the Magician.
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 11 May 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| phirefly |
11 May 2003 |
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the magician has been popping up a lot for me lately, particularly in reference to a particular subject. and the more i try to figure out why and how i ought to read it, the more i realize how little i understand this card.
so, i was wondering what your thoughts on the magician are. how do you read it in general? how might you relate it to a particular person?
thanks!
--nicoLe, the perpetually disappearing.
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| phirefly |
11 May 2003 |
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thanks :D
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| jmd |
11 May 2003 |
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allibee has done the hard work for us, and linked it to other threads which discuss this card... but this shouldn't prevent us from discussing it afresh, especially in the particular context mentioned - somewhat sparingly!
In relation to a person, often I may see this card as indicating that the person concerned needs to focus on the basics: divide up the situation/problem into its constituent elements, and begin to understand their separate parts - rather than the whole.
Without this, there may be too much confusion - the card may therefore simply be indicating a way towards clarity for the person concerned.
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| divinerguy |
11 May 2003 |
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I think the repeated presence of the Magician may also represent a warning.
The Magician is a powerful figure who uses his skill to cause a desired magical result. He is also a person who can disguise a lack of depth and character by the strength of his presence.
He could represent a scammer, a phony, a guy who looks charming and will say anything to get what he wants.
I cannot disagree with jmd's conclusions either, which are well thought out. However, I think an alternate conclusion may exist.
The other cards drawn in those readings may help clarify a direction or trend, which could help refine an ultimate conclusion.
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| Belladonna |
11 May 2003 |
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The magician to me usually represents someone in control of their life AND the lives of others, not because they are in a position of authority, but because they have an innate and powerful skill at relating to people, communicating with people in a way that harnesses the collective power to bring about change in his/her life and the lives of others.
They would at times be tactful and diplomatic, at others be incredibly inspiring and seem able to put a spell over others, convincing or changing minds through his power of speech or of the written word. The key is that they know what is called for at the given moment. They know when what they have to say will be well recieved or not. They know what needs to be said to whom, when and in which manner in order to bring about a desired affect.
The desired affect would be to generate the action of others, working together to bring about the change the magician desires.
For instance, it may be an inspired and charismatic politician who could raise the conciousness level and will of the general population to work together in an organized manner to bring more and better schools to a community. He harnesses the power of others to manifest his will.
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| divinerguy |
11 May 2003 |
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Originally posted by Belladonna
For instance, it may be an inspired and charismatic politician who could raise the conciousness level and will of the general population to work together in an organized manner to bring more and better schools to a community. He harnesses the power of others to manifest his will.
I think Belladonna was able to synthesize some different ideas into a very important observation - the combination of elements and his personal charisma to obtain a desired result.
My question is . . . are his intentions noble or are they something less?
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| Belladonna |
11 May 2003 |
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Ah well, could go either way I suppose...
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The the Magician. thread was originally posted on 11 May 2003 in the Using Tarot Cards board, and is now archived in the Forum Library. Read the active threads in Using Tarot Cards, or read more archived threads.
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