find the profession

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 02 Jun 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

paulo32	02 Jun 2003
Hello I wonder if there is a way to find the profession of somme one using the tarot ? thanks paulo

Thirteen	02 Jun 2003
Most certainly--but only in a GENERAL way. You're not going to get the old "soldier, sailor, tinker, tailor...." thing, where one card absolutely tells you exactly what someone is or will be--you can only get clues that you need to interpet. One way to do this is to use a combination of the Majors and the Aces. The Aces indicate general area of profession: Wands: political/administrative/relgious--anything having to do with leading or directing people. Also inventors and HIGH ENERGY jobs. Cups: parenting/childcare/nursing/counciling--anything having to do with taking care of people emotionally--or being very empathetic. Also poets and FREE FLOWING jobs (never restrictive). Swords: pure mind/words--math/science/ journalism--relating to discussions, gossip, transfer of pure information. HIGH FLYING jobs (where the mind can soar). Pentacles: physical work--working with the hands, including craftsmen and repetitive data entry type jobs as well as consctuction workers. DOWN TO EARTH jobs (regular, steady, organized, dependable). Now, you shuffle the aces, set one down, then shuffle through the majors, set it down. The two, together, will give you an idea of the person's profession. For example: Chariot + Pentacle = probably a trucker. Pentacle is blue collar, physical, and Chariot is a job in transportation, so likely this person is a hard working trucker. If you got Chariot + Sword, that might be an airline pilot or someone who's job required them to travel a lot, like, perhaps, someone fixing high level computer programs around the world. And Chariot + Wands...heh! You've either got a race car driver there, or a soldier on a mission. Certain majors are also hints in themselves (for this you just need to study up on them): Magician strongly indicates medical profession or salesman. High Priestess a librarian, Empress a mother or artist, Emperor a leader, Hierophant, of course, a minister or teacher (but, once again, what kind of teacher would be indicated by an accompanying ace--Hierophant + Swords would be a science teacher, see?); Chariot is military or transportation, Hermit a professor or psychatrist. And the Fool is usually unemployed. Hope this helps!

gloria	02 Jun 2003
Nice one Thirteen. that made very interesting reading. Haven't come across anything as specific as that before. Do you know of any books that would include this idea? Would like to delve further. I was also thinking that maybe the astrological slant on a card, could give a clue to profession. Good question Paulo Gloria

paulo32	02 Jun 2003
Thanks for your answer Thirteen In fact i know a person who help the police somme times using the tarot, to discover what kind the person made the crime, and also the job of the person. So in fact is not in the GENERAL way has you have mencioned, but in a especific way. Because the police must have certain that is the person who have made the crime. I wonder also if you can discover my profession just in a matter of curiosity ? I donīt think that are books on the subject Gloria, at least that i have read, and i have read a lot of books about the tarot. Sorry for my english,but iīm portuguese. thanks for all paulo

sagitarian	02 Jun 2003
wow Thirteen, thanks for this, I'll have to give it a shot. Thanks.

Indigo_lady	02 Jun 2003
So I have a question here lets say we're talking about lawyers, judges too. I guess that they would be included in the suit of Swords because of the use of discussion, use of a sharp mind, transfer of information, just repeating some of the characteristics you mentioned that apply to lawyers (btw, I have a good perspective of lawyers, I've been living sorrounded by many of them my whole life so I know first hand that all of them are not cunning, blood sucking human experiments ;) ) So what major would team up with the Ace here???? Immediately I think of Justice and Judgement. I think Justice would be more appropiate in the case of a lawyer since I feel it deals more with actions and consequences, and iy does deal with legal matters in general Judgement I know is more about "the judgement day" itself, as cheesy and tacky as that might sound. Better said, a matter of personal decisions about past actions, persons, etc... But I can't help to make the link between the words lawyer, judge and judgement Any light on this? so what about cards like Wheel of Fortune, Hanged Man or Death? Thinking a bit more, how would you take the Tower? I was thinking and it seems to me that in the aspect of a career I would be inclined to take it possitively. Once I had someone do my birthchart and he started talking about Mars in it, and him speaking about the destroying qualities of Mars in a positive way. He said (in whichever position it was because I don't remember or know much about astrology to this day) it made me the kind of person that had a knack for tearing down outdated knowledge and enjoyed it very much, the kind of person that likes to come into an office to introduce a new and efficient method of running the business that leaves everyone pretty shocked and confused, but that in the end it gets amazing praise. (I have actually done this, gotten into so much immediate trouble by it, eventually achieved success, and in the meantime enjoyed every second of it .. hehehhehehe) Anyways... where I was going. Tower in a career might be considered an innovator, or just someone shaking things up in X area of work?????

Thirteen	02 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Gloria Do you know of any books that would include this idea? Would like to delve further. Um, well my book if I ever get it published. I kinda just came up with that idea...but it's really just fine tuning what the majors generally tell readers (like, Magician = Doctor, that sort of thing. This just helps tell you what kind of doctor--Sword = vocal or brain, for example). I also think it's a good idea to toss in Zodiac, by the by. Maybe even court cards as they can also specify. Quote: Originally posted by Indigo_lady So what major would team up with the Ace here???? Immediately I think of Justice and Judgement. I think Justice would be more appropiate in the case of a lawyer since I feel it deals more with actions and consequences, and iy does deal with legal matters in general Absolutely! Swords for Lawyers--and I imagine for the most fair-minded judges as well. But don't rule out Wands. There are some flamboyant lawyers and some bias judges. That one judge who had the 10 commandments put up was definately more "Wand" than "Sword." As for the Judgement card, I don't think it would have to do with Judges unless we were talking Supreme court. Quote: so what about cards like Wheel of Fortune, Hanged Man or Death? Hanged man would be someone either between jobs--or on haitus from a job--up in the mountains on retreat? Wheel of Fortune is obvious--there's your stock broker, or any other job that involves gambling, playing the odds, the ups and downs of fortune. Death well, running a funeral home comes to mind. Quote: Thinking a bit more, how would you take the Tower? Tricky--on the one hand, they might be someone who sells bad real estate--on the other hand, they might be the person who exposes people who sell bad real estate. As you say, could be someone who shakes things up--the auditor or investagator. In fact, I rather think a dectective or investagator would be perfect for The Tower. As you say, getting to the bottom of things, shaking them up, causing trouble, exposing the lies.

Inana	03 Jun 2003
Couldn't the Tower be just someone related to construction, an architect or demolitions, or any kind of job where the buildings or the home are important? I say it cause i get the tower sometimes to indicate a home, a building, or just a broken family. Maybe a combination made with cups and tower can be a social assistant or so? By the way, love your interpretations Thirteen. This is thread is very interesting.

paulo32	03 Jun 2003
Letīs supose that the person have two job, what card should be ? bye paulo

Thirteen	03 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by paulo32 Letīs supose that the person have two job, what card should be ? The Lovers, obviously ;) That's Gemini the twins--two things in your life, instead of one.

NeXoRiouS	03 Jun 2003
Tarot makes wonders, don't they? Simply creating solutions for what we yearn to know. Cool.

Keslynn	03 Jun 2003
Judgment and Ace of Swords = grad student ;) or maybe it should be the Tower or Death Sadly enough, I've had the 5 of Swords show up a lot in readings for grads. It's a fun lifestyle. :) Kes

Thirteen	03 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Keslynn Judgment and Ace of Swords = grad student ;) or maybe it should be the Tower or Death Sadly enough, I've had the 5 of Swords show up a lot in readings for grads. It's a fun lifestyle. I don't think "grad student" counts as a profession ;) but I agree 5/Swords is very much a grad student card--or maybe a Fraternity card. I am still wondering about Judgement. I think I've got it--Judgement is any job where you help someone start life over again--fresh and new. So, Judgement would indicate a person who helps people get a new home when the old one was destroyed by fire or earthquake. Or someone who helps people who've had terrible accidents--teaching them how to use artifical limbs or wheelchairs--or get around now that they're blind. This would be a person who maybe even works for an agency that puts people into hiding with new names and idenities. Or maybe, simply, the insurance man wo helps you out after your car's been stolen. In short, this person's profession is to help you start fresh, to put the past behind you and get on with a new life.

Indigo_lady	03 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Thirteen I am still wondering about Judgement. I think I've got it--Judgement is any job where you help someone start life over again--fresh and new. Hehehehehe... a plastic surgeon :-p now getting down to business, don't u think it can indicate a change of work????? Talking about plastic surgeons, like in that movie "Death becomes her" ? He has a huge career change from plastic surgeon he starts preserving corpse and then turns inspirational writer or leader (I don't remember very well the movie) of course he had an enlightening experience trying to preserve to psychopats, but he also takes his career to new *places*

Thirteen	04 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Indigo_lady Hehehehehe... a plastic surgeon :-p now getting down to business, don't u think it can indicate a change of work????? Except 90% of plastic surgeons just enhance what you have--or keep you looking the way you were. Not, as in so many movies, give you a whole new face. And yeah, sure, it could mean a change of work--but I really think the hanged man is better for "between jobs"--and then there's the Fool for unemployed. So why need a third card for saying pretty much the same thing? I mean, the question is, "What's your profession" not "are you new to the profession?" or "have you changed jobs recently?" And we haven't even touched on Temperance, the Devil, the Star, the Moon or the Sun. The Universe, to me, would signal that the person is retired but still advising or teaching whatever it was they use to do. A traveling lecturer, advisor and teacher.

gloria	04 Jun 2003
Could Judgement also describe councelling, advising people professionally on social problems, helping them to move on? Just a thought.

isthmus nekoi	04 Jun 2003
The Devil = multinational corporation. Devil+Air = heavy in the patent wars, anything to do w/hi tech communication. Devil+Fire = multimedia corp, political NGOs Devil+Earth = biotech, possibly NGOs dealing w/money Devil+Water = growing service sector This has been written w/a wry smile of course.

paulo32	04 Jun 2003
Thirteen in your post that you have said: The Lovers, obviously That's Gemini the twins--two things in your life, instead of one. well i think that is not the exact answer because the card can give us a feeling that we discover a person with two professions,but we need to know what are this two professions. The second point of view is how can we do it on a card spread ? bye paulo silva

Thirteen	04 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by paulo32 well i think that is not the exact answer because the card can give us a feeling that we discover a person with two professions,but we need to know what are this two professions. If you think the cards can tell you that a person has two professions AND what those two are in one card, you're expecting way too much of the cards. In this instance, the cards are simply giving you an extra step. The LOVERS lets you know that the person has two professions. From there, it's UP TO YOU, to pull two more cards to find out what those two professions are. Simple, no?

Dark Eyes	05 Jun 2003
Perhaps Temperence could be the chemist?? Mixed with ace of swords... perhaps he is the the chemistry lecturer Mixed with the Ace of wands... the laboratory mad scientist Mixed with the Ace of cups... the marriage guidance counsellor Mixed with the Ace of Pentacles.... he may be the agricultural / horticultural experimenter ? What are your opinions on these thirteen?? Best wishes ..Dark Eyes p.s. This is very very interesting, and exciting too !

Thirteen	05 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Dark Eyes Perhaps Temperence could be the chemist?? I love the idea of Temperance as the chemist! Wow. That really works, doesn't it? W/Swords would, as you say, likely the classic, precise lab. chemist and/or chem teacher. W/wands wouldn't be the "mad scientist" so much as the crazed inventor, I think--putting two things together that no one would ever think of putting together--be they weird flavors, or telephones & cameras--the two things exist, he puts them together, and behold! New and wonderous invention. w/Cups would certainly be the peace maker. Marriage councelor, absolutely, or even mediator in disputes. Great observation, Dark Eyes!

Dark Eyes	05 Jun 2003
Thanks Thirteen, There are certainly great areas for thought and ideas in this thread, really makes you think. I love the idea of putting aces with majors, kind of like piecing together a puzzle. You have the individual pieces, but you must combine them to get the whole picture. It is great fun. Top thread Paulo 32 ! and great observations Thirteen. Dark Eyes. :)

paulo32	06 Jun 2003
hello “Um, well my book if I ever get it published” thirteen Well if you what to publish your book in Portugal, I can send to you somme contacts of editors, but I should advice you that Portugal are importing books from brasil, so you have a better market there. The person that I know and that helps the police, donīt use minor cards, like those who have write about the profession on this threat. So I think that we donīt need the minor arcane. What we need is to establish a profound relations on the cards. That is the solution to discover what we what, and if we canīt see that relations, we may missing something, maybe we are missing the especific meaning about relations cards. Thanks Paulo

isthmus nekoi	07 Jun 2003
Temperance + Pentacles might also make a wicked chef. Cooking is very alchemical!

Inana	08 Jun 2003
I was yesterday doing some spreads to give a try with this. When doing so, one thought come to my mind... Could the ace indicate the way that person works, instead of the field the job is related too? For example: +Pentacles--> This person works in a persistent and conscientious way, but relaxed. Silent and eficient workers. +Wands--> Person that works with entusiasm, getting the things done quickly and move a lot. Dynamic workers. +Swords--> Person that needs a lot of concentration and mental thinking to get the things done. They pay a lot of attention at what are doing. Also talk a lot with their job-mates. +Cups--> Person that feels very involved in their job. They do it calmly, caring for the results. Note: I also was getting this for people who is not working currently. Any thoughts or is almost the same?

Inana	08 Jun 2003
More notes... i think Temperance makes a good nurse... And for identifying the jobs with the majors, is also some shape or an specific point of the picture who can give the idea more than the general meaning of the card. Looking at this way, could the hangued be a guitar, or the hermit an electrician or my imagination is too crazy?

paulo32	08 Jun 2003
Hello Inana what kind of spread you use ? I think is time to made a conclusion of the cards and the jobs now, to see what results we have. Anny one ? bye

Thirteen	08 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by isthmus nekoi Temperance + Pentacles might also make a wicked chef. Cooking is very alchemical! Oh, I do like this idea! INANA--also like the thought of Temperance as Nurse--likely if paired with Cups or Pentacles. I also agree that the aces could easily indicate how a person did their job as much as what that job was. Hey, da cards are flexable like that!

Inana	12 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by paulo32 Inana what kind of spread you use ? Paulo: I've used the spread Thirteen said. Separate the four Aces, mix them and take one. After, pick one Major Arcana, and look at the combo. Thirteen, i agree. The cards are very flexible, and thats one of the best things they have to work with.

Dark Eyes	12 Jun 2003
so, We still havn't touched on the star..., the moon...., the sun...., or the world !! Any suggestions for professions when these cards come up? I will try to come up with some myself, but any suggestions will help with this discussion !!!!! Regards Dark Eyes. :)

isthmus nekoi	12 Jun 2003
moon+swords=regression hypnotherapist. But that's on a good day.

firemaiden	12 Jun 2003
As I told Fantasyworld, who was looking to discover his hidden talents , the Seven of Swords Reversed is the thief card on its head, and suggests to me a policeman - someone who catches thieves, or a researcher - someone who solves mysteries, routs out funny business, or who brings hidden things to light. Strength shows a larger power (lion) subdued by love, taming, or perhaps feminine wiles - subterfuge. Thus Strength combined with the Seven of Swords Rx suggests a very skillful detective, a Sherlock Holmes, one who is able to rein in potentially dangerous people by outwitting them. The Strength card by itself might indicate an animal trainer. Perhaps for lions and tigers in a zoo, or maybe, more interestingly, little jack-russel terrier puppies for television.

paulo32	14 Jun 2003
Hello So if the person we are analising are a student,and have no profession ? I think the card is not the hangman. So what should be the card ? Thank Iana for your answer. paulo

Keslynn	14 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by paulo32 So if the person we are analising are a student,and have no profession ? I respectfully disgree with Thirteen and paulo who say that being a student is not a profession. While being a graduate student isn't supposed to be a terminal career choice in that it ostensibly leads to another career, grad school still does eat up a large chunk of someone's life (and time). A lot of people put their heart and soul (and sanity ;)) into getting their graduate degree. For the time that someone is in graduate school, that is their profession, and quite honestly, they get paid to do it. For example, I'm getting paid a very small stipend for the summer so that I can do my work. I would tend to agree more if we were speaking about undergraduate students who only spend 4 years, at least in the US. That's definitely a more transitory and directed at another goal. :) Kes

paulo32	15 Jun 2003
Hello Keslynn I understand your point a view, but the principal question is not that. The main questions is: what is the cart who can tell you if your have not a job,and your are not unemploed. The next point is for ianna, or somme one who can answer: I use the celtic cross,on the spreads. So if i try to find the job of somme one i just simply join one more card:the maijor arcane and one with minor card on the celtic cross ? thanks paulo

isthmus nekoi	15 Jun 2003
strength+pentacles=farming... it's a difficult job. strength+swords=lawyer?

Keslynn	15 Jun 2003
Paulo, I personally think that it would be the Ace of Swords and Judgement, although there may me many other careers that could be signified by that combination. Students of any kind are often under a lot of pressure all the time from parents and teachers so I think Judgement is most appropriate. Depending on how tough the pressure is, it could be the Hierophant. I hope that answers your question. What do you think it might be? :) Kes

Inana	16 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by paulo32 The next point is for ianna, or somme one who can answer: I use the celtic cross,on the spreads. So if i try to find the job of somme one i just simply join one more card:the maijor arcane and one with minor card on the celtic cross ? Im not an expert at spread types and quite unsure if i understood fine your question. Anyways i think is just a matter of your taste when it comes to spreads. Personally, find is more easy to do a quick reading apart with this Ace+Major Arcana system, before or after the celtic cross if you want to know about the profession of that person. But thats just me, and basically because I cant come with any idea to integrate this spread for the profession in the Celtic Cross. Dont know if this answers what you are asking, but hope it helps somehow.

paulo32	19 Jun 2003
Hello Keslynn, i donīt know the rigth card to define the position student, thatīs why I have try the answer on the forum. Iīll try to see if the position of student can be your answer. I think you undertsand my question Ianna. I fact I donīt need a expert in spreads it was only a simple analise by you. I just want to extend the celtic cross,with the card who defines the job person, and you have donne that. Thanks for your answer.

Dark Eyes	19 Jun 2003
Hi Paulo, I also see that the Heirophant together with Ace of swords may indicate a student or studying career. I also think Ace of swords + any major may = indicate the subject of a student. For instance, as swords are the air/mind/written word or verbal word, and knowing the client may be a student, the major in the spread may indicate the subject they are interested in studying. For example..... Ace swords + magician.... maybe studying creative sales techniques Ace swords + strength.... maybe studying bodybuilding and ways to increase muscle and strength Ace swords + tower reversed....Maybe studying construction and ways to strengthen buildings that are weakening with age. Do you or anybody else think this could be indicative of a subject being studied by a student in a reading ? Any responses welcome please Regards and encouragement Dark Eyes. :)

Keslynn	20 Jun 2003
That's a good idea, Dark Eyes. However, it might be difficult to tell the difference between an actual mentally specific job (lawyer is the only one I can think of right now), and a student for a job. One way, I guess, might be to notice if there are any Pages in the spread? Or one could also ask the querent if it's supposed to be referring to them. :) Kes

Dark Eyes	20 Jun 2003
Good point Keslynn, I see what you mean, and yes, that may work! What I actually meant was that if you knew the querent was a student, it may help if we can identify their subject of study using the cards. It is interesting isn't it. There are so many amazing ways to work with the cards arn't there. !! Best wishes Dark Eyes :)

Celtic_Dragon	22 Jun 2003
I don't remember if we were going in any specific order but here's a few that just jumped at me: Temprance+swords= interpreter (two or more languages mixed in the same container, the brain?) I agree with the Temprance+pentagles=chef combination Temprance+wands= embassator death+wands= dare devil? (death wish, or defying death?) star+swords=white house representive star+wands=entertainer, singer/actor star+pentacles=greenpeace that's all I can think of right now. And I don't know if anyone's said this but I'd see the court cards as the person's approach to their job.

Belladonna	27 Jun 2003
I'm a stay-at-home mom, but I've been thinking about a career path and decided to pull two cards to advise me on which type of career would be suitable for me. They were the Ace of Swords, rx and the Lovers, rx. Anyone have any interpretation other than divorce lawyer!?!

paulo32	28 Jun 2003
I donīt know if you gonna be a divorce lawyer,but by the nice name you have i think you should be the Queen of Cape Breton. bye paulo

Inana	28 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Belladonna I'm a stay-at-home mom, but I've been thinking about a career path and decided to pull two cards to advise me on which type of career would be suitable for me. They were the Ace of Swords, rx and the Lovers, rx. Anyone have any interpretation other than divorce lawyer!?! Mmmmmh... I dont have any interpretation now in mind and neither use reversals, but hey! if you dont like that and the cards showed reversed, then perhaps the message is: that is not for you! Or maybe you are not really wanting to concentrate or study on something at the moment? :confused:

paulo32	28 Jun 2003
Yes Inana i think she is studing, and i think that she is younger than me.(my age is on my nick). And i think she is wants to go to a carreer of law or anny similar,but it is just a guess. bye paulo

Belladonna	29 Jun 2003
Thank you for the compliment, Paulo! Yes, I am younger than you (I checked your profile.) I'm 27, was trained as a chef, am now a mom and read the tarot professionally which I love and continue to study. I don't think I've ever really considered going into law, though. Inana, I almost always use reversals in a reading, but when I drew these two, my immediate gut reaction (which I ignored) was to read them upright. In that case, would these cards ring any bells? How about romance novelist?

dolphinprincess	29 Jun 2003
I tried this spread bc I have really been searching for a new career path... I pulled Justice and the Ace of Cups. I was not surprised at all by the cups but I'm not sure about Justice? I know I wont' be a lawyer so does anyone have any suggestions??? Much appreciated!

Celtic_Dragon	29 Jun 2003
Quote: Originally posted by dolphinprincess I tried this spread bc I have really been searching for a new career path... I pulled Justice and the Ace of Cups. I was not surprised at all by the cups but I'm not sure about Justice? I know I wont' be a lawyer so does anyone have any suggestions??? Much appreciated! The only thing I can think of is marrige counsler (is that spelled correctly?) I wonder....should I do a reading to see if I'm heading towards the right career choice for myself?.....YEP!!

Flavio	20 May 2004
My niece will become 5 years old next month and somehow her parents and grandmother see in her a future surgeon, I showed her the tarot cards for the 1st time in her life, so I tought it could be nice to ask if she will become surgeon I shuffled all the cards and asked her to pick 1, she picked up the Page of Swords! for me that is a Yes! based only in the youth of the character and a sharp object in her hand, I used the Hanson Roberts and even the androgenous character have little resemblance of her. Donīt you love when Tarot answer in such a graphical way?

Star Spirit	20 May 2004
What a great thread. Useful ideas. Quote: And the Fool is usually unemployed. Teeehee...

punchinella	22 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Belladonna I'm a stay-at-home mom, but I've been thinking about a career path and decided to pull two cards to advise me on which type of career would be suitable for me. They were the Ace of Swords, rx and the Lovers, rx. Anyone have any interpretation other than divorce lawyer!?! Belladonna, to me this indicates the wisdom of deciding to remain a stay-at-home mom! I'm particularly interested in your cards, because I asked my deck, last night, which profession in an absolutely perfect universe would best suit my character, & drew Ace of Swords & Lovers, both upright (well, I don't use reversals). I took this to mean that I'd wake up every morning & head straight for the library, to study something I loved & was passionate about :) (I'm not sure about the Lovers =ing gemini, I tend to view the Sun card that way instead . . . in the Marseilles deck, that is . . . ) *********************************************** In another vein altogether, this idea has taken such possession of me that I absolutely have to proceed on to the reading exchange to offer some 'finding one's true vocation' readings . . . Thirteen, I hope you don't mind me using your method (I'll be sure to provide a link back to this thread, of course :) ) --Thanks everyone for a fun read!

Phoenix Rising	23 May 2004
Hi great thread, I also pulled "lovers and Swords" Just before I read the post for that combination. I know my path involves being in service to others, in a healing sense, form of counselling and I'd really like to teach, but in a workshop type scenario. So it's the "lovers" card that has us all stumped at the moment, apart from having 2 professions. Hmmm using the mind for pure transfer of information - channeller The lovers card has never struck me as a choice. Only that Eve, made Adam make a choice to partake of the fruit of the Tree of Life. The tree of life(qabbalah) and from what I understood that to be was how to gain all knowing knowledge. The serpent was the kundalini. Eve knew how to raise her kundalini, and she gained this knowledge. But I've recently realised as to what i want to do, and it is to do with the mind. But raising "consciousness" So I understand what this combination means to me. It's helping raise consciousness, through the mind.

Namaste	31 May 2004
Great idea, Thirteen. Thanks! :)

punchinella	01 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Phoenix Rising I know my path involves being in service to others, in a healing sense, form of counselling and I'd really like to teach, but in a workshop type scenario. So it's the "lovers" card that has us all stumped at the moment, apart from having 2 professions. But I've recently realised as to what i want to do, and it is to do with the mind. But raising "consciousness" So I understand what this combination means to me. It's helping raise consciousness, through the mind. Phoenix Rising, I'm also looking to become a teacher, & in another reading tmgrl2 has just confirmed for me that this is a good plan. So my reality coincides with your reading (of the same cards)--I know you were reading for yourself, but thanks! Good job, works for me too!!!

Shalott	01 Jun 2004
I just finally got around to trying this out. I did one for a friend which sounded pretty accurate knowing her, but then one for me: Ace of Swords plus Wheel of Fortune! I saw earlier Thirteen said stock broker-type jobs...YIKES I know nothing of finance and am horrible with numbers and stress...the first thing that popped into my head was Pro Tarot Reader! That would be cool (cuz Waite said something about The Wheel representing the Tarot itself)...I may not be ready just now but I can see it happening! Does that make sense with the Wheel o' Fortune? That would rock, even on a PT basis!

Luminessence	05 Jun 2004
So what type of career would The World indicate?

Shalott	05 Jun 2004
Luminessence: You will take over the WORLD!!! Bwahahahahahah!!!!

CreativeFire	06 Jun 2004
I have been reading through this thread with interest after Punchinella's great thread in the reading exchange on our vocations. I tried this 2 card pull for a friend and the cards came up with The Emperor and The Ace of Swords, which I have been struggling a bit with the vocation. I was thinking along the lines of an authority on something, maybe a speaker or trainer or some kind. Any other ideas or thoughts on this one would be appreciated. :) Thanks CreativeFire

Shalott	06 Jun 2004
Hey, CreativeFire, for some reason this strikes me as political or military...sounds like your friend would have talent as a leader, and unless it's realistic for him/her to actually become a CEO or Chairperson of a Board...well, most "managers" I've known have been of the Pointy-Haired variety fo I'm biased against middle management. But yeah, I think you're right thinking authority.

Sillanza	07 Jun 2004
This is a fascinating thread! I'm kinda thinking though that Death combined with the various Aces might be someone who changes things and makes them new: Swords = paralegal, ghostwriter, editor Wands = career counselor/headhunter, coach Pents = contractor, landscaper, loan officer Cups = marriage/family counselor, dating service (in case the counseling doesn't work out ...)

Sillanza	07 Jun 2004
Here's an idea for the Aces + Star. You're the one who guides (or is guided) in the right direction: Swords = software designer, PR Wands = travel/tourism, inventor Pents = financial advisor, weatherman, astronomer Cups = youth counselor, performer

CreativeFire	07 Jun 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Shalott Hey, CreativeFire, for some reason this strikes me as political or military...sounds like your friend would have talent as a leader, and unless it's realistic for him/her to actually become a CEO or Chairperson of a Board...well, most "managers" I've known have been of the Pointy-Haired variety fo I'm biased against middle management. But yeah, I think you're right thinking authority. Thanks for the input Shalott, I had not thought of the military or political - which when you mention it duh! - Emperor! LOL I guess I have been struggling as this friend has finally decided to do a course to become a Personal Trainer, which she actually starts next week. When I think about it you could almost interpret this combination of Emperor - Ace of Swords for that sort of career as Personal Trainers are supposedly the experts and authority on what sort of physical training that you do and they are paid to be like a Sergeant Major! I don't know about the Swords though as I associate this to more intellectual than physical but when I think about it, often pushing yourself with physical training can sometimes be a bit of mind over matter as well in that you have to have the motivation and the conscious thought on what you want to achieve with the training that you are doing. Am I stretching it a bit far here to make it fit or what! :D CreativeFire

Shalott	07 Jun 2004
Yeah, Swords are more the intellectual version of whatever Major is associated. But I don't know that this little spread is meant so much to be predictive as just saying what would be an ideal career for the person.

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