The Tower - Major Tom's Deck and WTC

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 13 Sep 2001, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Major Tom	13 Sep 2001
Sitting here watching the terrorist atrocity unfold on my TV - it really struck me that I was witnessing the physical manifestation of the archtypal Tower! It really hit me like a physical blow! Always keen to put experience to use - I've created a new Tower card for Major Tom's tarot. You can see it on my profile }> I have to say - I'm not entirely happy with the quality of the photo of the World Trade Centre that I used. If anyone knows where I might get a better (higher resolution) photo? Your thoughts on the physical manifestion, the card, or the photo would be appreciated }>

purplelady	13 Sep 2001
At one point on t.v. they showed a close up where people were actually flinging themselves out of the high story windows of the wtc's , I suppose to escape the smoke inhalation ,and I thought, sheeez! Whoever created the tower card centuries ago must've skipped ahead to the future and Seen it! I like your tower card major tom!

New River	13 Sep 2001
Hi Major Tom! I believe i put this in another thread but yes, i agree! it was exactly like seeing the Tower card come to life! i'm sure many high res photos will be available in the near future. love, light and peace, New River

MeeWah	13 Sep 2001
Major Tom: It seems "to fit" the look of the other cards you've created thus far. It is riveting! No offense, but it has an eerie feeling to it--one that comes by naturally, one would suppose because of what I associate the card with now. I was at work when I heard of the destruction of the WTC or the Twin Towers & thought of The Tower card.

cj	13 Sep 2001
Major Tom, There are a few problems with using the The World Trade Center and the Tower: The only feeling I get is sorrow and greif from your Towen. The Tower has always cried release to me not sorrow. People may see this as a way to glorify the attack. This card will evoke painful memories for many people. I hope my response is the only neg. one because I think it is wonderful that you are creating a custom deck. cj

cj	13 Sep 2001
Major Tom, I think it is wonderful that you are making a deck, BUT... The Tower card you created using the World Trade Center feels verrrrry wrong to me. I look at this card and see pain and suffering. Maybe it's to soon to use painful images to evoke personal insight. The true meaning of the attack is just to fresh. cj

Major Tom	14 Sep 2001
Quote: cj (14 Sep, 2001 12:30): Major Tom, There are a few problems with using the The World Trade Center and the Tower: The only feeling I get is sorrow and greif from your Towen. The Tower has always cried release to me not sorrow. People may see this as a way to glorify the attack. This card will evoke painful memories for many people. I hope my response is the only neg. one because I think it is wonderful that you are creating a custom deck. cj Thank you for this CJ - I rather expect others will feel the same as you. IMHO - The Tower card should evoke strong emotions. I can assure you there is no intention on my part to glorify the attack. My intent is to create as you say a custom deck utilising photos of people and places in my world. The destruction of the WTC is the most obvious physical manifestation of the archtypal Tower that I have ever seen.

Major Tom	14 Sep 2001
Purplelady, New River & MeeWah - Thank you for your comments. I'm glad you like the card.

Kiama	14 Sep 2001
Major Tom: How many cards have you done now? And is that you in the Magician card? Who have you used for the court cards, and how have you done the Star and Death? Do you still need anyone to appear in your Tarot cards? Kiama

Major Tom	14 Sep 2001
Quote: Kiama (14 Sep, 2001 17:52): Major Tom: How many cards have you done now? And is that you in the Magician card? Who have you used for the court cards, and how have you done the Star and Death? Do you still need anyone to appear in your Tarot cards? Kiama I've completed 17 cards so far - this is my 2nd version of the Tower. The first showed the local church tower :D Yes, that's me in the Magician card :D I'm using people I know (friends & family) for all the cards. I haven't yet done either the Star or Death. Any women with long blond hair wish to volunteer for the Star? :D Yes, I still need people to appear in the cards. Kiama - you've got mail :D

faunabay	14 Sep 2001
Major Tom, I didn't realize you were so cute!! Too bad you're in England and I'm here in the US. LOL You do make a great magician! I could see myself as Strength. I can definitely relate and in numerology it's my life's goal card.

cj	14 Sep 2001
Major Tom, I know you have posted pictures of your other cards (From the other posts mentioning them). Is there a way for others to see them. I promise no neg. remarks..Your Tower just caught me off guard. Thank you CJ

tarotbear	18 Sep 2001
The Tarot School had a pic on their website that captured a falling man from the WTC buildings- and the photo caught him upside down, and in the actual position of the hanged man. A very disturbing image of a man (now dead - R.I.P.) frozen in suspension forever with the Tower behind him. I'm available for print work - but you're in England and I'm in SE Connecticut, USA!

tarotbear	18 Sep 2001
Dear cj - I had a cousin on the seventh floor of the first tower when the plane hit- he is fine and got out and away in time. Although the concept seems wrong to you, the image is so archetypical that you have to look past what actually happened. Major Tom is in no way trying to denigrate what happened or make light of those who died, nor support the people who did this, even if the Tower card is about destruction of something built for the wrong reasons and has been destroyed. I, in fact, will use the image of the WTC attack as a description when I next teach a Tarot class.

arizonagirl	19 Sep 2001
Major Tom - How can we see the other cards you've completed? Thanks.

Major Tom	20 Sep 2001
Quote: arizonagirl (19 Sep, 2001 23:19): Major Tom - How can we see the other cards you've completed? Thanks. There's six cards posted right here on Aeclectic.net }> As for the others - I don't have them up anywhere. *Sigh* Suppose I should think about a website.

arizonagirl	20 Sep 2001
Major Tom - They are wonderful! Wish that the others could be viewed. Thanks again.

Marysia	06 Oct 2001
Quote: Major Tom (14 Sep, 2001 18:15): Quote: Do you still need anyone to appear in your Tarot cards? Kiama I haven't yet done either the Star or Death. Any women with long blond hair wish to volunteer for the Star? :D Yes, I still need people to appear in the cards. Maybe you could use one of my photos? See http://www.marysia.com/ The more recent photos are red-headed but the earlier ones are blonde and there is a good range.

Thirteen	06 Oct 2001
Quote: I haven't yet done either the Star or Death. Any women with long blond hair wish to volunteer for the Star? :D Yes, I still need people to appear in the cards. Not that I'm volunteering anyone, but unless you're trying to copy RW, why long blonde hair? I've seen beautiful tarot cards where the Star lady has had long black hair, or been dark skinned--decks with Asian, African and American Indian women for the Star card. Er, also, do you plan to go classic Star and have the woman, well, in the buff? If so, you might want to include that in your search criteria (Long blond hair and willingness to pose nude....)

Major Tom	08 Oct 2001
Quote: Thirteen (07 Oct, 2001 08:18): Quote: I haven't yet done either the Star or Death. Any women with long blond hair wish to volunteer for the Star? :D Yes, I still need people to appear in the cards. Not that I'm volunteering anyone, but unless you're trying to copy RW, why long blonde hair? I've seen beautiful tarot cards where the Star lady has had long black hair, or been dark skinned--decks with Asian, African and American Indian women for the Star card. Er, also, do you plan to go classic Star and have the woman, well, in the buff? If so, you might want to include that in your search criteria (Long blond hair and willingness to pose nude....) :D Actually the model I'm using for the majors is the BOTA (but I'm not sticking that close) }> :D Actually these days I've been thinking she should have red hair! :D In the buff would be best but I'm open to other solutions. }> Thirteen - have you given any thought to which card you'd like to be? }>

faunabay	08 Oct 2001
Major Tom, Didn't you say somewhere your girlfriend had red hair? ;) Kind of like red hair do you? :-) LOL

Kiama	08 Oct 2001
Major Tom: I've got red hair... He he. ;p :* ;p :* Kiama

Major Tom	09 Oct 2001
Thirteen - This is an invitation. Would you please appear as a card in Major Tom's tarot? E-mail me. }> Faunabay - I've said this before: You are very wise. :D All my friends know I have a 'thing' about red hair. Kiama - I know you have red hair sweetheart. :-) :* Sorry to say this but, you're too young to be the Star card. :'( I'm very happy you're to be the Princess of Wands. }>

Kiama	09 Oct 2001
*Kiama punches air with fist* DAMNIT! And I SO wanted to be a naked Star woman! *Pouts and stomps off in a strop* ;p :* ;p :* He he he he he. Kiama

tarotbear	09 Oct 2001
2-3 weeks ago I was ALMOST naked on a men's site - and I'm almost balding.....Does that help? hehehe

Major Tom	10 Oct 2001
:D :D ROTFL My girlfriend came over straight from work last night and told me she'd been reading this thread. :D "Everybody on that board wants to get their kit off for you," she said. :D

Kiama	10 Oct 2001
Is that really such a bad thing? Ah well. Everyone say HI to Major Tom's girlfriend who's probably reading these forums right now! HI MAJOR TOM'S GIRLFRIEND! :-D Hey, Major: Any chance of converting her to aeclectic membership? He he... Kiama

Major Tom	10 Oct 2001
Quote: Kiama (10 Oct, 2001 18:00): Hey, Major: Any chance of converting her to aeclectic membership? He he... Kiama, Well, I certainly read the board before I joined. ;-) :D

Kiama	10 Oct 2001
My boyf was kinda converted too. he read the boards cuz I did, and he eventually joined... Alas, he does not post very much. He's more of a lurker. MESSAGE TO MAJOR TOM'S GIRLFRIEND: Join! Join! Join! Join! Post! Post! You will join us.... Resistance is futile! ;p Kiama

DarkElectric	11 Oct 2001
The Tower. Not even one week before the horrible events of Sept 11, I drew the Tower in my reading, in the 'environment' position. "Well",thought I, "Everything is going along splendidly in life, what's this all about?" Nothing in my personal sphere was going wrong, as is usually the case when this card erupts. And then- WTC. And subsequent war. That's the Tower, allright. Here are my stats to volunteer for the Death card. Long black hair, blue eyes. Age,31 (as of Nov 1, 2001) Pale skin, former model. Possibly intriguing looking enough to qualify as Death. Not cadaverous, but perhaps mysterious. If you want to see, let me know. I'll provide a photo! Oh, and to your girlfriend...I'm very happily attached, Don't worry on my account!

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