Ignoring the message...and suffering the tarot's wrath!

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 20 Dec 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Ivy Rhiannon	20 Dec 2004
Ok guys...sorry for the new thread. I'm sure someone on here has asked you all this same question. I've looked briefly for a simular thread but to no avail. I've been having some trouble understanding readings for myself. I look it over and think i have it, but then something happens and it's like that "aha" feeling. Yesterday I learned an important lesson: never ignore the cards, just because you are having a hard time inturpreting them. I almost lost my job because of it. And the funny thing was I did a reading the other day and the ten of pentacles was reversed in the outcome position! You would think...I would think ok hmmm...chance I might lose my job, better take the nessasary percautions. But no! As a matter of fact I remember looking at the card and saying "Huh? No that can't be right! I'm not going to lose my job!" :eek: OH THE STUPIDITY! ANGERING THE TAROT GODS! :mad: Needless to say I blew off the reading and the last two days at work have been hell! See I taught myself how to read the cards. My mother disapproved of me reading them, so she didn't help me, and I didn't even know there were classes out there you could take. Until recently I have always thought I have been a pretty good reader. Now it just seems, like there's more to the card, but nothing i can put my finger on. I mainly run into this problem reading for myself, but sometimes I stumble onto the same problem with others. I know as we grow so do the tarot cards meanings. But sometimes its like the cat has my tongue. I thought maybe it was because i didn't understand the "full" meaning of the cards that came up or maybe, like someone on here sugested (sorry I can't remember who!):l, maybe I was having trouble with those particular cards. ex: people w/finacial issues, have a hard time inturpreting cards with those meanings, ect. But now I'm begining to think thier's something more to it. I wish someone would have taught me to keep a journal. Now I am realizing this stuff after a reading and am having a hard time trying to record it. I've been working on developing my intuition, and studing the cards more in depth for the past few years. And never have I run into so much trouble! I've even ruled out not wanting to see the message, in fact i want the opposite! I want to know how to better understand them. Maybe it is time for a new deck... :confused: Any advice guys would be helpful! I have tried to solve the problem on my own, but sometimes you just need someone to tell you...Look here's your trouble!

contradiction	20 Dec 2004
don't let this problem bother you too much. even those of us who have been reading for a while still have this trouble occasionaly. especially when reading for ourselves. i have completely given up reading for myself, i refuse to do it. i had no one "teach" me. i watched a few people, bought my first deck, "learned" the book meanings, and then found out how to make the meaning fit the reading. i have been reading for somewhere between 15 and 17 years, and still draw a blank at times. and recently i chose to ignore an outcome, because i did not believe what it said, and i am now regretting it. this will happen you just have to learn to trust the cards, this is something that you will be learning the rest of your life. contradiction

Imagemaker	20 Dec 2004
Underneath the frustration at missing messages and the blankness at not understanding a spread is a human resistance to change and pain. We can't believe a certain thing could be possible, we don't want to face what might be coming. And we're so impatient for the things we want, we just can't stand to wait--when the cards may indicate a long delay comes first. There's no quick fix in this. Learning more about the cards, reading more accurately, can help the messages get through, but we still have to accept them--that's the toughest lesson of all.

Lurea	20 Dec 2004
I had the same thing happen when I did a reading about a much-anticipated surprise vacation I was planning. I couldn't believe the mean cards that turned up, and I totally ignored them. Oh yeah-I got my just desserts when I sprang my 'surprise'. Those cards were spot on! :rolleyes:

Thirteen	20 Dec 2004
Hey, we all face this problem when we read for ourselves. We'll easily (or not so easily) spill bad news to a querent, but when it's ourselves gazing at that reversed 10/pents or Tower card, well...let's just say the spin doctors in our heads get to work. "That can't be right...." Is a common refrain. We do the same with advice from any friend that we don't want to hear or believe. Like when that friend tells us the person we're dating is all wrong for us--they can't be right....can they? And then it turns out they were right and we wished we'd listened to them. But we can't blame them if we didn't listen--or if things went really wrong because we didn't listen. They might be mad at us for not listening, but what happened to us, hey, that's all our own doing. Ditto with the Tarot. I mean, it wasn't like the cards said, in a Godfather voice, "I'm going to give you some advice...I suggest you take it....or else!" There's no "Revenge of the Tarot" here :D It's just a wise old friend. It says, "I'm seeing things clearer than you, and if you don't watch it, this will happen." When you don't listen, and it does happen, your wise old friend simply shakes its head and sighs, "I did warn you...."

Alice23	20 Dec 2004
Hi Ivy, I've got to say I agree with thirteen and what everyone else has put, i have this sometimes, too, and with me it got to the extent where i end up putting the 'bad' cards, or rephrasing that, the cards which I know aren't good and probably the ones I relate to the most! If that makes sense. I think theres an element in everyone who does tarot that doesnt want to hear the negative stuff, myself definetely included in this one!I often find as well if I ignore a card, it'll just keep on coming out at me, kind of in a look at me I'm trying to help you here and you're not listening way! Even tarot readers who've been doing it for years, I'm sure, have the same problem, so try not to worry, its not you, happens to all of us at some point! Alice x

bladeraven	20 Dec 2004
sounds so much like me...except the end of a relationship this morning for me...sigh...

other	20 Dec 2004
Alice23 wrote: Hi Ivy, I've got to say I agree with thirteen and what everyone else has put, i have this sometimes, too, and with me it got to the extent where i end up putting the 'bad' cards, or rephrasing that, the cards which I know aren't good and probably the ones I relate to the most! If that makes sense. I think theres an element in everyone who does tarot that doesnt want to hear the negative stuff, myself definetely included in this one!I often find as well if I ignore a card, it'll just keep on coming out at me, kind of in a look at me I'm trying to help you here and you're not listening way! Even tarot readers who've been doing it for years, I'm sure, have the same problem, so try not to worry, its not you, happens to all of us at some point! Alice x I know I can be pretty stubborn about what I want and what I think I deserve and what is right and wrong and, quite frankly, none of it has brought me any closer to the things I want! I think most of us are raised to be disciplined, focused and goal-oriented -- and I think all of these are extremely important, no matter who you are or what you do. But they must be tempered with openness and a willingness to change directions, wander off the path or onto a different path or just unload some luggage along the way, so that the journey can be lighter. So much easier on paper than in real life!!!

Ivy Rhiannon	21 Dec 2004
Thirteen wrote: I mean, it wasn't like the cards said, in a Godfather voice, "I'm going to give you some advice...I suggest you take it....or else!" There's no "Revenge of the Tarot" here :D It's just a wise old friend. It says, "I'm seeing things clearer than you, and if you don't watch it, this will happen." When you don't listen, and it does happen, your wise old friend simply shakes its head and sighs, "I did warn you...." LOL! I can so picture that! :D Thanks guys for replying! Yeah those cards are hard to believe, and accept into our lives. Sorry to hear about your loss bladeraven, but as they say out with the old in with the new! It just seems not only with the "bad" cards, but with the good also...its all a mess...but atleast I know I'm not alone! Hey maybe we should start a Tarot Reader's Regect Club! LOL :D

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