The Dr is in ? Tarot and health.

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 04 Jan 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

samantha	04 Jan 2003
What I really want to know is how effective can the Tarot be when it comes to diagnosing and/or warning about illness ? In the past I have been dubious/careful about using the cards as a substitute physician........but maybe there are spreads/decks/ specific interpretations ? If so I would be interested to hear about them. Yesterday my grandmother was taken to hospital with a suspected heart attack , luckily everything turned out ok , but as I anxiously waited to hear I did ask the cards advice . Using the simple 3 card spread I got :The tower, 9 of Cups , the World. The first two cards seemed pretty self explanatory , and since I always see the world as about successful integration and personal peace/harmony then I basically took this to be a good sign that she would fully recover. Having said that , I did keep this reading to myself ! I thought that it would have been truely awful if I had been proved wrong........

Mojo	04 Jan 2003
samantha Try reading the 9 of Cups as "things aren't always as they appear" and your reading may make more sense... As for using Tarot for medical questions, the ethics police on these forums will ultimately respond with warning after warning on doing so. However, from experience, a significant number of my regular clients come to me with medical questions all the time. I never offer diagnoses, as I don't believe the cards are capable of doing so, but I do offer insights and options. Most of my clients don't need reminding that a doctor is the best source for medical advice, but I will give this mini-lecture to new clients or ones I don't know very well.

Alex	04 Jan 2003
of some life pleasure she has, like smoking or drinking. She'll be told she has to go on a healthy life-style mode now. Oh well. Better than the alternative. Alex.

sagitarian	05 Jan 2003
Quote: Originally posted by samantha What I really want to know is how effective can the Tarot be when it comes to diagnosing and/or warning about illness ? In my experience, not very. It can give knowledge of it, but other then that, what use is "doctors" on a spiritual level? I think of my spirit as a almost gaseous form of being, something that doesn't need any substances to sustain it's existence, although it can choose to look a certain way, like take the form of female, and choose what that form looks like. If there is no need on a spiritual level for doctors for the sake of physical health in the spiritual realms, then what good is it for the tarot to offer physical methods to overcome an illness that effects only the body? It can give a general advice card, which we all should abide by, for example, take vitamins and eat healthy, as well as quite any bad habits such as smoking and/or drinking...but that's about it.

Diana	05 Jan 2003
Tarot is effective in all realms of life. Health, love, decision-making, relationships, family. You name it, Tarot can do it. Tarot will not lie to you concerning health. Which is why it would be wise to be careful when you consult it on health issues. Because it won't put velvet or satin on it's edges to soften any bad news. It will tell you the truth and if you're not yet ready mentally to accept what it will tell you, this could hasten and worsen the medical condition. (Fear and stress are not good companions when one is unwell.) So if you're prepared mentally for any eventuality, then by all means, go ahead and ask the Tarot. If you're not, then just use your common sense and your instinct. It can be useful to consult to know which therapy would work best: acupuncture, aromatherapy, homeopathy, allopathy, etc. etc. etc.

allibee	05 Jan 2003
Ethics police, Mojo... I LOVE that expression! I am at the moment compiling my own code of ethics for my pro site and of course this question is a very delicate one. In England the law stands that if you are not a qualified Medical Practicioner, then you cannot offer diagnoses or prescriptions. It's against the law, and is also one of those REALLY DODGY areas that may also invoke the Witchcraft Law too ... along with the likes of you must hold NOTHING in your hands when offering readings. Not even a hanky. Although I trust the tarot implicitly, I see no point in breaking the law either physically or ethically. Big Sign: I AM A TAROT READER, NOT A DOCTOR. the doctor is cheaper - at least in the UK, it's free - and I'd prefer it if you sued them for misdiagnoses thank you,.. have a nice day! allibee

Trogon	06 Jan 2003
Quote: Originally posted by allibee In England the law stands that if you are not a qualified Medical Practicioner, then you cannot offer diagnoses or prescriptions. It's against the law, and is also one of those REALLY DODGY areas that may also invoke the Witchcraft Law too ... along with the likes of you must hold NOTHING in your hands when offering readings. Not even a hanky. allibee... please tell me you're kidding here, right? England has witchcraft laws? You can't hold anything in your hand during a reading? For real? On-topic... I haven't had it come up yet (someone asking me a direct question related to their health). I think that if someone were to come to me saying something like "I've got this pain, can you do a reading about it", I'd be most likely to suggest they consult a doctor first. Then, if they wanted a reading about what the doctor had to say, or if they felt they weren't getting the full story, etc... I'd probably do a reading then. So far I've only had 1 reading where a health issue came up... but basically it was a life-style change that was recommended to a person who was over-weight. She has taken it to heart so far and started controlling her diet and excercising more.

allibee	06 Jan 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Trogon allibee... please tell me you're kidding here, right? England has witchcraft laws? You can't hold anything in your hand during a reading? For real? Whilst this mainly applies to spiritual mediums, please read this very carefully, as people can bend things anyway they want: Quote: Fraudulent Mediums Act Every person wishing to work as a medium in England should be aware of the Fraudulent Mediums Act 1951 which repealed the Witchcraft Act of 1735 and s.4 of the Vagrancy Act 1824. Spiritualists petitioned for this Act to be put on the Statute Books after the imprisonment of Helen Duncan. Helen was jailed in 1944 and the Act was made law in 1951. The Act states that express provision is made “for the punishment of persons who fraudulently purport to act as spiritualistic mediums or to exercise powers of telepathy, clairvoyance or other similar powers “ Mediums found guilty of fraud can face a term of imprisonment or be heavily fined. The main area where mediums can be accused of fraud is the holding of an object, such as a crystal ball, tarot cards , ribbons etc. Only the Director of Public Prosecutions can bring a case under this Act but a complaint by a recipient who has been upset or been made aware of fraud, can cause the DPP to institute such proceedings.

Macavity	06 Jan 2003
Doubtless arriving too late for many, but it may make interesting viewing. Tonight at 7-30 P.M. UK BBC1 TV (UK South) is a documentary investigating "New Age" (their words) cures for cancer. An investigative journalist finds that SOME companies have been telling patients to give up on their prescribed medications and use (expensive) "alternative" tharapies? It may clarify the legal postion of giving ANY health advice in the UK? Mac

samantha	06 Jan 2003
Well, even if it doesn't it will make for interesting viewing !! Just hope I catch it in time and/or wean the others in the house off University Challenge......... THanks Macavity ! (I always felt sorry for the theatre cat !)

Macavity	06 Jan 2003
Dunno - had to go shopping :) Here is/was the preview. I see they start from an unbiased position of terming it all "quack medicine" http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/south/series2/quack_medicine_alternative_cancer_cures.shtml Perhaps e.g. the British Medical Journal guidelines for complimentary medicine, mentioned in the above may give some ideas. Looks like the advice should simply be not to abandon conventional treatment? Mac

Trogon	07 Jan 2003
Quote: Originally posted by allibee Whilst this mainly applies to spiritual mediums, please read this very carefully, as people can bend things anyway they want: Quote: Every person wishing to work as a medium in England should be aware of the Fraudulent Mediums Act 1951 which repealed the Witchcraft Act of 1735 and s.4 of the Vagrancy Act 1824. (etc...) I am at a loss for words...

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