only thing that comes to mind are thw runes, which have a god associated with each rune.

TemperanceAngel	06 Dec 2004
Maybe we need to create some then!!!!!

Thirteen	06 Dec 2004
TemperanceAngel wrote: Maybe we need to create some then!!!!! The only problem I see with that is that different decks might have different opinions on which gods they wanted. The mythic tarot, for example, which is all greek myths, would certainly want greek gods, the various pagan decks would want various pagan gods (including Norse), and the Thoth deck would probabaly want Baphomet. And how many gods does the tarot need? And what would those gods do for the tarot that it can't already do for itself? ;)

TemperanceAngel	06 Dec 2004
Thirteen wrote: The only problem I see with that is that different decks might have different opinions on which gods they wanted. The mythic tarot, for example, which is all greek myths, would certainly want greek gods, the various pagan decks would want various pagan gods (including Norse), and the Thoth deck would probabaly want Baphomet. Good point Thirteen! Maybe we should have only one Tarot God, or should it be a Goddess? ;)

Phoenix	06 Dec 2004
Thirteen wrote: The only problem I see with that is that different decks might have different opinions on which gods they wanted. The mythic tarot, for example, which is all greek myths, would certainly want greek gods, the various pagan decks would want various pagan gods (including Norse), and the Thoth deck would probabaly want Baphomet. And how many gods does the tarot need? And what would those gods do for the tarot that it can't already do for itself? ;) The real question remains: Why does the tarot need gods?

Rhiannon	06 Dec 2004
Perhaps the God/dess should have 22 heads? Then it could have a head with some sort of reference to each cultural deck... a greek head, a norse head, etc. Wings definitely, the god/dess needs wings. But fairy wings or angel wings? Perhaps a set of both? ;)

TemperanceAngel	06 Dec 2004
Phoenix you have raised a good point....but also this thread was started for a bit of fun and humour ;) A Goddess with 22 heads...hmmmm, do you think that is enough heads Rhiannon? Maybe she needs 78?

Rhiannon	06 Dec 2004
Well, I was thinking that the other 56 cards could be arms and legs and just the majors would be represented as heads. Pentacles definitely need to be legs, I think... foundations you know. ;)

Phoenix	06 Dec 2004
Ahh, well...my mistake. I read your post, and I wasn't sure whether this was supposed to be a serious post or not.

TemperanceAngel	06 Dec 2004
Sorry Phoenix, I just presume that everyone knows about my bent humour... Arms to be Wands, as Wands are long and useful and would make wonderful arms :D

littlehermit	06 Dec 2004
Then the Swords would be at the ends of the arms... long fingernails maybe? :D

Diana	07 Dec 2004
TemperanceAngel: I don't believe you do not have a subscription to the "Tarot Gods Herald". It's a weekly newspaper - gets delivered right to your doorstep each Sunday morning. Perhaps they don't deliver to Australia? :( Now you obviously haven't been following tarot god history - because you seem to be ignorant of a number of matters. Let me explain: In the olden days, the tarot gods were assigned their position for life. At first, they thought this was cool: "Everlasting power" and all that crap. But after a while, they realised that this meant also "Everlasting work". So they set up new rules. A decent salary, 6 weeks paid holiday a year, one day off a week (usually Saturdays - but they leave a telephonist to take urgent messages) and retirement at the age of 56 (a very symbolic number for them.) Now, how do they choose who gets to be a new god? Well, they've obviously read their Herodotus. And their Aristotle, and their Plato. They've discussed democracy till they're blue in the face. In the end, they decided to follow the system practiced in Antique times: they draw lots and hope for the best. And they've come to the conclusion that their system works just as well, and probably even better than the one on earth. And it saves an AWFUL lot of energy in campaigning. (They don't have money - they use Energy for all their needs.) They've built a BEAUTIFUL and LUXURIOUS heavenly palace to live in. It hovers up at the top of a mountain in the southern regions of France. On occasion, they visit other regions of the world during their holidays, but are always happy to return to the top of their sacred mountain.

TemperanceAngel	07 Dec 2004
Aahhh now Diana ignorant is a very harsh word indeed, are you sure you really mean that? So France eh? Never heard of that myth myself.... *TA goes to Google and sees what the Google God has to say*

Alissa	07 Dec 2004
TemperanceAngel wrote: A Goddess with 22 heads...hmmmm, do you think that is enough heads Rhiannon? Maybe she needs 78? OMG a (female) deity with 78 different things to say... no *wonder* I have trouble figuring out what my cards are trying to say so often.... Figuring out what what just ONE woman is trying to say is hard enough. (I should know, I can barely figure out what I'm saying half the time).

Eco74	07 Dec 2004
Well, they may live in France, but they do still speak in a language we can all understand.. Namely Tarot. ;)

Majecot	07 Dec 2004
Diana wrote: They've built a BEAUTIFUL and LUXURIOUS heavenly palace to live in. It hovers up at the top of a mountain in the southern regions of France. On occasion, they visit other regions of the world during their holidays, but are always happy to return to the top of their sacred mountain. Shrouded by magical mists that shield them from the mortal world? Diana you are very lucky to know where they are located. ( I hear only a select few actually know) Have you seen it? I think a goddess with 22 heads is a bit scarey, don't you? Goddess' with one head are a bit formidable, I hope she/they don't have 22 heads.. and 56 arms and legs ( I think I feel a nightmare coming on).

Imagemaker	07 Dec 2004
22 heads is wa-ay too scary--could we say a female god with 22 masks? (If they're moods, I have double that number, at least.)

cait_inthe_moon	07 Dec 2004
So each head would represent a card from the majors? That would be interesting.. would the hanged man head be upside down?

Alta	07 Dec 2004
I am having trouble deciding if this is Chat or Tarot Fun & Games.

TemperanceAngel	07 Dec 2004
Sorry Marion, was just trying to bring some humour into the Talking Tarot Forum... How about it goes to tarot Games and Fun, as I personally am enjoying the fun and games of building a tarot God/esses(s) :D Or delete the thread and I will beging a new one there??

Fudugazi	07 Dec 2004
Rhiannon wrote: Perhaps the God/dess should have 22 heads? Then it could have a head with some sort of reference to each cultural deck... a greek head, a norse head, etc. Wings definitely, the god/dess needs wings. But fairy wings or angel wings? Perhaps a set of both? ;) Woho! Postmodern tarot gods, to go with all the postmodern tarot decks! Defininitely a multiplicity, though, and let's hope they don't argue about which deck is best })

TemperanceAngel	07 Dec 2004
Helvetica wrote: Woho! Postmodern tarot gods, to go with all the postmodern tarot decks! Defininitely a multiplicity, though, and let's hope they don't argue about which deck is best }) That's very funny, Helvetica, glad to see your humour is about as wicked as mine :D

Diana	07 Dec 2004
Helvetica wrote: Defininitely a multiplicity, though, and let's hope they don't argue about which deck is best }) No, they argue about dogs. (Ask Moongold... she knows all about dogs. :D )

mac22	07 Dec 2004
TemperanceAngel wrote: Do they have a name (s) and if so are they named after Tarot cards? Could a Tarot God be called Devil :confused: If they are not named after Tarot cards, what then? What culture do these so called Tarot Gods originate from? Atlantis? Australia? Africa? Somewhere else? I need some answers! Tarot gods ---sorry TA i've never encountered any. if you find any let me know

TemperanceAngel	07 Dec 2004
mac22 wrote: Tarot gods ---sorry TA i've never encountered any. if you find any let me know The thing is I don't think I ever will encounter any because I don't believe they exist, that's between you and me macc22 ;) , that's why I am going to create one (many }) )....

Alta	08 Dec 2004
Moved to Chat because of content.

zorya	08 Dec 2004
moved to tarot games and fun. :laugh:

Fudugazi	08 Dec 2004
zorya wrote: moved to tarot games and fun. :laugh: Are we witnessing a battle between two tarot gods - Marion and Zorya - as to where this thread belongs?

Flavio	08 Dec 2004
I think a Tarot Goddess/God should be an appealing creature because its mission would be bring Tarot to public awareness, if the Goddess/God has to shown cards all the time (maybe reflecting her/his mood) the 1st idea I had was some TV screen in the belly like the teletubbies :D but that maybe would ruin the appealing factor... If Tarot Gods will be created, shall we also create Tarot Demons?

Fudugazi	08 Dec 2004
Flavio wrote: If Tarot Gods will be created, shall we also create Tarot Demons? Some of the gods spoken of here are also demons, or were thought so. As tarot cards have positive and negative meanings within their range and energy, one can assume that tarot gods that preside over individual cards (or one many-headed godess - have we decided?) will also have a demonic manifestation. Like the Empress being the sexy lover and the man-eating maniac.

Flavio	08 Dec 2004
Helvetica wrote: Some of the gods spoken of here are also demons, or were thought so. As tarot cards have positive and negative meanings within their range and energy, one can assume that tarot gods that preside over individual cards (or one many-headed godess - have we decided?) will also have a demonic manifestation. Like the Empress being the sexy lover and the man-eating maniac. I like that take, Tarot Demigods as we all with shades instead of beign 100% black or white entities.

Lurea	08 Dec 2004
This is sounding like a pantheon! :) And like any pantheon, it has to have its minor characters. May I suggest a large, quarrelsome family of Essences, each attributed to a different deck? Since different decks have different meanings, they would be constantly jockeying to have their meanings taken up by the major Card Deities. :laugh: The Hanson Roberts Taroessence would be a very pretty but surprisingly hard-spoken young woman. The Goddess Taroessence would be very kind and gentle, and wish that everyone would just get along. ;)

maria42airam	08 Dec 2004
Maybe the Tarot goddess has 22 heads, but doesn't wear them all at the same time. She wears one each day for 22 days and then for 6 to 7 days she goes headless since she isn't fit for polite company. :)

Fudugazi	08 Dec 2004
Lurea_aure wrote: This is sounding like a pantheon! :) And like any pantheon, it has to have its minor characters. May I suggest a large, quarrelsome family of Essences, each attributed to a different deck? Since different decks have different meanings, they would be constantly jockeying to have their meanings taken up by the major Card Deities. Quarrelsome, undoubtedly. But they all get on when attacked from the outside. They fall in and out of love with each other, start feuds that last generations, and rule poor hapless humans like pawns. Having tried such gods before, I'm not sure humans want to return to such haplessitude. I think humans might have become Protestant about tarot and want a direct line without intermediaries. Besides, who gets to be Top God, Zeus of the Tarot? (Helvetica ducks the volumes that come swinging her way as she starts another "one True Tarot" argument).

Fudugazi	08 Dec 2004
maria42airam wrote: Maybe the Tarot goddess has 22 heads, but doesn't wear them all at the same time. She wears one each day for 22 days and then for 6 to 7 days she goes headless since she isn't fit for polite company. :) LOL :laugh: but who ever said Tarot was polite? Mine can be downright RUDE sometimes! That's gods for you, no manners (well, except that nice Queen of Pentacles, and her pedandic Knight, who's just the type to bore you at parties with a complete exposé of his new computer program).

firemaiden	08 Dec 2004
My tarot Gods are known to be very rude. Actually, they are mocking. They love to point out the obvious, and then snicker. Also, like a sullen teenager, they love to give me snooty answers like: "Where are you going?" "Out..." "What kind of work are you looking for?" "A job" "What are you going to wear?" "Clothes..."

Alissa	08 Dec 2004
:D ROFLMAO~! :D Thats brilliant fire, mine behave the same way at times! And, like talking to teens, you have to become downright LITERAL in your questions in order to get any where!!

Pocono Platypus	09 Dec 2004
Fabulous thread! The Tarot god is the World -- certainly, All in One

TemperanceAngel	09 Dec 2004
Ooooo, I do like the idea of 22 masks and a Pantheon, oh what fun!

Ivy Rhiannon	14 Dec 2004
Thirteen wrote: The only problem I see with that is that different decks might have different opinions on which gods they wanted. The mythic tarot, for example, which is all greek myths, would certainly want greek gods, the various pagan decks would want various pagan gods (including Norse), and the Thoth deck would probabaly want Baphomet. And how many gods does the tarot need? And what would those gods do for the tarot that it can't already do for itself? ;) Exactly like people...umm? And your question as well...What would those gods do for us that we can't already do for ourselves? I wonder if this is what the creators sounded like when they made the world. :D Very interesting indeed...

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