4 Of Rods....

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 13 Jan 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Chubby Mummy	13 Jan 2005
How does someone feel when they feel 4 of rods towards you??? many thanks cm

Fudugazi	13 Jan 2005
Randy

huredriel	13 Jan 2005
could be coming together as a family

northsea	13 Jan 2005
they want to go on vacation with you, or party.

Thirteen	13 Jan 2005
I agree with Huredriel. They want to solidify the relationship; passionate, yes, but they want to set those four wands around the both of you, so that your passion forms a foundation for a long-term relationship. "Randy" is too light a term for this, too frivolous for 4/Rods. 4/Rods is far more exclusive in its lustful energy, far more concentrated. 4's are very solid cards. Like a chair you sit on. I doubt they'd indicate vacation or any other kind of trip, unless its a retreat--a place you're going to go to and stay at for a while. Ditto with a celebration; yes, 4/wands could indicate a party, but nothing light or casual. It's a celebration that involves family and parents and best friends. A wedding or anniversary party where you two can be seen as a serious couple.

cSpaceDiva	14 Jan 2005
That you are someone they can count on, someone who is stable and trustworthy.

Francesca	14 Jan 2005
cSpaceDiva wrote: That you are someone they can count on, someone who is stable and trustworthy. And I would add that as such, they want to include you in their life and activities. But in and of itself, this card doesn't indicate a real depth of feeling or love. That would be indicated by other cards. Francesca

Chubby Mummy	14 Jan 2005
Well, today i did another reading and got the following: how he thinks things are: 2 of cups, how things really are: 2 of wands, how he sees me: 4 of wands... would this indicate love?

huredriel	14 Jan 2005
I'd say from this, he doesn't believe you're serious about the relationship being over (and I think he's right), also he probably feels like you are reconciling, both trying to come together again, Hmm 2 of wands, I see a balancing act, take little baby steps, neither should push the other too hard. You need to come together and work together. 4 wands - Hhe sees you as his rock, you are his family, solid foundation, but its not the completed family unit of 10 cups, lots of work still to be done on this relationship, like I said earlier - coming together as a family. So yes I believe it is indicative of love, but moreover, the foundation of family I think is the bigger message. Hope that's helpful, at work without my cards so trying to recall from memory. Hope you're ok x Huredriel

Francesca	19 Jan 2005
Chubby Mummy wrote: would this indicate love? Ask the fellow. When you ask the cards what someone else is thinking or feeling, it's a form of second guessing that person. The cards require interpretation on the reader's part and sometimes clarification on the querents. But in this case, the querent is not around so in effect, you are asking the cards to interpret his feelings then you must interpret the cards. Francesca

Grizabella	19 Jan 2005
I agree. Ask him. There needs to be good communication in any relationship, so the most accurate answer you'll have is in communicating with him directly, not second guessing through cards. Maybe a better question you could ask the cards would be "what should I be aware of to further my relationship with him in the healthiest way for both of us?" rather than trying to ask the cards what he's feeling.

WalesWoman	19 Jan 2005
Francesca and Lyric are right about this, although asking someone how they feel about you is taking a frightening risk. How well I know...having avoided these sorts of things until curiosity became greater than the fear. Asking how someone is feeling with Tarot is ... probably something just about all of us do when we are afraid to acknowledge something probably as plain on the nose of our face, but are too afraid to look in a mirror to do it. Tarot may give you clues, but he's the only one who can really give you the answer. 4 Wands...definately a solid foundation to build something greater on is how I look at this, something real to believe in, a reason to celebrate and find joy in. With cards like these...can't you feel it when he is around? Don't you see it in his eyes when he looks at you or the way he touches you or seems to gravitate towards you? or is it, past experience that is making you doubt something you know on a deeper level and don't trust what is before your very eyes? Has the High Priestess been showing up too lately?

Thirteen	19 Jan 2005
Chubby Mummy wrote: Well, today i did another reading and got the following: how he thinks things are: 2 of cups, how things really are: 2 of wands, how he sees me: 4 of wands... It's not "love" per se. He thinks there is romantic attraction between the two of you. But how things really are...well, now we're back to "randy" ;) It's not romantic attraction, it's sexual attraction. And, once again, he sees you as a foundation on which to build a solid relationship. This is really quite simple--he's very sexually attracted to you but he thinks it's romance instead of sex and he thinks that a relationship with you might develop into...the one. The operative word being "may." He's not going to start talking about family and children with you just yet. Now here's a question for you--what's going on? I scanned through the posts and you never tell us what the situation is here. Do you like this guy and want to know if he likes you? Or did you have a relationship with him, broke up, and now can't decide if you want to get back together again? If so, then be aware, it's sex even if he doesn't know it--not love. And he's going to want the relationship to be exclusive if you get together.

Chubby Mummy	20 Jan 2005
WalesWoman wrote: Has the High Priestess been showing up too lately? Yes! Why??? How did u know??

huredriel	20 Jan 2005
Thirteen wrote: Now here's a question for you--what's going on? I scanned through the posts and you never tell us what the situation is here. Do you like this guy and want to know if he likes you? Or did you have a relationship with him, broke up, and now can't decide if you want to get back together again? If so, then be aware, it's sex even if he doesn't know it--not love. And he's going to want the relationship to be exclusive if you get together. LMAO Cm - are you going to answer Thirteen LOL, cos I already know the answer!! Hope you're doing better this week anyway x Huredriel

Chubby Mummy	20 Jan 2005
yes yes!! xx cm

Fudugazi	20 Jan 2005
Chubby Mummy wrote: yes yes!! good. You want another reading?

WalesWoman	21 Jan 2005
waleswoman wrote: Has the High Priestess been showing up too lately? Chubby Mummy wrote: Yes! Why??? How did u know?? lol I'm not psychic, but the HP starts showing up when it's something you know and aren't seeing, atleast she does for me. She reminds me I should look at things deeply and within me rather than looking for answers from outside. It's usually when it's something I really do know on a deep level but haven't been ready to admit to myself. That is also why I asked you those other questions, not for me to know, but for you to think about.

Chubby Mummy	21 Jan 2005
Hmmmmmmm Waleswoman... very very true... thank u !! xx cm

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