Repeat Tarot Pattern - WHY?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 11 Nov 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

GoddessArtemis	11 Nov 2004
Hi everyone. I hope this is the correct thread for this question... When I do readings for myself...there are three things that have come up most often in regards to my relationship questions in a spread. I'd say at least 60% of the time overall, the following 3 things come up the most often: 1. Six of Pentacles (This comes up A LOT! Morgan-Greer deck) 2. Suit of Wands 3. Number 9 While I realize the placement of these in a reading makes a difference, I'm very curious to know why do these three things come up so often? And why do I feel such a block in understanding the significance of these 3 things in my relationship readings? Thanks!

Kahlie	11 Nov 2004
Dear GoddessArtemis, I know recurring cards can be very difficult. There are some good Spreads to deal with them. (See later in the post) Off the bat, without the positions: 6 of Pentacles: Are you sharing on an equal level? Giving/Receiving? Is one of you very dependent, or the other sacrificing? It's not only in money matters but also in emotional and physical levels. Be wary of having an unequal relationship Wands: Is there still that spark of passion? That Spark in the relationship? Do you still feel creative or passionate for each other? The Number 9: I'm not a numerology wizz (ask others for it), but 9 follows up to the Hermit. To introspection and enlightment, or to feeling lonely instead of alone. Or to the need to find guidance and help. It's also the semi-final step before the 10, completion. I don't know if you get a lot of 9 of a Suit, or if the whole Spread counts up to a 9. Just my 2 cent, Kahlie Spreads that might help: Dynamical Daily Trial Card : http://www.nodntap.net/tarot/daily_trial_spread.shtml Recurring Cards : http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?p=330310#post330310

Fulgour	11 Nov 2004
The 6 of Pentacles represents "prosperity and charitable acts." The very beatific astrological association is the Moon in Taurus. When I look at the 6 of Pentacles from the Morgan-Greer deck I see someone looking at me ~ right back ~ straight in the eyes. The hands which reach up so beseechingly seem only hopeless, since the man with his Golden scales is keeping his Golden coin. It's all for show, a public display of philanthropy, of no benefit except to the self-righteous hypocrite so apparently charitable. Morgan-Greer VI Pentacles

GoddessArtemis	11 Nov 2004
My girlfriend's Moon is in Taurus. Do you think this is in reference to her? The hypocrite that's apparently charitable...?

WalesWoman	12 Nov 2004
I would think in regards to relationship, that 6 Pentacles would be about the give and take in a relationship, your last comment, sounds sort of like it isn't feeling mutual, or you are giving more than you are getting? I think the wands is passion yes, but it's about growth and conflicts too. Lots of energy, but also using it like a big stick and knowing when to duck. So my guess here is there is a lot of ego energy, people wanting to have their own way or strong opinions, leading to a lot of defensive posturing. Definately not passive or bored, busy, busy, busy, almost frenetic energy. But my bet is it's more about egos...sort of 5 Wands type of confrontations. 9 is almost the end of the cycle...fullfillment of something,sovereignty, preparations, reflection, commitments of some sorts or reaching resolution. There is the Hermit aspect too, going within, solitide, discovering what you need and want, maintaining a sense of self, finding the courage to do that, the wisdom to attain that. So in a relationship I could see the sense of this card showing up a lot, it's so easy to lose ourselves, submerge our desires in order to maintain the status quo...leading to repression and oppression, or sense of self sacrifice (6 Pents), or someone thinking you are being selfish, when stating that need for self suffiency, time to be your own person, feeling like you have to defend yourself and your needs, or justify them. Becoming stuck in a rut, like the Morgan-Greer 9 Swords- bound up/hands tied, caught up in a pattern you can't think your way out of, or even playing a role in a relationship, that isn't neccessarily who you are. But it's also the contentment and joy of the 9 Cups, enjoyment and satisfaction, satiation and good times too.

Fulgour	12 Nov 2004
GoddessArtemis wrote: My girlfriend's Moon is in Taurus. Do you think this is in reference to her? The hypocrite that's apparently charitable...? "Presents, gifts, and gratifications" is a traditional meaning for the 6 of Pentacles. I'm sorry if my delving into the way the Morgan-Greer presents the RWS illustration was harsh. The image on this card may be a reference to something we have lost the story to? It always gives me an uneasy feeling.

GoddessArtemis	12 Nov 2004
WalesWoman, a lot of what you reference sounds close to the truth...the energy, the ego battles, losing oneself--or struggling to maintain one's individuality in a situation. Fulgour, how do you mean that card gives you an uneasy feeling?

Fulgour	12 Nov 2004
In the illustration created by Pamela Colman Smith in 1909 we see a well-provisioned gentleman, nobly holding a scale. The suggestion is he is being very fair about providing alms to the poor beggars grovelling at his feet. Oh, how wonderful. If he was sincere, would he make such a public display of his selflessness? He wants the whole world to see how good he is. Maybe I've got it wrong, but I'd go so far as to say the fix is in, and while the 'beggar' on the left is happily awaiting his coins, the poor guy on the right, hatless and patchy, receives naught. Perhaps Mr. Generosity hired a stooge to 'give' the coins to... Colman Smith 6 of Pentacles

Fulgour	13 Nov 2004
I've been thinking about this, and on second thought now feel the message of the 6 of Pentacles is simply: "Beggars can't be choosers."

GoddessArtemis	13 Nov 2004
That's an interesting point, Fulgour. Hmmm, beggars can't be choosers...so I'm wondering, if I were to relate that to my relationship question (which often is something like "Can you give me some insight into the nature of my current relationship") and this card comes up...who's the beggar in this situation? Not me; nor, do I believe, my girlfriend. Maybe it means this is the best that it's going to be for a while...under the circumstances, which are rather uncertain and shakey. I dunno, what do you think?

Fulgour	14 Nov 2004
Pentacles signify the element of Earth: Practical Stability ~ tangibly physical material aspects of the world. Keywords for Number Six include: Nurturing Protective Responsibility Domestic Community Sympathetic Fastidious Viewed independently of illustrated imagery, the 6 of Pentacles betokens powerfully generative forces operating directly upon your environment. :)

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