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Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 15 May 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.



Alex  15 May 2002 
I'm a beginner trying to learn Tarot, so I'm doing some spreads for myself and learning the meaning of the cards etc.
I consistently get a Seven of Swords at position 8 (Celtic cross) and I'm having a hard time passing from the meaning of the card to the interpretation, given the position. Any ideas that can help me? I would appreciate your input.
Regards, Alex. 


Rhiannon  15 May 2002 
In your version of the Celtic Cross, does position 8 mean "outside influences/what others think of you or your situation" ? That would help to clarify the question a bit. We all read that spread a little differently. Also, what deck are you using?

Rhiannon :) 


Alex  15 May 2002 
Yes, that is why I'm finding it difficult to make a bridge between the "meaning" of the card and "what others think of the situation", much less "how others see you". I'm using the Mythic deck. Thanks for your reply. Alex.

Quote:
Originally posted by Rhiannon
In your version of the Celtic Cross, does position 8 mean "outside influences/what others think of you or your situation" ? That would help to clarify the question a bit. We all read that spread a little differently. Also, what deck are you using?

Rhiannon :)
 


Rhiannon  15 May 2002 
OK, taking this card out of context a bit, since I don't know the whole reading...

Seven of Swords in position 8 of the CC/what others think of you:

They see that you are vulnerable at this time. You are perhaps in a situation that is difficult, you feel trapped? They want you to be very careful with what you do and say at this time. Remember your miranda rights "anything you say can and will be used against you"

In reverse this card could mean that they see you as being overly paranoid about the situation.

Does that help a bit?
Rhiannon :) 


Alex  15 May 2002 
Thanks, I think it helped a bit. Most "meanings" for this card I've read gravitate more around "what one should do" rather than describing a situation where one is at the moment. It also strikes me the fact that the conflict I am in is unknown to most people but the other person involved, so there's not much "others" can "think of it". I guess.

If it helps that I put the entire reading, here it goes:

1 (significator): 2 of cups
2 (crossing card): 8 of swords
3 (crowing card): King of pentacles
4 (base of the matter): Ace of cups
5 (past influences): Hierophant
6 (forthcoming influences): 3 of swords
7 (where 1 finds 1self): Knight of cups
8 (view of others): 7 of swords
9 (hopes and fears): 7 of cups
10 (outcome): 8 of swords

Very quick background: I'm about to graduate in the end of this year, and I must make a decision on whether to go back home or stay here for longer. Practical matters call up for my return, my heart is on the "staying" side of the conflict because of my boyfriend. As I simply cannot decide what to do, I'm getting depressed over it. I didn't even have a well-formulated question (don't know what to ask) but just wanted to "take a look at the situation". Of course the situation is what it is and I am confortable with the cards the way they came out, with the exception of the 7 of swords at position 8. As only my boyfriend knows I'm in such "conflict", I wonder what "other people think" from what they see. Yes I feel trapped_in an internal conflict_ but the need to "be careful with what I say" has been acknowledged by me a long ago, therefore I don't advertize my "problem" around. And as a consequence, how could others think I should watch out my mouth ... about something I have not opened my mouth about?

Thaks for your input. Putting the cards within the context of the reading is sometimes tricky, as I perceive it from my "newcomer" point of view.

Regards

Alex.

P.S. No use of reversed cards, as with the Mythic Tarot manual.


Quote:
Originally posted by Rhiannon
OK, taking this card out of context a bit, since I don't know the whole reading...

Seven of Swords in position 8 of the CC/what others think of you:

They see that you are vulnerable at this time. You are perhaps in a situation that is difficult, you feel trapped? They want you to be very careful with what you do and say at this time. Remember your miranda rights "anything you say can and will be used against you"

In reverse this card could mean that they see you as being overly paranoid about the situation.

Does that help a bit?
Rhiannon :)
 


Rhiannon  15 May 2002 
hey alex, be glad to take a peek at this but i think you have a typo. you have the 8 of swords as both your #2 and your final outcome card... can you fix that up? Thanks!

Rhiannon :) 


Alex  15 May 2002 
ooopppsss

2 (crossing card): 8 of wands

oh well 


MeeWah  15 May 2002 
Alex: I read position 8 as "Relationships &/or environment". That standpoint may be more helpful to you regarding 7-Swords as I see it tends to describe the condition (of the matter).
Since you state that you consistently get this card at this position, does it occur with whatever the query, or on the same subject?
In this throw, it may relate to The Hierophant, where in the past your attitude, actions & etc may have been dictated by conforming or not conforming to societal mores or expectations.
Knight-Cups seems to indicate following one's heart.
7-Swords can refer to success by cunning or stealth; careful planning; being careful with communications, either verbal or written (includes "gossip") or deal with an inner conflict or realization.
The cards oft describe "what is" or what you are looking at rather than offering a solution or making a choice for you.
Perhaps you would rather try to work around it somehow & not have to make a decision either way or at least have other options (7-Cups)?
7-Cups does not usually offer concrete measures other than exploring the imagination or considering possibilities. It may be a hint to be realistic in order to avoid being at an impasse (8-Swords). 


Alex  16 May 2002 
Yeah, thanks. Putting it that way makes more sense.

Re your ?, I got the card 3 times at this position when the "querry" the same. The spreads around that subject don't change much, speaking in general terms.

Regards


 


The Seven of swords thread was originally posted on 15 May 2002 in the Using Tarot Cards board, and is now archived in the Forum Library. Read the active threads in Using Tarot Cards, or read more archived threads.

 
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