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Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 14 Oct 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.



RedRose  14 Oct 2002 
I just started learning Tarot this summer. I learned from my Wiccan friend. But the one thing that she showed me how to do, other than throw away the instructions that came with my Celtic Dragon Tarot cards, was how to find my personal tarot card out of my deck...i just thought to share this with you guys, and if you want you can post your findings.

You have to line out all your tarot cards out, they are all spread around on a table or some large flat area. Then take your LEFT hand and go over the cards, which ever ones you get a heat sensation, pull them out of the lines of the cards and put them in a different pile. then once you find all the ones that feel hot to you! (make sure you don't have soo many that it will take forever to do, one thing i would do if i were you is to pick your lucky number, if it is over 10 and below 20. ) then after you found your "hot" cards, pick up your "cold" cards. Then spread out all the "hot" cards and do it all over again. and always discard atleast half of the cards per turn.

I just did this with my cards. It turns out that my card, is the death card. I was looking at it for a while, it is such a pretty card... but i think my favorite card would be the MOON card...but that's just me. so feel free to try this out and post me about your findings if you wish to. 


Thirteen  14 Oct 2002 
I presume you need to do this with the cards face down? Otherwise, I think you might fool yourself into picking the ones you want ;) 


Frequency  14 Oct 2002 
That doesn't sound like it would work at all... The way I have used my Osho Zen deck with great success is by remembering that they are just cards. If a card comes up in a certain position that makes me realise something about myself or about a situation I need advice on, all the better. To me, that's what they are there for. I have also considered that I am shuffling the deck, and I may have subconciously remembered where the cards are. When I shuffle and "feel" that I should stop and draw the cards, they make sense 99% of the time. Other times, when I don't think they make sense, I figure out a different interpretation of what the card could mean for me acording to the image.

A perfect example of this is "the mind". It's seen around here as being 100% negative, I am almost sure, but sometimes it comes up in a positive way. Perhaps my instinctual worrying about something is a benefit to me.

Another good example is "turning in". That can also be a very negative card. Perhaps I am not listening to the good advice people give me.

etc...

Try to remember that the more different interpretations you have with the different cards, the more likely they are to aid you. After all, they are just cards.


You might not agree with me, but that's my opinion on tarot. 


Phoenix  14 Oct 2002 
RedRose

I would reccomend against throwing away the book that comes with the Celtic Dragon Tarot, unless you are already familiar with DJ Conway, and with dragons. She explains certain things in the book, like the switching of fire/sword, air/wands, and the renaming of certain Major Arcana cards, as well as the different species of dragons.

If you wish to continue learning about dragons, read DJ Conway's book "Dancing with Dragons"

Hope this helps! 


lawguy51  14 Oct 2002 
Just for fun, I decided to try RedRose's suggestion. (It's a slow day in Canada - Canadian Thanksgiving!). Once I had the cards narrowed to 20 I realized that perhaps I should be doing this with the cards face down so I turned them over from that point on. Anyway, I ended up with the Knight of Cups, a card that I identify with more than any other Court card and one that very often represents me in a reading I am doing for myself, so hey, maybe there's something to this. 


Sinta  15 Oct 2002 
Hrm, i dont know if this would work for me. But I found my personal card, which was calculated for me through my birthday. It's my primary archetype and with it was calculated my shadow card. They fit me perfectly ^_^ No other card would've. It is also my favourite card.

I tried this calculation with others and so far it hasn't failed! 


Zhritza  15 Oct 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Frequency
A perfect example of this is "the mind". It's seen around here as being 100% negative, I am almost sure, but sometimes it comes up in a positive way. Perhaps my instinctual worrying about something is a benefit to me.


This is a really important point; I personally see what is "thought" as being at least as important as what is "felt." But the tricky thing (for me anyway) is in not letting the intellect swamp the gut. It's a lot like the Rush opus, "Hemispheres"... okay, forget I said that. }) In my case, when I read for myself, I am merely trying to tap into my own subconscious knowledge, part of which includes what is typically called instinct; and on the rare occasion that I read for others, I do not believe that there is a higher power involved; it's more of a "what the heck, let's see what happens" thing. So although I am not attempting divination (and that doesn't mean I believe it isn't possible), this issue is central to my readings.

This is a murky area. What seems like "instinctual worry" could just be overintellectualizing, and conversely, when you think you are being too cautious or standoffish in an interpretation, it could be your instincts saying something important. I don't think I will ever be able to completely dstinguish intellect from feeling, or emotion from subconscious instinct. It's so hard to delineate these things. And therefore, if I try too hard to separate them from each other, my mindset, again, has become saturated with overintellectualization. The theoretically achievable balance -- does anyone feel that they have it, or are approaching it? Any tips? Frequency has actually hit upon the crux of my learning process with tarot... Maybe this warrants a different thread; I am the queen of digression. I am going to try the personal-card selection method. 


cjtarot  15 Oct 2002 
Hi,

I remember a thread on how to find your life and soul card...Mine is the Chariot..

It's a formula using numbers, IF ANYONE REMEBERS IT, PLEASE POST IT..

It's a great way to find a path.

Cj 


Laurel  15 Oct 2002 
Redrose, thank you very much for sharing!

Alas, I don't have a "personal" tarot card any more. I've started cherishing and personalizing my relationship with so many of them that I wouldn't get a strong thermal sensation over a specific card if I fanned them out- my hand would just get hot and I'd have to choose randomly. However, I remember when I did this with the Voyager deck years ago... and it was "The Guardian", the Woman of Crystals 8 times out of ten.

Laurel 


rostie  15 Oct 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by cjtarot
Hi,

I remember a thread on how to find your life and soul card...Mine is the Chariot..

It's a formula using numbers, IF ANYONE REMEBERS IT, PLEASE POST IT..

It's a great way to find a path.

Cj


i only remember this:

for example my birth date is: may the 23th of 1979 (23/05/1979)
so: 2+3 + 0+5 + 1+9+7+9 = 36,
there are only 22 major arcana
so:3+6=9, the hermit for me!

love,

sara. 


Sinta  15 Oct 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by cjtarot
Hi,

I remember a thread on how to find your life and soul card...Mine is the Chariot..

It's a formula using numbers, IF ANYONE REMEBERS IT, PLEASE POST IT..

It's a great way to find a path.

Cj


I think this is what you meant. This is how i calculate my personality/life and soul card. My personality card is the lovers and soul card is the devil.

Take your birthday and add up the numbers. For example, my birthday is January 1, 1984.

1 + 1 + 1 + 9 + 8 + 4 = 24

Numbers 1 - 22 have already specific cards for them (22 is also 0 for the fool). Because this number is in the range of 23 and above, it has to be added again.

2 + 4 = 6.

Then I find the card that matches that. The 6th Card is the Lovers. That's now my personality card. To find the shadows card I have to find what number (between 10 - 22) holds the two digits, which added up will equal 6. (Though there are varieties on how to do this -_- I mean when one tries to find what equals 4 or less they can have two possibilities)

Answer: 15
1 + 5 = 6

So my soul card is Card 15, which is the Devil. This is how I was taught ;) Hope that helps. 


ChrisTheObscure  15 Oct 2002 
I tried rostie's suggestion and got The Chariot...which is interesting, I'd have never thought that would be my personal card.

But, it gives me something to think about...

C. 


rota  15 Oct 2002 
13th of August, 1954
1+3+8+1+9+5+4 = 31

4 is the Emperor (personality card)

2 twos (22? would seem to be... 0: the Fool? (shadow card?) or would it be 1+3 (13) the Death card?


doi!

I guess I can see how the dour and rigid Emperor would typify me. I just don't want to admit it...
I guess I can also see how the Fool's converse would also typify me: trying not to see the obvious..... ha! I can certainly see that.
Not sure how Death's converse typifies my 'shadow side'... What am I doing - hanging on to stuff I ought to let go?


I'll try this with some other people and see what the outcomes are. 


truthsayer  15 Oct 2002 
the formula for calculating the soul and personality numbers is in Tarot for YOurself by mary k. greer. she also goes into what combos mean.

there is an old thread on this that meewah led maybe 6 monthes ago. the 2 other books in the greer series are Tarot Constellations and Tarot Mirrors. but this is a different system than the one red rose is talking about. thanks for sharing it. i can't wait to try it. :) 


rostie  17 Oct 2002 
something different about the personality-card:

my friend have 8 for lifecard, does that mean strength or justice??? because sometimes that two cards are mixed, what's the right one for 8, his shadowcard is the star...

mine is the hermit, my shadowcard the moon...now i understand a lot in my life in relation to those two cards, it's not easy though...;)


thanks in advance...

with love,

sara. 


Zhritza  18 Oct 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by rostie
my friend have 8 for lifecard, does that mean strength or justice??? because sometimes that two cards are mixed, what's the right one for 8, his shadowcard is the star...


Right, I have the same situation as your friend, 8 and 1+7. That was the big debate in the original thread on this, I believe... So in the end it comes down to whether you're a Rider-Waite-Smith person (8=Strength, 11=Justice) or a Thoth/Golden Dawn person (8=Justice, 11=Strength). Uh... that is, I think Golden Dawn is the same as Thoth; Crowley based the numbering on that, right? Anyway, yeah, whichever way you gravitate in that sense. I settled on Strength because that seems to be the slightly more common way that decks are, and because Justice seemed too obvious for me. I'm obsessed with fairness and balance, but ultimately, it's the elusive qualities represented by Strength that I slowly spiral towards. I am really happy about the Star being my soul card though :D 


Khatruman  21 Oct 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Frequency
The way I have used my Osho Zen deck with great success is by remembering that they are just cards . If a card comes up in a certain position that makes me realise something about myself or about a situation I need advice on, all the better. To me, that's what they are there for. When... I don't think they make sense, I figure out a different interpretation of what the card could mean for me acording to the image.

Try to remember that the more different interpretations you have with the different cards, the more likely they are to aid you. After all, they are just cards.


You might not agree with me, but that's my opinion on tarot.


Hey, Frequency, I am in your school. It is weird that you mention the Osho Zen card "The Mind" in your sentence about the mind being taken negatively. I read your statement on its literal level as many people on here taking their MINDS negatively, which I find to be true on many tarot readers. They put the power on the cards: the cards can be hot, the cards have the energy and karma. They forget that it ultimately comes from how we think about the results. My re-introduction into tarot came by way of the Creative Whack Pack, which gives some wonderful incite into oracular devices.

I see the power being in the *I*. We draw the cards, use the cards, to tap into something deep within us. I think that the whole aversion, as well as attraction, of the general public is that the cards are doing something magical. Naysayers feel you are worshipping the devil, or going against God, by putting the power in the cards. On the reverse, those generally fascinated by them see the cards as somethign to tell the future with, that they don't have to work towards their own futures, because there is some ultimate destiny that the cards are showing them. Many who make money off the cards (the Miss Cleo set) perpetuate this, and people become skeptical when readers ask questions to draw out information and relevance of the cards, like the cards are supposed to know.

I always stress before I give a reading to anyone that the cards are merely a medium between him and his subconscious, as well as the collective unconscious, the archetypal mind. I want to know how the readers *sees* the cards, I will give him general impressions and meanings, but it ultimately boils down to the significance he sees.

I am not sure I am making myself clear, but I do agree with Frequency in that they are *just cards* with symbols and images meant to evoke the depths of the mind, and The Mind. 


Keslynn  21 Oct 2002 
Yes, but don't you think that your subconscious could clue you in on which cards you might need to focus on? I don't think it's too farfetched to say that your mind could clue you in on what you need to know by creating a heat sensation in your hand over a certain card. It's just as believable as laying cards in a spread and thinking that they have some relevancy to your life. You say that the mind is the most powerful part of the equation and then you discount it's powers. The mind is a wild and crazy place and we're nowhere close to fully understanding it.

:) Kes (being devil's advocate) 


LadyShallot  21 Oct 2002 
The method I use is outlined in Tarot for Yourself. If when you add your birth date your number is 21 or less, you have two numbers. The first is your personality or life card and the second is soul card. If the total equals 19, you have 3 cards (19,10,1) which all work together as combined life/sou cards. If your total equals 22 (as does mine), the Emperor becomes your life/personality card and the Fool the soul card.

Angeles Arrien in The Handbook of Tarot has extensive information not only on calculating these cards but also what they might mean.

Using the same methodology you can calculate a year card (choose if you want the year to begin with the new year or your birthday). I charted all my year cards and significant life events and found insight into my personal life cycles and journey. 


Khatruman  22 Oct 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Keslynn
Yes, but don't you think that your subconscious could clue you in on which cards you might need to focus on? I don't think it's too farfetched to say that your mind could clue you in on what you need to know by creating a heat sensation in your hand over a certain card. ... You say that the mind is the most powerful part of the equation and then you discount it's powers. The mind is a wild and crazy place and we're nowhere close to fully understanding it.

:) Kes (being devil's advocate)


Hey Kes, I totally agree with you, and if you read my post, you will see that I am discounting the belief that the *cards* are hot, I totally agree with you that the cards can *feel* hot to one. I in no way discount the minds powers. I have heard of people with multiple personalities who can have diabetes in one personality and not have it in another, and the body will physically change from personality to personality. The mind is indeed nowhere near being understood. Those who maintain that we use only ten percent of it are not thinking themselves. If we are using only that small part of our brains, how come the human brain is evolving into a larger and larger organ? Don't body parts we don't use, like the little toe and the appendix, tend to shrink evolutionarily (is that a word?)

Once again, please understand my thoughts before you accuse me of contradicting myself, then again, to paraphrase Whitman *Do I contradict myself? Very well, I contradict myself! I am large! I contain multitudes!* Read again, oh advocate of the devil..*s* 


rostie  22 Oct 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by LadyShallot
Using the same methodology you can calculate a year card (choose if you want the year to begin with the new year or your birthday). I charted all my year cards and significant life events and found insight into my personal life cycles and journey.


can you give an example, i don't quite understand :| 


Jackal  22 Oct 2002 
I tried using Angeles Arrien's method of finding a significator (I prefer that term, sosumi) and I came up with 6, the Lovers. (according to her system, that becomes both my 'life' and 'soul' card). Now, I've read several dissertations on the Lovers, and just couldn't figure out how it applied to me.

So I tried using astrological associations. I'm a Virgo, which, in the books I've read, would make my significator 9, the Hermit. Again, from what I've read, there is nothing about the Hermit that connects with me whatsoever.

One book (one) seemed to imply that the Knight of Cups best described me. Another seemed to imply that, best guess, I was the Magician.

Faugh!

I'm going to try the heat-seeker method. 


LadyShallot  22 Oct 2002 
To calculate your year card - add the month and day of your birth plus the current year. For me that would be 7+29+2002=2038. Add the digits 2+0+3+8=13. Thus, my year card is Death. Since my birthday is mid-year, I generally consider my year to begin with my birthday. Some people like to use New Year's Day as the beginning of the year. Whatever works for you.

Here's what I think: If you really value numerology than using numbers to find a correspondence my have value for you. The same with astrology. It really depends on what value you place on the system you are using to correspond with the cards. Tarot can correspond to many systems.

What I use these life or year cards for is more of a thought jog when they appear in my personal readings. Some cards haunt my readings (Knight of Wands, 5 of Wands - both associated with my sun sign Leo).

If I want to really have an in depth experience with a card I will choose one that just seems to be speaking to me. I will write in my journal as if I am having a dialog with the card or visualize entering the card. Sometimes I leave it near my bed and look at first thing in a.m. Thus, a key card for me changes depending on where I am at in my life.

Finally, to pick cards at random I basically dowse the cards (my cousin is a dowser). I shuffle and cut. When I get a "stick" I know that its right. If I don't, I reshuffle. I wonder if my "stick" is similar to the heat method? 


Zhritza  23 Oct 2002 
I've been wondering about this but was shy about asking what the heck a year card was. Thanks for letting everyone in on it, LadyShallot :) -- my year card is the Hermit, and indeed, my main internal occupation this year has been learning to be alone (single, and living alone) and to not give a crap what people think of me unless they're really important to me. Now, how about explaining this dowsing/"sticking" method? :cool: 


LadyShallot  23 Oct 2002 
My cousin uses dowsing and radionics. He was demonstrating some of the principles. One of his techniques involved rubbing a plastic coated paper for making a decision. Most of the time it felt smooth but suddenly it would get sticky. I don't really gravitate to dowsing myself but I found myself adapting the idea to my shuffling ritual.

Shuffling ritual. I shuffle until I intuitively think the feel is right (but not less than 14 times which is the number of shuffles needed to randomize cards - I read that somewhere). I then make two cuts. The second cut, it will feel like the cards are "sticking" together. I then do my layout. If I do not get that sense of them sticking together, I shuffle and try again.

When I started doing this the sense that my readings were "right on" or "hitting the mark" greatly increased. When I told my cousing about it, he said I was dowsing the cards. Since it works and has increased my ability to read cards, I use it.

What do you think? 


rostie  24 Oct 2002 
what's the right way???

23+05+2002 = 5, the hierophant
or
2+3+0+5+2+0+0+2 = 14, temperance

i'm confused, or are they both right...


sara. 


LadyShallot  24 Oct 2002 
I use the first method. But that does not mean the second method is not valid. I am just not familiar with it. 


rota  24 Oct 2002 
"Shuffling ritual. I shuffle until I intuitively think the feel is right (but not less than 14 times which is the number of shuffles needed to randomize cards - I read that somewhere). I then make two cuts. The second cut, it will feel like the cards are "sticking" together. I then do my layout. If I do not get that sense of them sticking together, I shuffle and try again."
)))))))))))))))))))))))
)))))))))))))))))))))))

I have to try this!

I'd like to hear from other people about shuffling techniques. No doubt the subject has been done to death in previous threads, but after poking around with the search function I haven't found much more info.

1) how much shuffling DOES is take to 'randomize' the cards? 14 times for sure? I mean in a scientific sense. Probably Vegas casinos have this figured out.

2) I've very much noticed the 'sticking' and 'sliding' effects. It may have something to do with the amount of air present between the two slick surfaces. when I feel them 'sticking' (usually while I'm cutting the deck), I just wait - and the deck will 'decide' where to part. Anybody else have insights to offer?

I understand that presumably it's the querent who 'knows' how much shuffling is exactly the right amount, and 'knows' where the deck needs to be cut. otherwise there would be some exactly prescribed shuffling and cutting procedure in all the books, as precise as making the perfect souffle. 


truthsayer  24 Oct 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by rostie
what's the right way???

23+05+2002 = 5, the hierophant
or
2+3+0+5+2+0+0+2 = 14, temperance

i'm confused, or are they both right...


sara.


both are correct. 5 and 14 which is 1+4=5. 5 is just the 14 broken down further. i can't remember which is which but one is your personality number and the other is the soul nuber. i'll try to find out. it's in tarot for yourself, mary k. greer. 


StargazerLily  30 Oct 2002 
I used the numeric way of finding my card and both my soul and personality is the High Priest. What I found interesting was that Thirteen associates the priest with Taurus, which is my astrological sign :) 


crystalmoon  06 Nov 2002 
Hello All,
I have a yahoo newsletter mailed to me from TarotTips and there are several articles about Numerology and Tarot. Here is a link (hopefully it will work,hehe). There is great info to be found here so enjoy:) Articles 139-142 are about the "Birth Cards".

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tarottips/messages/142?viscount=-30 


Emily  07 Nov 2002 
I'd never tried working my cards out but felt like I was missing something so I used Mary K Greer's system. The results really opened my eyes lol

Personality card - The Fool
Soul Card - The Emperor
Teacher card - Death
sun sign card - Strength
Year Card - The Hierophant

I spend more time with these cards now when meditating, and do think its worth taking the time to work your personal cards out - it also gets addictive, I also worked out the Personality cards for some of my friends :) 


Adorian  28 Nov 2002 
Interesting concept, I'm going to work through it when I'm less tired. :-)
My birth date is 8th September 1969 so my personality card is The Devil and Soul card is The Lovers, I believe, with my 2002 card as Hanged Man and 2003 The Emperor. I suppose as my birthday's so late in the year I either start the next year early or start on Jan 1st. Odd though it may seem I prefer to start the next year early ( as a kid I'd work out when I was say 13 by it being the 80s plus the 3, then deducting a year for turning 13 in Sept 82 - if that makes sense - so I've kind of always thought of my new year starting early - you know, like the 2002/3 academic year I have the 2002/3 Adorian year but think of it as 2003 which it mostly is.) Am I rambling? It makes sense on the inside of my head but I'm tired. Sorry if it's irritating. :-/

Have people tried this method with decks other than RW? I have that deck but my main divinatory deck is the Arthurian (Hallowquest) and I suspect I'd get more value from using that one to calculate. Is trying it with both second guessing?

Thanks to this forum I just ordered 2 tarot related books online. I like to think of them as early Yule gifts to myself...anyone else using that excuse or should I just admit I can't help myself?! (Mostly I use the library but tarot books I like to write in and that just seems antisocial somehow!)
So, anyway, I'm looking forward to getting to work through my 2 new books. Thanks to those who inadvertently pointed me in the right direction! 


Small-tree  29 Nov 2002 
Hi all.....

I'm kinda new to thiks and all this calculating is making me kinda confused....
My DOB is 20th Feb 1980.
so......2+0+0+2+1+9+8+0= 22

Ummm so what comes next?
my friend said there are 22 cards in the major and that 22 could be taken to represent the fool......but isn't he 0???

And....what card exactly am i calculating? personality? soul? 


violinlily  29 Nov 2002 
hello everybody!!

I can understand the first card part, but in my mornning stupor, forgotten the other card. My b-day is September 1, 1988. so: 9+1+1+9+8+8= 36..... so 9.... The hermit, right? So what's the other card? would it be the magician because 5-4=1?? Help please!!

small tree: what comes next is adding the 2+2 together, getting 4....the emperor.

I think in numerology, there's three numbers, a character, heart and social number, but they have to do w/ ur name, not ur b-day.
But that's a whole new thread... 


Small-tree  29 Nov 2002 
my name?? ok....it's getting more confusing my the minute. haha. Think i'll prob have to read up more 


rostie  29 Nov 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Emily
I'd never tried working my cards out but felt like I was missing something so I used Mary K Greer's system. The results really opened my eyes lol

Personality card - The Fool
Soul Card - The Emperor
Teacher card - Death
sun sign card - Strength
Year Card - The Hierophant

I spend more time with these cards now when meditating, and do think its worth taking the time to work your personal cards out - it also gets addictive, I also worked out the Personality cards for some of my friends :)


what is teacher card & sun sign card???

is the sun sign card just the card from your astrologytype i mean i'm gemini so sun sign card is the lovers???

but what is the teacher card then???

thank you very much in advance,

with love,
sara. 


violinlily  29 Nov 2002 
sry small tree!!!
I'm getting confuzzed too!! we can be in the same boat together!! anyway, just mind the first part of what I said, and save the second part for the future. sry again!! 


paradoxx  01 Dec 2002 
you can also look for cards that resemble you physically. once identified their presence is unmistakable. 


juice  02 Dec 2002 
If you read ten sites on nerology you'll get twelve ways of figuring each and every catagory. My aunt changed her name to Chrystal because of the magickal power that would give her nerological charts. Go make up your own system and you'll be just as accurate as all the others. 


PltoStorm  03 Dec 2002 
I tried it and got the six of swords for my personal card. The freaky part is, I am moving on from an extremely hard situation, which is what the LWB told me (Dragon deck) it meant, and I tried a few readings on other people a few days ago and of thos readings, no one has gotten the Six of Swords. That's really cool! heh! :) 


MeeWah  04 Dec 2002 
RedRose: Sorry, just noticed this thread (hope ye are still around), but wanted to say I occasionally use your method to choose cards for a throw. It seems to work quite well for readings.

Also, for those who may be interested, there was a thread originated by KyrieSummer a while ago about the personal card(s):

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?threadid=519&highlight=Personal+card

The following is a later thread:

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?threadid=471&highlight=Shadow+Card 


Small-tree  04 Dec 2002 
Hmmm ok.....so if that the case, then if my bday falls on 20th Feb 1980, i would get 22.

so i should not reduce this further cos it's some kind of master number? (umm wats a master number...)

so my personality card would be the fool and 2+2=4 so my soul card is the emperor card? Is this right? 


MeeWah  04 Dec 2002 
Small-tree: 22 is a master number & is not reduced. Therefore, both the Personality & Soul Cards are 22, representing The Fool. The Shadow Card is 4-The Emperor.

You can refer to the second thread link for information about the concept of the Shadow Card, which Mary K. Greer refers to as the Hidden Factor or Teacher Card.

Greer's first book, "Tarot for Your Self" expands on the concept of Lifetime Cards first introduced by Angeles Arrien. Greer's second book, "Tarot Constellations", discusses the Lifetime Cards in greater detail. There is a third book, "Tarot Mirrors", which deals with various ways of working with Tarot. 


The Finding YOUR personal tarot card out of your deck... thread was originally posted on 14 Oct 2002 in the Using Tarot Cards board, and is now archived in the Forum Library. Read the active threads in Using Tarot Cards, or read more archived threads.

 
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