Using tarot to manifest something

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 10 Dec 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Fudugazi	10 Dec 2004
Do any of you use tarot cards to manifest something (a thing, a person, a job, an energy, peace of mind, whatever) in your life? Or in another person who asks you? If so, how do you go about it? Is it ritualised or improvised? Do you mix tarot with other means of manifestation? Do you read for guidance on how to manifest? A bientôt :)

Flavio	10 Dec 2004
I've a sample of improvisation, I had a couple of sessions with a psycologist at that time I used to pull 3 cards for the day, and every Friday I got the High Priestess, so my therapist became the "guardian of the subconscius" it happened without me "asking" the Tarot to show her through that card. gargoyle_guarded and contradiction have touched the topic of programming the cards in this thread and also here, I suppose the programming process would be equivalent to ritualise the card meanings.

Gigi	10 Dec 2004
in Donald Michael Kraig's "Tarot and Magic". At least I THINK that was the book and author (sorry I'm so fuzzy about details right now). Anyway, if I remember correctly, you selected a tarot card that represented what it was you were trying to manifest in your life -- like maybe the Lovers for a love relationship or the 3 of Pentacles or 8 of Pentacles for a job (thiese cards are based on the RWS deck but of course you use whatever deck suits you); then you were to engage in a sex act (solo or w/a partner) while focusing on the object of your manifestation during the act. At the moment of orgasm, you were to look at the tarot card you had selected and focus mightily on manifesting that object or state of being into existence. I'm looking for the book and if the title/author are different from what I've listed above, I'll issue a correction. I haven't tried this myself but the ritual described was essentially the same as another sex magic manifestation ritual I read about in "New Witch" magazine so I guess that would be either a pagan or Wiccan spiritual path. In that ritual you were to create a sigil -- a written representation of whatever you were trying to manifest. You did this by writing down a statement about what you wanted to manifest, e.g., I want a new laptop computer. Then you were to cross out all duplicate letters in that statement and the remaining letters formed your sigil. You placed the sigil where you could see it, engaged in the sex act (again, either solo or w/a partner) concentrating on what it is you want to manifest and at the moment of orgasm, looked at the sigil, focusing on the object of your manifestation. Again, I haven't tried either ritual for myself but it makes sense -- there's an awful lot of energy raised during any sexual act and essentially what you're doing is focusing that energy which peaks at the moment of orgasm on one particular point -- whatever you're trying to manifest. Blessings, G.

Fudugazi	10 Dec 2004
Thanks Flavio - interesting synchronicity of the psychologist and the High Priestess! But it's not really what I was trying to ask - I probably didn't express myself very well. I meant using the Tarot to bring something into your life - e.g. a new job, a holiday, or peace of mind after a trying time. Using Tarot as a way of creating your life, rather than reading to see if something is on its way (although the two are not incompatible). There was a thread on spells, whcih I found interesting, and one on intention: but I'd like to widen both those discussions to all means of using tarot to manifest something in your life. Ritualised, improvised, or something entirely personal!

Fudugazi	10 Dec 2004
Gigi wrote: Anyway, if I remember correctly, you selected a tarot card that represented what it was you were trying to manifest in your life -- like maybe the Lovers for a love relationship or the 3 of Pentacles or 8 of Pentacles for a job (thiese cards are based on the RWS deck but of course you use whatever deck suits you); then you were to engage in a sex act (solo or w/a partner) while focusing on the object of your manifestation during the act. At the moment of orgasm, you were to look at the tarot card you had selected and focus mightily on manifesting that object or state of being into existence. -there's an awful lot of energy raised during any sexual act and essentially what you're doing is focusing that energy which peaks at the moment of orgasm on one particular point -- whatever you're trying to manifest. Yes, it sound feasible - although it's an energy that is notoriously difficult to channel! I had to smile, though. Orgasm in French is sometimes called La Petite Mort - you die, for a short while. You loose consciousness of what is happening around you. You float. In that case, how to focus, at the very moment of the little death? (and if you are making love with someone, how to stop him from grumbling "stop staring at that stupid card when you should be staring at me!" - especially if you've put the Lovers card alongside your bed, because you're fed up with that one and want a new one!!!)

firemaiden	10 Dec 2004
Well funny you should post this. Just last night I did what I talked about in my Intention vs. Divination thread, and went through the deck pulling out the cards I wanted to help manifest something; I lay them all out in spead - in a sort of chrological order of how I intend things to develop. Lets see if it works :D

Chronata	10 Dec 2004
Lately, I have been using the tarot to act as a focus along with manifestation exercises. So far, it does seem to work! I have no ritualized or specific way to do this...I usually use a small bank box where I insert little slips of paper that have my intentions written on them. Then I choose a tarot card and put it behind the box until the manifestation has occured! I am currently working on manifesting a NEW CAR! So that Chariot card has been up there a while! :)

April	10 Dec 2004
I often use Tarot cards in spellwork. Some people use certain candles, or statues or whatnot to focus energy, but I like cards. I like the book Tarot Spells by Janina Renee. The spells are pretty simple and straightforward and each one has a meditation to go along with it. I think this book is usable with or without actually performing the spells. Laying out the cards and meditating is sometimes produces the same effect. They are also very adaptable. I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but it gets results. Peace, April

Red Emma	10 Dec 2004
I've been so fascinated by this subject of late that I've done a whole lot of reading; also attended a class given by an ordained (new age) minister at a local new age shop. I think the critical components are these: 1) Identify yourself with Spirit in the sense that, beyond the knowledge of Newtonian physics, we all are connected, each to the other and to every living and inanimate thing in the Universe. 2) Since you are a part of this perfection, what you desire all ready exists within you. 3) State what you desire. Write it down, and as you write it down, visualize and deeply feel the statement. For instance, I was worried about my roses as, at 78, I can't give them the care they need. I wrote that "my roses are beautiful and healthy. Disease free. Their soil is rich and full of nutrients." And as I love them so much, the emotions and the visualizations came freely. 4) It's very important to add to the written desire, "For the good of all, according to free will, and it harm none." 5) Then, as the minister said, "Let go and let God." In other thread on this subject, members have said that when they write down their desires, they then put the paper in a box. And forget about it. I think the 'putting it in a box' is the psychological equivalent of 'letting go and letting God.' 6) Several authors have ideas about what to do in stage five. Mostly, I think, go about your business and assume that your desire will manifest in some form or other. I've found, as with my roses, that the manifestation will take place as some ordinary-seeming part of your ordinary day-to-day life. It will not seem magic at all. But you know will know magic when you see it. And feel very good about your place in the Universe.

amyel	10 Dec 2004
Helvetica wrote: Yes, it sound feasible - although it's an energy that is notoriously difficult to channel! I had to smile, though. Orgasm in French is sometimes called La Petite Mort - you die, for a short while. You loose consciousness of what is happening around you. You float. In that case, how to focus, at the very moment of the little death? (and if you are making love with someone, how to stop him from grumbling "stop staring at that stupid card when you should be staring at me!" - especially if you've put the Lovers card alongside your bed, because you're fed up with that one and want a new one!!!) Donald Micahel Kraig also speaks of this by using Tantra, not solely in the sexual way (the way most Westerners think of Tantra), but in a more "magical" or "spiritual" way. I wish I could find my notes on this topic - I attended a lecture he gave on this at "Convocation" in Michigan last year. At any rate, Kraig may go into more detail about channeling sexual energy for magical purposes in his book (yes, I think it is "Tarot & Magic).

ferrous	23 Dec 2004
Wow. Interesting thread. I've never tried anything like this before, but reading everyone's ideas is fascinating. Sorry for the inane reply, but I kind of wanted to bump it up & see if anyone else has anything to add, as well as express my interest. :)

Fudugazi	24 Dec 2004
OK, here is what have been doing since I started this thread: I have done a reading for myself on a subject that was preoccupying me. I laid out cards for the situation (very apt cards they were, too) and then another line for advice. Since the reading also concerned another person, I asked about his point of view(in the first line), and what he needs to do (in the second). Then an outcome card in the middle of those two cards (an outcome which I would like to manifest). A final card for "what or who can help with this". I am now concentrating on my advice card and on the "helper" card; I also think about the other person's "advice" card (not really advice, more like -"this is what he needs to do freely", since he was not consulted). And finally on the outcome card, which I asked to be "best possible outcome for us both". I am concentrating now on manifestation through these four cards. Not in a manic way. Just holding these things gently in my mind, almost in a detached way (that took some practice). There is no time limit. We shall see what happens. I'll keep you posted.

Major Tom	24 Dec 2004
This is serious stuff and has the potential to cause harm, whether intended or not, both to self and others. I would strongly recommend something that Donald Michael Kraig mentions in both his Tarot & Magic and Modern Sex Magic books. Before starting a spell, perform a reading asking the question, "What will be the outcome of performing my spell?" Armed with that knowledge of what will happen, you can decide whether or not to proceed. Without that knowledge, you don't really know what you're doing. Please know what you're doing before you try a spell.

Fudugazi	24 Dec 2004
Major Tom wrote: This is serious stuff and has the potential to cause harm, whether intended or not, both to self and others. ... Before starting a spell, perform a reading asking the question, "What will be the outcome of performing my spell?" Armed with that knowledge of what will happen, you can decide whether or not to proceed. Without that knowledge, you don't really know what you're doing. Please know what you're doing before you try a spell. I'm not sure if we are talking spells here - I was thinking more of "intention" and focus. Of course, your precautionary note is a good one generally. Otherwise expressed as "be carfeul what you wish for..." if we -and other's - are not to suffer the fate of the sorcerer's apprentice...

Major Tom	24 Dec 2004
Helvetica wrote: I'm not sure if we are talking spells here - I was thinking more of "intention" and focus. Of course, your precautionary note is a good one generally. Otherwise expressed as "be carfeul what you wish for..." if we -and other's - are not to suffer the fate of the sorcerer's apprentice... Intention and focus are components of a spell - at least to my way to thinking. Call it magic to manifest. ;) You described what you are doing. Sounds like a spell to me. Standard excuses apply - my opinion only - your mileage may vary. Yes, the sorcerer's apprentice is a good warning. :) It always helps to know what you really want. I see you performed a reading to start. ;) Maybe try another and ask, what's going to happen?

Fudugazi	24 Dec 2004
Major Tom wrote: I see you performed a reading to start. ;) Maybe try another and ask, what's going to happen? That was my "helper" card - my guidance card. It was V-Le Pape ;) I consider myself well led, now I have the Bridge! I shall probably ask him what he wants me to know - but I like to take my time with readings - give myself the opportunity to absorb cards before asking for new ones.

WhiteRaven	24 Dec 2004
For what it's worth Helvetica, since the onset of my problems with the Social Worker in regards to my son, I have taken the Queen of Pents and the Page of Cups OUT of my Hanson Roberts (I've always looked at the Page of Cups as my son) and I have placed them inside the circle of sweetgrass that is upon my altar. I simply asked the God/dess for protection for myself and my son and it seems to be working. Things seem to be falling in place and there is more co-operations with everyone all the way around. I don't know if you would consider this "manifesting" something in the terms you are looking for within this thread. But, I thought I would share something that I do that I feel works quite well.

Fudugazi	24 Dec 2004
I've been hoping for a resolution for you and your son, WhiteRaven. I am glad you are finding help in the Tarot. Yes, I would say it's a form of manifestation that you are carrying out. You asked to manifest a situation where you are able to be the mother you wish to be (the Queen of Pentacles, good choice!) to your son. If you say things are falling into place, it's wonderful, may it continue to resolve itself and eventually you can reach the situation that is best for you and your child.

Lurea	27 Dec 2004
Helvetica wrote: I am now concentrating on my advice card and on the "helper" card; I also think about the other person's "advice" card (not really advice, more like -"this is what he needs to do freely", since he was not consulted). And finally on the outcome card, which I asked to be "best possible outcome for us both". Helvetica, you are doing what I would call a 'spell' but it sounds like you have been pretty careful with it. I refer specifically to your inclusion of the word 'freely' and the phrase "best possible outcome for us both". This kind of language is what many spellworkers (beginning and otherwise) miss. You always need to leave room for the other person's free will, otherwise you are coercing, possibly entrapping them. Not good for your karma. :D It's sooo tempting to phrase your intentions on what you want (especially if what you want is for him/her to LOVE you!) but that seductive easiness comes with a price. And the price is your own free will impinged upon at some point, with corresponding pain. Believe me, I know. :D I was young and stupid once. *snicker* If you find this intriguing, invest in some good magic books. Personally, I love Marion Weinstein's "Positive Magic." It is aimed more at the beginning magic user, and manages to be both easy to understand and yet very deep. I still refer to it, and I've been spellworking for years. :) Blessings!

Fudugazi	27 Dec 2004
Lurea_aure wrote: If you find this intriguing, invest in some good magic books. Personally, I love Marion Weinstein's "Positive Magic." It is aimed more at the beginning magic user, and manages to be both easy to understand and yet very deep. I still refer to it, and I've been spellworking for years. :) Blessings! Thank you for the encouragement. I am taking a few timid steps in this direction after discussions on this forum and privately with some members of the forum who have been very helpful. I am learning to suspend disbelief - but this still has the flavour of experiment for me. I had a look on Amazon uk for the book you recommend. A copy was going for 81 pence! Too good to resist.

Lady Mary	27 Dec 2004
This is a very interesting thread and I enjoyed reading all the comments. What I really find interesting is that everybody seems to assume that "spells" work one way or another. A couple of years ago my little daughter had one cold after another, one middle ear infection after another, and I was very depressed about the situation. And I was so sick and tired about having to give her another load of antibiotics. I tried to concentrate and focus all my healing energy on to her to "send the beginning illness away" and "to give her body strength". I also used "spells" I had created myself. I never succeeded.

Fudugazi	27 Dec 2004
Lady Mary, is your little girl better now, or does she still get all those illnesses? I am very new to this topic. I have known people get cured through force of mind (focus, spells if you like) and others not. Maybe one day there'll be an explanation as to why it sometimes works and others not. I know that when I drive in town I always find a parking space because I expect to find one and focus - lightly - on parking spaces, and don't have any other thoughts on parking spaces either way. But my sister has great trouble because although she says she focusses on finding a space, what she is really focussing on is the fact that there are none available.

firemaiden	27 Dec 2004
Major Tom wrote: This is serious stuff and has the potential to cause harm, whether intended or not, both to self and others. I would strongly recommend something that Donald Michael Kraig mentions in both his Tarot & Magic and Modern Sex Magic books. Before starting a spell, perform a reading asking the question, "What will be the outcome of performing my spell?" Armed with that knowledge of what will happen, you can decide whether or not to proceed. Without that knowledge, you don't really know what you're doing. Please know what you're doing before you try a spell. Gosh, Tom, this strikes me as odd. It is still beyond me to understand why anyone would change their course based on an outcome spelled out in (someone's interpretation) of the cards, rather than trusting their own purpose and intention. If your intention is aligned with spirit, and with a higher purpose, and it is stated that it is for the highest good for everyone, the intention cannot be unfolded without love. How can it bring harm?

Major Tom	28 Dec 2004
firemaiden wrote: It is still beyond me to understand why anyone would change their course based on an outcome spelled out in (someone's interpretation) of the cards, rather than trusting their own purpose and intention. It's a matter of personal responsibility. Despite the best of intentions and purpose things can always go wrong. This is as true in life as it is in magic. A reading performed before casting a spell can and will show what might go wrong. With that information, one can responsibly decide whether or not to proceed.

firemaiden	28 Dec 2004
I agree with you about personal responsibility... so much so, that I wouldn't abdicate that to the cards.

Major Tom	28 Dec 2004
firemaiden wrote: I wouldn't abdicate that to the cards. This really boils down to a question of belief. Do you believe a spell using tarot will shape reality? Do you believe you know the outcome of your actions? Do you believe using tarot provides you with the truth? }) I do not understand how consulting the cards on any topic represents any kind of abdication. :confused: Do you not make up your own mind? It really is about personal responsibility. ;)

Lurea	28 Dec 2004
Helvetica wrote: That was my "helper" card - my guidance card. It was V-Le Pape ;) I consider myself well led, now I have the Bridge! I shall probably ask him what he wants me to know - but I like to take my time with readings - give myself the opportunity to absorb cards before asking for new ones. Helvetica has asked for guidance and gotten Le Pape; which she considers a positive answer. I don't feel qualified to argue with her about the interpretation of the card or what it means to her--she has to trust her own intuition. ;) If someone is really set on doing a spell, even pulling a card like 9 swords is not going to dissuade them: the capacity of the human animal for self-delusion is pretty huge. Most of the magic users I know in real life have done some bad karma spell work when they were young and should have known better--and have paid the price, LOL. I have both pulled cards prior to beginning a spell and not pulled. Nowadays, I do usually ask. And it's maybe a coincidence, ;) but my spells seem more effective, too. Lady Mary, there are a ton of reasons why spells don't work, and healing spells are difficult. Even experienced magic users have spells that don't work, and you also have to remember that the manifestation can take a looong time, and may occur in a totally unexpected way.

firemaiden	28 Dec 2004
Major Tom wrote: Do you believe using tarot provides you with the truth? }) nope, sorry. I don't "believe" using cards can provide me with anything like the truth, or the untruth. Although I think it is an amazing tool for exploration of ideas, and for brainstorming. (Just being honest here). Of course... it depends on what kinds of questions you ask them. If you ask "what will happen if I rob a bank" -- duh... do I really need the cards to tell me the answer to that? But lets say for example, I ask cards: "is it okay if I rob a bank, what will happen?" In fear and trembling I shuffle, and draw the 2 of cups, and the World. Aha! it means, I will find love and happiness and own the world if I rob a bank. Does that then give me permission to rob a bank? Oh please! But then... someone else might come along and say - you didn't interpret those cards correctly: you should have interpreted it to mean: "you will be fastened with handcuffs (2 of cups - literally - attached to another person), and placed in your own little world ( a prison cell)." See? What role do the actual cards themselves play in this interchange? Nevertheless, some readers are gifted with some kind of "sight" that is undeniable....

Osher	28 Dec 2004
Truth? What is truth? Truth changes. It's all perspective. It's the story of the 3 blind men, and the elephant. There is no one truth, unless you tie down the parameters, and even then, there are usually still options. The art of the Tarot reader is the seperate the chaff from the wheat, to find the kernal we are looking for. That is, to seperate the various truths, for the one we are after. Yet, to also be aware of the other truths. This is why I say (as does Douglas Adams!), as important as the answer is the question. Moreover, frame the question properly, and the answer is often apparent, without a Tarot reading. As for the future? The future is not set in stone. I have been both gifted and cursed with occasional fore-sight. I sometimes remember the future. However, what I have seen is that the future changes. It can be altered. In the best example I can think of, I had a weird dream. Months later it happened, exactly as I had seen it, and I knew everything that was going to be said, a long time before it was said. Except, that is, one sentance. That means, one person changed their future. So, what is truth? It depends what you are after.

Rosanne	28 Dec 2004
Everyday I draw a card with the express intention of putting that card into action. So I manifest that cards message into life. Example todays card is Estensi 7 Coins, which is about, among millions of other things, delay or useless effort. I dont delay or spend time uselessly(I hope). I look for an opportunity to be productive or not delay someone, because I have thought about the waste of time or what punctuality means etc. If you get my drift. I meet someone who is negative and I try and manifest the Sun into our conversation. It always seems to work. I have never drawn the Tower, Thank you Universe. I have without ceremony or ritual meditated on the Ace of Coins, because I needed money quickly and the manifestation has occured, without fail. Regards Rosanne

Fudugazi	29 Dec 2004
Lurea_aure wrote: Helvetica has asked for guidance and gotten Le Pape; which she considers a positive answer. I don't feel qualified to argue with her about the interpretation of the card or what it means to her--she has to trust her own intuition. ;) I did trust my intuition, and also your obvious reservation, which I recognised as both genuine and experienced - and I waited a while. I have the cards out that I want to focus on but I am not consciously doing any spell (as I understand spells, being such a neophyte). I feel that there is some huge responsibility, and I have been burnt in the past for not following my intuition, so now I want to go slow. I see V- Le Pape blessing me and pointing me to the right - my future. But I am no longer 20 and I need some more from him. Poor Pape, he is very long-suffering ;) So after several days of dithering, and reading this thread, I decided to do that reading and ask Le Pape if I should do that spell (it still seems weird to use that word). I took out one of the kindly but firm looking popes (the Noblet, very small card, but the Pope is probably the best card of the whole pack). Then I read with the Tarot of Prague, because it works well for me, is powerful and doesn't beat about the bush; it is also beautiful and suited for questions of emotion and artistic creation (both are involved in my dilemma), being such a "water" deck. I asked why I was dithering so much why I couldn't decide to do that spell or ditch it - I received the Queen of Swords: hey, no surprise, I am cautious because I have seen life and been burnt and now I am smart. Then I asked where it was Le Pape was helping me get to - what was he a Bridge to? - I received XX-Judgement. So I am going towards renewal and the creative perils - Death, the Devil, the Tower - are behind me ;). I think that's what it means. Next I asked - well, what have you to tell me about me and this other person? - Ace of Staffs. A powerful and very active card, one of initiation. It seems to take up the theme of renewal, the phoenix (a fire bird). Finally I asked what I really wanted to ask: what would happen if I did this spell and committed to it? I received XVII-the Star. I saw that gentle maiden pouring her jugs of water, which are ever filled from an invisible source. An image of peace, of replenishment, of knowing where one fits in life. For me too, an image of artistic inspiration transformed into creation (the water that flows out of the jugs without ever tarishing: this other person and I were half-way through a movie we were making together, when he suddenly disappeared from the radar screen). In the Tarot of Prague, too, there is a lion-shaped fountain in the background: a symbol of protection, and of justice. So I think, and being kind to that long-suffering queen of Swords (so haunting in the Tarot of Prague - not beautiful, but radiant), Today, after a day's skiing, I shall set myself up to do that spell. Gently, and with all the generosity I can muster for the other person (Lurea, I really do believe in the freedom of all, and in an outcome good for both, whatever that is - I had not seen it as precaution, but as a reflection of my profound beliefs). All the thoughts on this thread have helped me - including firemaiden's who does not abdicate her responsibility to cards ;). I don't think I do either, rather, I use the cards as lights through a dark forest.

Fudugazi	29 Dec 2004
firemaiden wrote: I don't "believe" using cards can provide me with anything like the truth, or the untruth. Although I think it is an amazing tool for exploration of ideas, and for brainstorming. (Just being honest here). Of course... it depends on what kinds of questions you ask them. If you ask "what will happen if I rob a bank" -- duh... do I really need the cards to tell me the answer to that? But lets say for example, I ask cards: "is it okay if I rob a bank, what will happen?" In fear and trembling I shuffle, and draw the 2 of cups, and the World. Aha! it means, I will find love and happiness and own the world if I rob a bank. Does that then give me permission to rob a bank? Oh please! Ronnie Briggs found love and owned at least a portion of the world (in Spain)...at least for over 25 years, he did }). He robbed a train and the public loved him, and he met a gorgeous bird in Spain and was happy there for many years. Finally he got homesick and went home and was arrested. There's no accounting where folk heroes will come from, and bank robbers seem to loom large in the pantheon, despite their violence. Maybe the Tarot will show that, too - it's one form of truth. I wrote in a previous post I saw tarot as lights in a dark forest. Tarot can be a beacon: but it does not take away my responsibility. I can be mistaken as to where that beacon is pointing, and must make up my own mind in the end. I too, like you, see Tarot as useful for initiation and brainstorming (I hate that word - let's say "exploring of possibilities"). But I do receive strong intuitions and it is always when I don't follow them that I get hurt, or hurt other people. So I've learnt the hard way. Whether that gives me the sight or no, I don't know. I call it "the stomach" ;)

Ivy Rhiannon	09 Jan 2005
I've recently done this. I was in trouble at work because my car had broken down, and I was being constantly late, or not being able to make it in. When I read my cards, the outcome was 10 of pents reversed. I laughed it off, and almost lost my job! Now I believe the tarot's outcome is not set in stone. It is the future of the path we are currently on. However when you know your future, you can change it... So out of desperation walking to talk to my boss, I visualized the spread, and saw me turning the card right side up and said an affirmation. Needless to say...I'm still employed. I think the tarot is an excellent magical tool. And magic can be as simple or complex as you like. Good luck with this Helvetica! :)

Ivy Rhiannon	09 Jan 2005
firemaiden wrote: But then... someone else might come along and say - you didn't interpret those cards correctly: you should have interpreted it to mean: "you will be fastened with handcuffs (2 of cups - literally - attached to another person), and placed in your own little world ( a prison cell)." See? What role do the actual cards themselves play in this interchange? Nevertheless, some readers are gifted with some kind of "sight" that is undeniable.... Humm...that's the thing about tarot I think. I believe everyone has the "sight." Each person is connected to the cards in thier own way. The tarot reveals the cards that the reader will inturpret in truth. Yes everyones perspective is different. However had another read for him, they would haven't gotten different cards...I think. Interesting story about the bank robber Helvetica!

TemperanceAngel	12 Jan 2005
My first work I ever did with the tarot, was to use it to help me manifest things. Choose the cards I thought appropriate or needed that energy and then lay them out somewhere or pop them under my pillow....I still do it :D It works, oh how it works....I have a deck these days used specifically for that reason :D

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