Past choices
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 21 Mar 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| Jenny-Li |
21 Mar 2003 |
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I was this close to putting this in the Chat forum, cuz I don't know where it belongs. It's a bit of this and a bit of that, and probably kind of confused, for which I apologize.
We live our lives by the choices we make. I don't think any of us really believe in a fixed destiny with no possibility to change or influence - at least that is not what I believe. I think we make our choices, and we live with them.
But still.
This whole choice business is just so darned DIFFICULT sometimes! So many years may pass when you think you did the right thing - and then suddenly you're struck by doubt, and you're stuck in a situation that just doesn't seem to fit in. The question is: Am I really in the right path? Way back then, should I have chosen differently?
It's meaningless to ask what should have been chosen in a past situation, whenever it was it was in a time that is now past and done with. But the matter of being on the right path is crucial for our life-journeys, and it seems to me past choices can very well have had a role to play in that.
So, what are your thoughts on this: Is it possible, fruitful and recommendable to look at your past choices to try to understand your present situation? I realise any past-present-future spread might do that, but I mean more specifically and more focused on the choice you once made. Would it be possible to gain some insight through a process like that, you think?
If so, how can you do it without getting stuck in what can't be changed...? (I'm thinking Tarot here of course, but I can't quite figure out how to do it!)
I'm very confused, and not quite sure I make sense here, but if you do understand what I mean, I'd be glad to see your input and suggestions - perhaps even spreads?
Light and love,
Jenny
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| HOLMES |
21 Mar 2003 |
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the past defines the present and the present the future.
can the past define the future ?
not if we change it in the present.
rare is the event in this world that can not be changed in the present,
even departed one come back to give message of hope and forgivness, in the shows from beyond, and crossing over
when we look back at the decision of the past,,
ohh i should of kissed her that night .
i shoulldnt of stayed in this town,, or i should of moved to that town.
ohh i wish i never met him or her that day ,, wrecked my life it did .
i should of gone into another career.
1. is it too late to kiss her.. for me it is, as she is married and in a differnt county and so i wonder sometimes would it have worked. and my only consolation is ,, it could of been worse.
i doubt i would be on my spiritual path, or know my nephews and nieces.
2. if i didnt' stay in town , i wouldnt' of learned this and that.
3. sure i wish i never met her that day,, but then i got my wonderful memories of the time we spent together . ( my brother used to wish he never met the ones he did,, but now we got boys and girls around us , and so we raise them , and something good came out of it )
4. it isn't too late to go into another career .
what we choose to experience, is what is right for us on the soul path and lessons we have choosen for us before we were born,
now is the time to change, not the past.
consider if we did all we could to right the past, what would be happening in the now ? making more things to correct so we never get caught up.
but if we take the top five regrets we had , and regret it. ask the source , the higher powe what would of happend if we can explore it physically in the present. and let the dream speak.
a few weeks ago i was lamenting my life, why am i here , why did i do this, what did i ask for.
and i got the message you got everything you asked for,
you asked for money so you can pursue your path, you got it, by taking the only way you know.
you asked for her to come back she did, and you learned from it on your soul level.
you asked for this information and we gave it to you .
what ever you asked for you have recieved. look at all the tarot cards you gotten for example.
(sometiems the guides have to speak sternly eheh)
so i said why am i not rich then,
and they said you don't really want that. do you .
and i put my head down to consider and give in and say no..
and i freely admit i wouldn't know what to do with 2 million dollars, hell even with 50 thousand.
so the point i am trying to make is one must take a look at the world they created for themselves and ask themselves did i ask for this and that, and be honestly and ask what you have learned from it.
then you can move forward saying i will try to be ask for something better or differnt.
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| Alex |
21 Mar 2003 |
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but ONLY if you can
1) be true to yourself regarding the reasons behind the misleading choice
2) take responsibility for it
3) understand you would had done better if you knew better
4) avoid the same mistake in the future.
Alex.
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| Mimers |
22 Mar 2003 |
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HOLMES, I know what you could do with that 2 million! You could give it to me! :D
I don't think I can say it better than Holmes and Alex have. I would like to say that I would emphasize what Alex said as being especially important. We have to accept responsability and learn from our past. Otherwise we do not grow.
I got married when I was 19 yrs old and my married years were the worst of my life. I can't tell you how many times I would ponder how my life would have been so much better if I had not married my ex husband. As the years went by and forgiveness and healing came for both of us, I start to realize that the person I have become is because of that choice I made. I like the person I have become. I learned a lot from being married to him. I also have two beautiful children from my marriage to him. I also look back now and know that it was meant to be. I think he and I got together before we came to earth and decided this was going to happen and what we would teach each other. He has grown tremendously also.
Again it didn't happen until I was able to do what Alex mentions above.
Hope this helps
Mimi
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| WolfSpirit |
22 Mar 2003 |
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Jenny-Li, interesting subject !
I think we can learn from choices we made in the past, but I think it is difficult to look at our own past with a clear mind and not starting to regret all those things that did not work out the way we had planned. You will also have to think back what your circumstances were exactly that made you make that choice - have your circumstances changed since then ? Have you changed ?
I think Tarot can help in this if you know what it is you want to learn from your past.
Maybe there are some things that were not really choices...you just did the obvious thing, you went with the flow without making a real decision.
I don't have a spread on this ready but I'll give it some thought.
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| Kaz |
22 Mar 2003 |
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interesting question ........
i think whatever we did in the past, or choose, was exactly right at that moment. i believe we are where we should be at any time, what and where we are today comes from that past.
i dont think regret is in place, you might have done it differently when you look back at it from the now, guess you learned something along the way to change your pov about it.
so, when you ask tarot about past, i would ask things like the same as i ask for knowing about the present. its not really different in my opinion, and yes, i can tell you from personal experience that it can be eye-opening and confronting........
hoping i make some sense here..........
~kaz
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| Trogon |
23 Mar 2003 |
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| This has certainly been an interesting discussion with many interesting posts. My main feeling on this whole matter of looking to the past can be summed up by the following quote; "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana The quote primarily refers to history in general, but I also feel that it applies on a personal level as well.
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