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Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 10 Feb 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.



Midnight_Waking  10 Feb 2002 
I have a deck of tarot cards, and with no money to pay someone else to do it, I often do readings for myself. I find that at times I do let my own emotions or involvements hinder my take on what the cards are telling me, and I often realize it later when something happens to remind me... but I don't think reading for yourself is bad. What do you guys think about it? 


Pollux  10 Feb 2002 
Well, I read A LOT for myself, actually I ONLY read for myself !!! :D
Sometimes I have the same feeling as you. But lately this has faded somehow, I manage to realize better - that's maybe a problem of tools, I mean, your relationship with the deck, or something related to reading itself...
I used to have to same, to sum up, but now it seems to be over. :-)

Lately I've recieved two new decks, so I'm starting to give readings with GILL. To sort out the money problem, I decided I could read for money (little, of course, maybe at querent's will; and I've always read "for free" so far). The money I gain I won't uild a Villa, of course, but I'll use to buy books about Taorts, Astrology, wicca and everything that could broaden my esoteric horisonts... I don't even feel guilty this way! :-)
It is a whole-harted suggestion, yous see. :D 


Scorpion  10 Feb 2002 
Quote:
Midnight_Waking (10 Feb, 2002 16:51):
... but I don't think reading for yourself is bad. What do you guys think about it?


Hi, Midnight Waking!

I don't think reading for yourself is a bad thing at all! However, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "bad" - unless you're thinking along the lines of it's something you're not supposed to do for yourself? I think that's a bit of a hangover from the days when it was regarded as unacceptable to want to know your own future, but somehow OK to do it for everybody else.

That said, I don't read for myself very often, but plenty of people do. It is certainly easy to let your readings be influenced by your own feeling/moods etc and to me that's where the Tarot comes in useful: it's like having an overview where you can mentally detach yourself and view it all as if you were someone else. It's very useful for promoting meditation on problems and showing different aspects of a situation.

I suspect that you'll find most people here have read for themselves at some point, maybe for the same reasons as you. I eventually got bored of reading for myself and then pretending to be other people, until I thought why not try it on the people themselves? It's quite a thrill to get someone else's reaction - and Pollux is right: if people want your skills and are prepared to pay for it, it can (and does) provide a little extra money for some luxuries! Maybe if you were to go that route, you'd decide that you didn't actually need to pay anybody else for a reading anyway! 


Thirteen  10 Feb 2002 
Quote:
Midnight_Waking (10 Feb, 2002 16:51):
I find that at times I do let my own emotions or involvements hinder my take on what the cards are telling me, and I often realize it later when something happens to remind me... but I don't think reading for yourself is bad. What do you guys think about it?


This question gets asked a lot. As I think I mentioned in another post, we all read for ourselves. We almost have to in order to learn how to read the cards at all. The problem, as you so rightly surmise, is that it's often difficult to be "objective" or even intuitive with ourselves. Like, if you'd really fallen for someone, and you laid out the cards asking, "Are they as interested in me as I am in them?" You might well interpet the cards toward what you want to hear, not what they're really trying to tell you.

Frankly, I trust someone else to read for me a whole lot more than I trust reading for myself at this point. Another reader can be focused, objective and intuitive. I, on the other hand, know *too* much about myself and tarot card interpetations; so when a card comes up I can see all things it *might* be. Hard to cull through all that. Easy to over-think the cards and their meanings, to not be able to see the forest for the trees.

That said, no, it's not bad to read for yourself. But it's perhaps not the best reading you'll get if a reading is what you want (as compared to just learning, or refreshing your knowledge of the cards).

But hey, you're on a forum filled with readers. It's not like you have to read for yourself all the time. I think we ought to have a "do a reading for me" section where people can exchange readings for readings.

Just a thought. 


jade  10 Feb 2002 
i read for myself all the time. i find that my readings for myself are much more accurate than when someone else attempts to read me.

i feel that if i can remove the prejudice and 'wanting to read only good' for myself then in turn, i give my clients a way better reading. :)

in light,
jade

ps reading for ourselves isn't right or wrong............it's just that some people like to or can and some people don't like to or can't! 


divinerguy  10 Feb 2002 
I generally don't do readings for myself, and I don't want people to read for me.

I like to let life come at me without warning.

GAry 


silvereye  10 Feb 2002 
I often do readings for others but I seldom do readings for myself. 


Ramses  11 Feb 2002 
I think reading for yourself is Ok, but you have to be carefull...
As many people say, as long as you donīt make a habit out of that...itīs alright...
People just cannot depend on tarot to live, to make choices...weīve to live ourlives...and use tarot in case of necessity, or for self-knowledge...
Itīs alright...but too much of anything is not that good...

LOVE, PEACE AND HARMONY TO YOU ALL !!!!!!!!! 


Lilliana  11 Feb 2002 
Every now and again I will do a reading for myself. I don't read for myself very often because I would rather live my life without speculating on every little outcome of every little thing I do.
I don't think there is anything *wrong* with reading for yourself, as long as you don't rely on the tarot or use it as an emotional crutch.

I don't have a big problem with being objective with myself, but I have a habit of skimming over my own readings. I usually spend about 40 mins on someone else's reading, but tend to only spend 15 mins or so on my own.

Lilli 


Pollux  11 Feb 2002 
Well, of course when you get dependent on something, we may well talk of PATHOLOGY!!! :-)
I don't think anyone can get addicted to self-reading. :-)

I love reading for myself - I mean A LOT because I'm intense when I do, but actually have a reading every week, and never about practical problems. I love reading for meditation, to understand myself, where I'm going, if I may do something better, you see...
I really like it. I manage to gain precious insights.
And I never had problems with objectivity - my Saturn in Libra exalted at birth is something!!! I'm objective as a blade :-)
I think it is also very helpful to get a contact with the cards.
As if they were a sort of friend. Someone to talk to. :-)

P.S. I hardly ever sounded more naive and idiotic than this. Please forgive me. 


Thirteen  11 Feb 2002 
Pollux,

Actually, I agree with you. We've been assuming that this question is about readings to examine situations and choices--like trying to decide if you should ask someone out, or take a job offer or buy stock in a new business--not for meditating.

In the former case, I'd prefer not to read for myself, as the more the situation mattered to me, the more muddled my mind or emotions about it, the more likely I'd do a poor reading for myself.

However, if we take readings to mean mediation, self-exploration, religious expression, then, absolutely, you must read for yourself and there's nothing at all wrong with it. As you mention, Pollux, self-readings in that case can be like a conversation with a friend, almost a philosophical or spiritual discussion. 


jade  12 Feb 2002 
i usually do a reading for myself about every 6-10 months, not often unless something comes up that i need assistance with and i need some clarity. :)

i have a friend who was and probably still is addicted to the cards......she did readings all the time. i feel that when you do that your life starts collapsing in upon itself. you are no longer living your life but living your cards....yuck!

i used the cards alot during my initial growth spiritually......my girlfriend and i would get together once a week and do a reading for each other on what we needed to work on for the week......then we would work on it and get a new lesson the following week. it was wonderful because the 'program' was created for us, by our higher power - guides and therefore best for us.

we sure had a lot of growth in those months!

in light,
jade 


Diana  12 Feb 2002 
edited 


Pollux  12 Feb 2002 
Diana: I can't seem to understand where the contradiction is! :D

Actually, I disliked the shape I had given to that post - native speakers will never understand my frustration :( - and, despite the fact it might have been a good thought, my writing seems so simplistic and... idiotic! That's the word. :)
I can't say why. 


amyel  13 Feb 2002 
Quote:
Pollux (12 Feb, 2002 23:54):
Diana: I can't seem to understand where the contradiction is! :D

Actually, I disliked the shape I had given to that post - native speakers will never understand my frustration :( - and, despite the fact it might have been a good thought, my writing seems so simplistic and... idiotic! That's the word. :)
I can't say why.


Now Pollux, you are allowing sucky ole Saturn to make you doubt yourself! Your words were fine - maybe its placement in Libra doesn't make you as objective as you think!

As my momma used to say" Be gentle on yourself, dear. No one else will be." :) 


Lilliana  14 Feb 2002 
pollux- I agree. If you're reading for yourself to help you meditate and for spiritual purposes, then it's somewhat different to reading about practical issues.

I do think that it's possible to get dependent on practical readings. I knew someone who would do readings all the time about everything. Now he's mainly into runes.

When I first started with the tarot, I was tempted to do readings about lots of things, something would happen, and I'd think "Oh, I should ask my cards about that", but most of the time I didn't actually do a reading.

Lilli 


Pollux  15 Feb 2002 
My experiences instead were a bit different.
When I first approached Tarot cards, I had that sort of fear to work with them. I was concerned as I thought I might not respect the cards enough, and gain frustration from this "unperfect" relationship.
So I was constantly refrained from using them up! :)
Even now, people asks and asks: "when will you read for me?"
And I say: "why? what is your problem?"
Most of the times they answer they have no specific problem, they just want a reading; and I must try so hard to make them understand that such a reading would be completely useless!!!
I read rarely for others, most of times when they want to be comforted... and they don't feel like saying it clearly! :-)
I keep to the cards, of course, but obviously I try to shift from the "metaphysical view" of the cards, to the everyday problems, and try to give a sensible advice, sticking as much as I can to the cards; however, my first concern is to help them anyway, not to be dull and say only what the cards say.

Reading for myself is entirely another kettle of fish!

There use to be a spread somewhere in ny notebooks.
I'll try to find it for sharing.
I hope you'll like it: I called it the Mirror.
As anyone ever heard of that? 


Diana  15 Feb 2002 
edited 


Pollux  15 Feb 2002 
Diana: you know, I have to write posts on posts because I'm never clear enough when I answer! :D
I agree with you on a general basis, but my experiences and choices were such for many reasons...
First, I've never really been sure enough of my abilities, so much to use them at command - I like being prepared for readings... Eating nothing, drinking only milk, keeping pure and clean - you know, first times fancifulness!!! :D
Then, people asking have always had a sort of superficial attitude, and avoided understanding what it took me to have a reading... I felt teased at times, and mostly not respected. Therefore I often refused.

The situation has changed now: I've made up my mind, and decided to read "seriously" and for more people - not anyone though. I have a new deck, I'm re-learning everithing, from history of Tarots to Spreads and Cards association. And I really need new Guinea Pigs! :D 


Emily  16 Feb 2002 
I do mostly readings for myself, as a newbie (less than 12 months) I don't really have the confidence to read for anyone else although I have read for my husband a few times lol :) 


fairyhedgehog  16 Feb 2002 
I mainly read for myself. But the other day my son and I read for our cat :)

Her reading showed lots of food, lots of cuddles, lots of sleep, and that she thinks she's a star 8)

My most accurate reading so far.

All the best,

FH 


purplelady  23 Feb 2002 
Thirteen: I think a "Do a Reading for ME" section here on the forums is a GREAT idea!
Pollux: You say you have saturn exalted in Libra, but I thought that saturn was Not exalted in Libra.Oh well , I guess that's a question for the astrology section!
I had been doing readings for myself. (celtic cross and a few others)These days I only pull one card a day, which I really enjoy. But I do sometimes suspect there's an element of wish fulfilment in it. I do this using the fan method (cards fanned out in front of me)then I run my hands over them and pull one that feels "warm". For instance , if I think and concentrate on getting a "happy" card, I pull the sun. (The next day I Did have a good day!)
Pollux, I just found a book and looked this up, Saturn Is exalted in Libra! 


Pollux  24 Feb 2002 
:P Saturn is exalted in Libra :P
:p You'd better trust what I say (but when I say I'm not sure :D ) :p 


-=zind=-  25 Feb 2002 
I'll have to agree with those of you who say that it's a bit more difficult to do readings for yourself than it is to do readings for others. To tell the truth I don't do readings for myself at all anymore, as I tend to do exactly what you said : let the emotions get in the way. I always end up either getting depressed cause they down say what I want them to say, or I try and twist them into saying what I want them to say. But no it's not bad to do a reading for yourself, a lot of people do it, and do it accurate as well. But then again most of the people I've talked to that does tarot card readings don't like doing readings for themselves at all, so I guess this is highly individual. 


The Reading For Yourself thread was originally posted on 10 Feb 2002 in the Using Tarot Cards board, and is now archived in the Forum Library. Read the active threads in Using Tarot Cards, or read more archived threads.

 
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