Your Year Card changes on January 1
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 28 Nov 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| skytwig |
28 Nov 2003 |
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I thought this might be interesting, as the calendar New Year approaches.... Moongold kindly typed up pages from Mary Greer's out of print book, Tarot Constellations, in this thread from March of this year in this thread:
http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12687
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| Star Spirit |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Great thread skytwig.
My Year Card this year is/was 9: The Hermit (very much my personality, and my year I might add). Nine is my life number and pretty much everything number. My Year Card for 2004 will be 10: The Wheel of Fortune.
I honestly don't think I could have a better card. I have a lot of hopes and dreams for the coming year, things I've wanted/needed for a very long time, so I hope that's a good sign.
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| Jewel-ry |
29 Nov 2003 |
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My year this year is the WOF, and its been a nice year. This means that last year was a hermit year, next year justice mmmm
J.
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| lunalafey |
29 Nov 2003 |
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let's see;
month-------------12
day-----------------31
coming year---2004
_________________
------------------2047
2+4+7=13
*sigh*
Death has it's good! new growth and all, but what a grim sounding title!
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| Tallarico |
29 Nov 2003 |
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My card for 2004 is 6...Wondering if (my birthday is in August) one may begin to feel the "events" or the feelings before the new year? Like Nov/Dec, just have inklings in the brain, but taking no action as of yet?
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| ros |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Skytwig,
I could never figure out why some readers go from bday to bday & others go from Jan. to Jan. I finally got it,THANKS!!!
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| Marion |
29 Nov 2003 |
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I am just completing that cycle Moongold quoted, a Hermit year followed by a Wheel of Fortune year. This coming year is Justice. (I guess it would be Strength for the Marseille crowd). Does that mean I am going to get what I deserve this year? :) Whatever that might be.
Incidently DeadStar, I am also a 9 person in my name aspect. 19-10-1 in all others.
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| Inana |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Originally posted by Tallarico
My card for 2004 is 6...Wondering if (my birthday is in August) one may begin to feel the "events" or the feelings before the new year? Like Nov/Dec, just have inklings in the brain, but taking no action as of yet?
My year card for 2004 is The Lovers too!
I dont know about others, but my birthday is on november so I prefer to consider is then when my year card starts, rather than January. So, Tallarico, if you consider your year starts with your birthday, what you are asking is very possible.
About people who have death as year card. One day i was trying to see what cards where my year card on the past. I've found after a Death year, always started a new cycle (the next one not following with the tower, breaking the numbers sequence). Did anyone else noticed this too?
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| Marion |
29 Nov 2003 |
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It doesn't just break at Death, it can be anywhere. I plotted mine out on a grpah in one of those books. The sequence does not run straight through the cards.
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| MeeWah |
29 Nov 2003 |
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In the interest of offering another view, I see the Year Card as changing upon the birthday.
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| Indigo_lady |
29 Nov 2003 |
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---- > This is how you calculate your year card, directly quoted from the book Tarot Constellations by Mary Greer.
The month of your birth:...19
The day of your birth:.......12
The CURRENT year:.......2003
Equals:..........................2034 = 9 Hermit
In determine the Year Card, always keep the highest number under 23 and don't reduce it.
???????????
Maybe I just woke up and I'm still a little bit confused, but doesn't the year have only 12 months???????????
Anyways...
I'll be moving from an Emperor experience, to a Hierophant experience...
I have a question, I think the answer is pretty obvious, but still I would like some reassurance. The year card also has to do with the people that you will encounter during that period of time?
I mean, in the sense that it can also stand for the predominant influences/characteristics of the people that you might meet (or already know) that will be influential on you through the course of a year?
I hadn't given the year card much thought in a while because I wasn't really feeling the emperor vibe around. But now that I saw it again I realised that for the last couple of months there has been a really important Emperor soul card person involved in my life... so I guess that's a begining in understanding how this whole soul card / year card business works... hehehee
I've read about it often, but hands on experience is always better for me in understanding something
;)
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| Ruby Red Slippers |
29 Nov 2003 |
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OK, help me out here. I've always done the "year card" on the birthday, since my birthday is 12-21. If I did it on 1-1, I'd have only had 10 days to experience the "energy" of that years card???
Or is everyone saying that the year card changes on 1-1 but the full energy is actually felt close to your birthdate?
This is a concern to me because I've done the graph chart by Mary Greer, and it changes depending on how you figure this all out.
HELP...........So in 22 days will I be in a 12+21+2003 = 11 Justice or 12+21+2004 = 12 Hanged Man. What's a girl to do??? [toto, i don't think we are in kansas anymore!]
RRS
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| skytwig |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Originally posted by Ruby Red Slippers
OK, help me out here. I've always done the "year card" on the birthday, since my birthday is 12-21. If I did it on 1-1, I'd have only had 10 days to experience the "energy" of that years card???
Or is everyone saying that the year card changes on 1-1 but the full energy is actually felt close to your birthdate?
I wish I had my Tarot Handbook .... sigh..... it's in storage right now.....
I went back to that thread and pulled this (by our dear Moongold again :) )
There are two different cycles. 1 January signifies the beginning f a period in whuch things happen to you.You then begin to learn the lesson of the year through experiences that require you to face the issues represented. Greer calls this the outer or event oriented cycle.
By your birthday you will have integrated the lessons to an extent that you will begin acting out that energy. In this way you have a birthday to birthday inner experience cycle.
Hope this helps :)
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| MeeWah |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Ruby Red Slippers: Ah--how auspicious to be born on the Winter Solstice!
Based on the birthday-to-birthday Year Card, your current Year Card is 10-Wheel of Fortune, *based on the last birthday still in effect*:
........12
........21
....2002
..=2035 = 10
Have found that in a Wheel of Fortune Year, it also helps to look at other aspects such as 1-The Magician.
The next birthday is within this year, 2003:
........12
........21
....2003
..=2036 = 11
Thus, your *next year* is Justice (if ye go by the RWS numbering). Accordingly, helpful to look at 2-The High Priestess as well.
In addition, any of the minor arcana that appear in a throw matching the same year number would be aspects expressive of the particular year's energy.
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| MeeWah |
29 Nov 2003 |
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As Inana noticed & Marion indicated, the numbers do not occur sequentially as one would expect.
I went from a 13-Death Year in 2001 to 5-The Hierophant in 2002.
2001 was quite intense & full of surprises; included a number of household appliances dying which I can laugh at in hindsight. It included my PC crashing. I think that is when I lost all my data, including all my Tarotwork!
2002 brought health matters into a primary focus--included those of family members, too. There is a difference of about 6 months between hubby's year card & mine so that we share the same energetic influences for part of the year.
Currently in 6-The Lovers. As 'tis my Personality/Soul Card, this year is intense as well. Many activities focussed on relations of all kinds & making decisions, some of which I do not expect may come into effect until the next year.
Interestingly, one of the most challenging years was in 1999, 11-Justice. Foresaw a number of things before my birthday when I inadvertently picked up 11-Justice whilst gathering up cards from a reading for someone else. When I touched the card, I had visions of things that came to pass within 1999, including my Da's passing (of which I only told hubby--very rough year all around).
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| Marion |
29 Nov 2003 |
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erk. I had not realized that Justice was a challenging year. Anyway, I have another 5 months before my birthday, since I am completely converted to the b'day to b'day system. Still in that 'ole debil' Wheel year. hehe. What a ride.
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| RedWood |
29 Nov 2003 |
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My Year card for this year is 7..
Next year is 8
My birthday is Dec. 17. I would think it would be starting soon. Since my birthday and New Years are so close together.
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| MeeWah |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Marion: It need not be for ye. I think it depends upon the individual & other aspects.
For me, the glimpses served as preparation for the time ahead. It would be accurate to say I spent part of the year grieving in advance for what I saw that included other events. Even to offering to do anything within my power to prevent things from happening. Such as offering years from my life to give to Da--not that I know what there is to give which I quickly stopped as I realized albeit dimly, not my call but possibly his.
Oddly, I still do not see those various events nor others previous as "pre-destined" nor "fated". Just part of how aspects of an individual life express themselves based also in part on past actions & endeavors; what is needed to be learned.
If anything, I saw yet again that foreknowledge, second sight or whatever one calls it is both a blessing & a curse. Also that there is Grace in being given such information. So that one can seek to make the most of any possible opportunity to change oneself &/or broaden the perception.
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| Inana |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Originally posted by Marion
It doesn't just break at Death, it can be anywhere. I plotted mine out on a grpah in one of those books. The sequence does not run straight through the cards.
Hey, Marion!!
I know, it doesnt break always at Death, but when i was looking at mine and others from my family it was that way mostly... So i was curious if its the same for others. Cause it makes a lot of sense ending the cycle with death.
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| rubricat |
29 Nov 2003 |
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advice / help :(
7+27+2004 = 2+0+3+8 = 5+8=13
So, it's Death for my coming year? A little scary, since I've been undergoing alot of change in the past few years and was looking forward to more peaceful/settling times in the year ahead.
Any ideas from the group about what I can look forward to and watch out for?
Now, someone also mentioned the year card signifying relationship(s) and corresponding to another's soul cards.
I don't know anyone right now with Death as their soul card. Am curious about who I might be attracting with Death as a year card. Ideas?
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| lunalafey |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Originally posted by Ruby Red Slippers
OK, help me out here. I've always done the "year card" on the birthday, since my birthday is 12-21. If I did it on 1-1, I'd have only had 10 days to experience the "energy" of that years card???
Or is everyone saying that the year card changes on 1-1 but the full energy is actually felt close to your birthdate?
This is a concern to me because I've done the graph chart by Mary Greer, and it changes depending on how you figure this all out.
HELP...........So in 22 days will I be in a 12+21+2003 = 11 Justice or 12+21+2004 = 12 Hanged Man. What's a girl to do??? [toto, i don't think we are in kansas anymore!]
RRS
LOL-
Ruby, I sympathise with you- the last time we talked year cards, I had the same question. See, my birthday is on the LAST day of the year- so do I 'hold' two cards through the year? I get a 12 for this birthday and a 13 for the year 2004- In 2003, (bday-card was) 12+31+2002=11 and the year card was 12---
It really frustraited me because I want just one card to focus on!
but I guess in some ways working with the two is simplified since they 'change' between the cards is just one day apart. Then again, If I calculate this card by my GMT birthdate. It would be ONE card and the SAME card!......*sigh*
rubricat You are not alone......Death is my card for the year as well.
Perhaps once we find those that share the same year cards, we can go off in 'our' groups and support each other through Death/Tower/ and Devil (etc) years-- LOL!
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| skytwig |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Originally posted by rubricat
[b] Now, someone also mentioned the year card signifying relationship(s) and corresponding to another's soul cards.
I don't know anyone right now with Death as their soul card. Am curious about who I might be attracting with Death as a year card. Ideas?
I was just thinking that the year itself, 2004, is a 6, the Lovers card....... which is a strong relationship/balance card.... that has to affect us, doesn't it?
My Birthday for 2004 adds up to Temperance.... July 10.... 7+10+2004 = 7+1+0+2+0+0+4 = 14...... wuhoooooooo..... should be a very Creative year!!!!
I sure hope so..... sheesh, rubricat, I just realized I had a Death year.......
Um, well, uh, (clears her throat and tries to back out of the room....... )
Well, rubricat....... FOR ME..... for me, for me, it is not necessarily going to be the same for you....... my whole working life ended!!!!
Lost my job, my back, my independence, my antiques and my home......... :(
But, here's the cool stuff....... IT WAS ALL FOR GOOD!!!!!
I think Death can mean a year of getting to what is important.... and being around the time of the Harmonic concordance, that is essential......
What happens is the dross falls away (Ah, sweet Tower) and the Gold appears...... The Gold becomes very visible... in fact it becomes VITAL......
If you appreciate Value and the Gem core of your soul..... what you are all about...... why you are here on Earth, you will love this year!!!!
I had to lose that relationship with deceptive employers who were using me (I was Admin Asst to the President of a multisite treatment facility) The CEO (and oh how I adored him at one time.... like Santa, a laughing, seemingly caring psychiatrist) is a crook, but I didn't learn this until the whole thing went down..... I was fired while out on medical leave, 4 months after submitting a harrassment complaint...... I lost everything except my spirit and my artwork and my laptop & writings and my family (I live with my daughter now)......
Now, I am illustrating a children's book for an author in Minnesota who owns her own publishing company...... more is coming..... my daughter recently asked what it would take to get a Reiki Practice going for me..... wuhooooooo! (I am a reiki healer)
So I know it is time for me to do my work, not someone else's..... don't know how it will unfold, but I know, after witnessing Goddesses dynamic insistence(!) that it IS unfolding now!!
Wow...... and in 2001, it was a Strength year and that year i made this amazing Kali wand......... hmmmmmmmm :)
Ain't life GRAND!! :laugh:
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| skytwig |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Originally posted by lunalafey
rubricat You are not alone......Death is my card for the year as well.
Perhaps once we find those that share the same year cards, we can go off in 'our' groups and support each other through Death/Tower/ and Devil (etc) years-- LOL!
That's not a bad idea, luna :D..... I just posted that this year has been a Death yr for me and has been tough, but wonderful!! (Only Taroists would understand that.... ;) )
Anyway..... I think the best way to know about the two or one card question you had, luna, is to take a look back at your years..... see what cards they were and write down notes and observations about those years .... look in old journals.... look at old calendars..... then you will see how or if each card was relevant and how that relates to whether the two or the one card relates to you.
Does that make sense? :laugh: Hope so.......
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| Moongold |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Mary Greer cites one way of determining the Year card and for most people that works. It is not set in concrete though.
Some people work from different numerological systems. Umbrae has a different one that works for him.
The year card is calculated by adding up the Day+Month+Current Year. I don't see that it really matters that much if people play with this a bit. What is important, after all, is what has meaning for you personally. These systems are guidelines, not universal laws. If you were a Hindu living in Melbourne, you might well subscribe to the numerological system of your culture.
This has been a Hermit Year for me, and it sure has. It is finishing that way too. Lots of internal work.
Next year I go into the Wheel of Fortune, and have not even begun to think about this. The Hermit work will continue on an ongoing basis. It simply does not stop because a date passes.
Whatever your *Year* is may it be blessed and happy, and may the music of Mother Earth always accompany you :).
Moongold
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| Moongold |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Dear friends,
Looking back, my birthday is towards the end of the year. I would have had 12 days of 8 Strength. I didn't sit down to do the year card thing properly until 2003 and by then the Tarot Year Card was Hermit. I just decided to go with that.
Perhaps I should have been Strength all this year? Well I was. Hermits are strong too :D.
Hermit fits better.
Moongold
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| WolfyJames |
29 Nov 2003 |
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I calculated the whole things and this year was a Hanged Man year for me. I admit that my life and projects were on hold all year long. Things have started to unfold lately. And that's because I've kept going all year long stubbornly, kept pushing and waiting, and hoping... It was like if the entire universe was against me, obstacles after obstacles, the opportunities vanishing. It was a tough year, and I was desperate and felt that there would be no end to it. Well, there is always an end to everything. I kept going on anyway and continued my plans even if it seemed impossible. And now, wow! All my hard work is being paid back. My projects are happening now, all that because I persevered against all odds.
The coming year is Death, and I don't fear it. I'm just going to do what I usually do : hoping and persevering.
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| MeeWah |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Moongold: The year would have been Strength through to the next birthday (12 months), not ended at the end of the calendar year.
Strength is an interesting year in that it tries the soul. Though I can see such an application with other year energies, Strength seems particularly suited. Tends to be a very busy time related to studying &/or learning; involves the demands of the inner & outer selves.
WolfyJames: Things change as one nears the end of one year cycle & another approaches, usually due to overlapping energies. As ye have been working steadily, then ye are at an advantage with the onset of a Death cycle. It can offer breakthroughs & progress were previously there were delays, setbacks, blocks.
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| skytwig |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Originally posted by MeeWah
Things change as one nears the end of one year cycle & another approaches, usually due to overlapping energies. As ye have been working steadily, then ye are at an advantage with the onset of a Death cycle. It can offer breakthroughs & progress were previously there were delays, setbacks, blocks.
Two things here that I appreciate..... the overlapping occurrence, which we see so much (or at least I do) in astrological occurrences.... and the miracle of the Death card... the liberation, the newness poking through the soil of the groundwork, finally finding growth in the mulch of yesterday's slow change.......
Thank you meewah :D.
I think we are probably all feeling or noticing the shift in our lives, the overlapping effect of transition...... Maybe that's why humans dive into the holiday thing so much at the end and beginning of the years..... we all feel something, something shifting, something calling our souls........
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| Moongold |
29 Nov 2003 |
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Originally posted by MeeWah
Moongold: The year would have been Strength through to the next birthday (12 months), not ended at the end of the calendar year.
Strength is an interesting year in that it tries the soul. Though I can see such an application with other year energies, Strength seems particularly suited. Tends to be a very busy time related to studying &/or learning; involves the demands of the inner & outer selves.
MeeWah,
This is an interesting way of looking at it. The last year certainly has tried (and tired) the soul. And I am currently doing quite a lot of internal work. I don't mind if it is Strength. It means I have another Hermit year next year and I might enjoy this one:).
This also demonstrates how complex and multidimensional we all are - that many Tarot archetypes may have application, not just one or two.
It seems that the year cards give us something to focus on, some direction and energy.
Thanks heaps, MeeWah
Moongold
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| Melvis |
30 Nov 2003 |
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2004 will be a #7 Chariot year for me.
Hmmm...do you think it's any coincidence that I've decided to move at the beginning of 2004? Hee. I do believe that thoughts of Tarot are always hiding in the corners of my brain, subtly influencing my decisions! ;)
Peace,
Melvis
:TSTRE
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| firemaiden |
30 Nov 2003 |
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hmmm, if we go birthday to birthday, then this is a hanged year for me?
....9
...16
2003
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2028 = XII
and if year to year
....9
...16
2004
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2029 = XIII
UH OH
But in Umbrae's system, it is different.
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| lunalafey |
30 Nov 2003 |
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Originally posted by firemaiden
....9
...16
2004
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2029 = XIII
UH OH
a silver haired, dark figure- riding upon a pale horse, gallops up to firemaiden- leans over with out breaking stride and extends an arm that scoops firemaiden up & places her upon the horses back.......a wisper in the wind says "you ride with us now!"
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| Lillithowl |
06 Dec 2003 |
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This is very interesting.
My numbers also added up to a ten (for 2003) and its been a tough year but there have been changes and hopefully the scales of Justice will keep 2004 a bit more steady.
Thanks for sharing this I didn't know it and its great to be exposed to new ideas and techniques.
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| firestorm |
07 Dec 2003 |
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Hmmmm. 11 for me. Do I get to pick between Justice and Strength? :D
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| Kiama |
07 Dec 2003 |
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This year's card for me is...
....17
....07
2004
= 2028 = 12 Hanged Man.
I'm not quite sure if that's a bad thing or a good thing! ;)
Kiama
Edited to correct very embarrassing maths mistakes! (They were typos, honestly!)
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| Strange2 |
07 Dec 2003 |
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Originally posted by firestorm
Hmmmm. 11 for me. Do I get to pick between Justice and Strength? :D
I'm facing the same dilemma for next year. I'm leaning towards Justice, in the more traditional order.
This year was definitely a good Chariot year for me (finally acquired a new car).
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| MeeWah |
07 Dec 2003 |
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Firestorm: That is up to ye, & depends on which order ye ascribe to.
8-Strength & 11-Justice works for me (based on long-term numerological associations) so those are the correspondences I use.
Strange2: Thanks for sharing that. We acquired a "new" used car in my Chariot Year, too :)
I have found The Chariot to appear just prior to the need for car repairs or a new car. Since I rarely see it appear in any personal cards, I noted it when it appeared as a daily card & in throws for me & hubby several years ago. Whilst it did apply in some other matters, it dinna hit me until just before the old car died & we had to hunt for a replacement. It appeared the same day we located a replacement via a private ad. Some time later, The Chariot turned up again when we began having major problems with the replacement. Synchronistically, a friend phoned us to offer us a used car--& just in time!
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| raeanne |
07 Dec 2003 |
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Hi all,
12
12
+2004
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2028
My new year card will be the Hanged Man. I don't know what's in store for me but I am ready for a change so hopefully it will be a positive year.
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| Star Spirit |
08 Dec 2003 |
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Is it just me, or do a lot of people have Death cards???
And a few Wheel of Fortune, Justice, Hanged Man, and then the occasional odd man out. But there seems to be a slight pattern happening...
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| jog1118 |
08 Dec 2003 |
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for 2004 i'm having an 8!!!
justice or strength?
i'm hoping for justice, considering it's thoth counterpart-adjustment: i really, really need to adjust my financial problems for the better...
:smoker:
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| Agathe |
08 Dec 2003 |
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It's my Death year that's coming. I'm looking forward to it as I need those changes VERY much. So all you Death year people...hope it'll bring us some good changes :o)
Agathe
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| dolphinprincess |
08 Dec 2003 |
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....01
....02
2004
______
2007 = 9 The Hermit!
I was born on January 2nd, so I guess I don't really need to worry about starting on the new year or my birthday :o)
.. this card makes sense to me. it will be a year of soul searching and introspection... and hopefully a year of understanding what i want in life...
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| BlueLotus |
08 Dec 2003 |
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I am moving from the Hierophant year ( 5) to Lovers' (6 ) year by 2004?
Does anyone know if this means,I will be finding love/companionship in 2004, as opposed to going it alone/the hard way ? frankly this HAS BEEN a very 'strange', more like stern year indeed, unlike my usual happy-go-lucky self, I am very restrained - some of it of my own making-, so I am looking forward to some changes in my outlook and 'luck', and possibly a more 'balanced' existence.
I quote
this card ( the hierophant) says; it is not easy, not a quick fix, but it is do-able. The solution is there, you've only to bring it down to Earth. which I did deligently---from
Am I going to be more balanced in 2004? Is love going to hit me by storm? tuning in to my emotional/heart and practical/mind sides, finding my 'other' self and trying to weigh them against each other, and finding harmony?
I quote, reading from the Lovers interpretation
It's sudden and unexpected, and it means a compete change in plans; but this is LOVE. True love. Go for it! . From I tend to like this
Anyone been there? Tell me what you know about a 6 year please
Good year to all
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| tepia |
08 Dec 2003 |
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Hi
I have a question -
using the method that has been laid out month+day+year, is there any way to get a zero (fool), 1 (magician), 2 (high preistess), or 3 (empress). If everything added up to 21 you would have the world card. If it added up to 22, you could these numbers together and get 4.
I was just noting how everyone seemed to get similar years, and i was wondering if using this method doesn't allow you to get some cards for your year ever, and what does that mean?
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| Red Emma |
08 Dec 2003 |
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Okay, here's my story:
Month of birth: 6
Day of birth: 28
Year: 2004
Total: 2038 = 13
However, considering that I'm 77, I really want no truck with a death card! How about 1 + 3 = 4. I'd prefer to deal with the emporer!
Still, I could use some change, if it isn't too drastic a change.
Goddess Bless
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| rexenne2003 |
08 Dec 2003 |
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Mine turned out be 4, The Emperor in my Witches Tarot which says: Seeking Wisdom, or should seek it, moves towards it, a search for energy, developement of force, the number five.
For some reason the emperor is associated to the number five, even though it is the fourth card in the line up. Fives represent changes.
So I see that I will be working with my mind a lot within the next year, and developing my physic senses and chakras (which I am currently working on)
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| Marion |
08 Dec 2003 |
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Originally posted by tepia
I have a question -
using the method that has been laid out month+day+year, is there any way to get a zero (fool), 1 (magician), 2 (high preistess), or 3 (empress). If everything added up to 21 you would have the world card. If it added up to 22, you could these numbers together and get 4. I was just noting how everyone seemed to get similar years, and I was wondering if using this method doesn't allow you to get some cards for your year ever, and what does that mean? tepia, I have not worked it out, but it seems that you are right that it would be hard (impossible?) to get anything less than IV. I worked mine out for my whole (projected) life and the numbers always stayed in the middle of the range.
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| Myrrha |
08 Dec 2003 |
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Originally posted by Marion
I am just completing that cycle Moongold quoted, a Hermit year followed by a Wheel of Fortune year. This coming year is Justice. (I guess it would be Strength for the Marseille crowd). Does that mean I am going to get what I deserve this year? :) Whatever that might be.
Incidently DeadStar, I am also a 9 person in my name aspect. 19-10-1 in all others.
So am I, Marion. My birthday is in December. The past year really seemed like a wheel of fortune year in that I tried several different jobs and had to change my living situation a couple of times. As far as the birthday to birthday calculation giving me the hermit, that makes sense also as I was very aware of the advantages of having more time to myself, and dealing in a more aware way with some of the problems that come from having an introverted personality. So I guess using both calculations works for me!
Wishing everyone a great year...:)
--Myrrha
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| MeeWah |
09 Dec 2003 |
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Feebie: Regarding your query about The Lovers Year--as with any particular year, it would depend on the preoccupations, the focus & actions taken in the previous year.
A Lovers Year has the potential resolution of existing issues or situations but is not limited to just one's love life per se. It also pertains to the relation of self to self; the application of self to the life in all kinds of relationships; the choices or decisions made in the course of the daily life. The knowing & the understanding of the self as well as the understanding of others; the basis or the motivations. There can be an increase in social activity through the opportunities for same via invitations for the one-on-one interaction or the group gatherings with family & friends.
Be self-aware & aware of any environment whether of the moment or of longer term.
Look ye to the personal ideals; what ye would have in the life & proceed accordingly.
Edited to add: I am in a Lovers Year. As 'tis my Personality/Soul Card, the year is especially significant in terms of the journey towards goals.
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| BlueLotus |
09 Dec 2003 |
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Thank you MeeWah,I quote
A Lovers Year has the potential resolution of existing issues or situations but is not limited to just one's love life per se. It also pertains to the relation of self to self; the application of self to the life in all kinds of relationships; the choices or decisions made in the course of the daily life. The knowing & the understanding of the self as well as the understanding of others; the basis or the motivations. There can be an increase in social activity through the opportunities for same via invitations for the one-on-one interaction or the group gatherings with family & friends.
I hope that the year will be all I think it would be, since I need to get in touch with my inner feelings, and, on the outside, with some estranged members of my family as well .
Sending Love to all
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| Inana |
10 Dec 2003 |
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Thanks for that MeeWah!!
2004 will be Lovers year to me too. I was thinking it will mean lot of choices to do, based on feelings. And a year to find something (or someone) that fullfills us in an especial way.
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| MeeWah |
10 Dec 2003 |
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Feebie & Inana: In its highest form, divinatory means offer unmitigated guidance. Predictive elements can be involved with such guidance as they tend to be part of the general life's endeavor to meet one's self on all levels.
The concept of balance is aligned with healing, especially as it may pertain self-healing.
Thus, within the teaching of 6-The Lovers can be found balance & healing. Actually, the concept of balance is inherent in all the cards & hence, the opportunities offered for same in any given year.
In balance, there is the weighing of choices or options; finding that "perfect" medium or equation to not only fit one's sensibilities, but expresses one's core. The fulcrum is the core.
In healing, there is the appropriate communication of the needs from which one may extrapolate a course of action. Thus, 'tis imperative to know the self; to be able to be truthful with self. A foundation of self-knowledge provides the means with which to deal with whatever may be encountered.
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| Inana |
11 Dec 2003 |
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MeeWah,
I love your insights. Specially about knowing the self and expressing the core. Thanks again! :)
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| rubricat |
11 Dec 2003 |
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Regarding a Death year...
Seems a few of us (including me) have a Death year coming. While I generally see this card as fairly positive, still can't help but be a little worried. (It's that imagery!)
As a little bit of synchronicity, this article came to me. http://www.tarotpassages.com/deathart-ga.htm A little moral support.
Hope it helps my fellow XIII year people ... has anyone started up that support group yet? ;)
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| VGimlet |
12 Dec 2003 |
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Ugh, my death year isn't until the year after, 2005, and I'm already stressing. :eek:
I'm happy this is my Year of the Hanged Man, I'm looking forward to a year where everything is a bit on the stagnant side, after the previous few years of...challenges.
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| lunalafey |
12 Dec 2003 |
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VGimlet- you'll be prepared- no need to stress. I going straight to starting the DEATH year support group right now....with that you will see how things go a year ahead of time!
thanks for passing on that link rubricat
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| raeanne |
12 Dec 2003 |
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Hi Vgimlet,
You and I are both on the same track. I have a Hanged Man year coming up followed by a Death year. Actually I am really looking forward to my Death year. The one person at work that causes me the most difficulty will be retiring in 2005! This will definately be the death of this relationship and I can hardly wait! Sometimes Death is a GOOD thing!
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| destinyawaitsme |
12 Dec 2003 |
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This year was the Heirophant, and next year is the Lovers.
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| bonnycat |
12 Dec 2003 |
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Well this year has been a hanged man sort of year part of my new years resolution was not to start anything new and to finsh old projects (like tarot) or shell I say work on them more thoughly
So next year is death not sure how I feel about that yet seems like I have had enough change recently don't realy want more. can't stay here forever though. support group here i come
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| Red Emma |
12 Dec 2003 |
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Dear Rubicat,
Thanks for the Tarotpassages link. I feel a whole lot better about taking a "death" year. Since the changes described in TP are pretty much what's happening to me anyhow, I guess I can quit worrying about the scary part of receiving a "death" card year.
Goddess bless
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| TemperanceAngel |
12 Dec 2003 |
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Sorry to intrude, but I take my year card from my birthday, which is in July.
Currently 21+7+2003=2031=6
So on my birthday will be Chariot year, HOORAY, so that means as I finish my degree it will be a Strength year, even better and that means when I was enrolling in my degree it was a Heirophant year, makes sense!
XTAX
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| Moongold |
12 Dec 2003 |
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The year card as MeeWah says, is actually calculated on one's birthday.
The inner experiences of that card cycle from birthday to birthday.
Greer suggests that the year goes from January to December in terms of things happening to you and that is the outer cycle. I think she only does that because that is our calender system and society tends to do the same.
For those of us who have birthdays right at the end or the beginning of the year it hardly makes any diffference. As my birthday falls in this category I might as well look at both cycles as one.
Does that make sense, MeeWah?
Moongold
(About to enter a Hermit year, having been under a misapprehension during most of the last year:) )
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| lunalafey |
12 Dec 2003 |
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moongold: [/b]"might as well look at both cycles as one."[/b]
in one way it makes it more simple, for there is now overlapping of internal and external.....then again, there is a sudden shift, (especially for me with a dec. 31 b-day!-lol-) from internal and external and both at the same time....My external year card is moving from XII to XIII for 2004....but XII does not leave me for it goes from the out side to the inside.....
and leaving behind an internal justice/strength:(
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| Moongold |
12 Dec 2003 |
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Luna,
The way I understand it now (MeeWah please help :) ), On your birthday this year your year card becomes the Hanged Man and you retain that card until your next birthday 31/12/2004 when you got to XIII (Death).
I do something similar. My birthday is also just before Christmas and I then enter a Hermit Year and change next birthday to Wheel of Fortune.
If this is correct, our inner and outer cycles can almost run in sync. For me personally that makes a little more sense. We can't have all the internal change in just a few days.
I made a mistake this year. I calculated my Year card in 2003 and got Hermit whereas I should have done it on my birthday in 2002 and got VIII Strength.
Moongold
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| MeeWah |
12 Dec 2003 |
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TemperanceAngel: The birthday to birthday method makes more sense since it provides an up-close & personal look at the immediate influences & forces. That which pertains to the events in the life. The correlations can be uncanny.
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| MeeWah |
12 Dec 2003 |
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Moongold: It also depends on when one sees as the beginning of the year (which can also be due to cultural or other influences). I personally do not see January as the beginning of an individual's year because January is not a universal birth month.
I see no harm in incorporating the other method to include the beginning of the conventional calendar year to designate the worldy influences (though it could cause some confusion). If, however, ye examine the aspects & prevailing forces of the life during a year, ye will see that they moreorless match up with the actual birthday year, from birthday to birthday with even some overlapping. Oft the incoming year will manifest before the next birthday--if not the actual Major, ye will see it in the appearance of the minor arcana aspects.
Ye are correct regarding Luna's (from my point of view, anyway). With a birthday of December 31, then the year being calculated is from 2003 to 2004. Thus, the 2003 Year Card is 12-The Hanged Man until the next birthday in 2004.
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The Your Year Card changes on January 1 thread was originally posted on 28 Nov 2003 in the Using Tarot Cards board, and is now archived in the Forum Library. Read the active threads in Using Tarot Cards, or read more archived threads.
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