7 of cups as the outcome
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 21 Mar 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| Marquise |
21 Mar 2005 |
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I'am currently thinking of going through a sort of spiritual if you could say inner journey and workings with a belief system from the Golden Dawn. It is an occult group, and I
am highly considering the possibility of going through it. However I was curious as to how this would affect any future romantic relationships between me and someone else since with many spiritual inner workings, issues can be brought up that you need to face. As the outcome I got the seven of cups in a celtic cross spread. I understand that it talks about illusions but how else can it be relating to this question? What advice can be given to handle the situation?
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| tarotbear |
21 Mar 2005 |
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In a 'love' situation the Seven of Cups can indicate the relationship holds great promise, or at least will provide you with 'connections.'
Always remember that the Seven Cups is about choices, or sometimes having too many choices. Choose wisely and disregard the rest.
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| Marquise |
21 Mar 2005 |
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Great promise and connections? How is this so? Thank you for your reply.
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| tarotbear |
21 Mar 2005 |
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There is one side of that he will provide you with the stuff of your dreams.
There is also the aspect that although he may not be the permanent one, he will at least be able to point you in the right direction, or introduce you to others who can.
Remember, the Cups represent possibilities.
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| Thirteen |
21 Mar 2005 |
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I think Tarotbear's got the right of it--but just to clarify: Your question was how going on this spiritual journey would affect your relationship with this person? You're already involved with them? And this person is not going to join you in this spiritual quest?
If that's the case, remember that any person who gets involved in any new spirituality usually starts to ask questions about their life, their reality. So where before you were fairly sure about how you felt towards this person, you may not be so sure after you enter on this path. You may see other possibilties--some real, some not real.
For example, this path may make you question monogomy. Or it may introduce you to other potential romantic interests (internet chatrooms on the subject, for example, with interesting teachers or fellow students). Or it may make you feel that your relationship with this person hasn't been true at all--was it illusion?
And by the by, it may not be easy on that other person. It's like suddenly saying, "I'm thinking of going Kosher, trying it out...." --well, now the other person is going to be dragged along, like it or not. They can't just go out to have a cheese-burger with you, can't make you Kung Pao Shrimp for dinner (their speciality!). Suddenly, you're separating from them--changing. To make matters worse, you're going to want to TALK about this. If it becomes fascinating, important to you, you're going to want to share what you learn. What if they don't get it? Aren't interested? Don't repond as you'd hoped? What if they think you're nuts or frightening or just embarrassing? And in the meantime, different possible futures are opening up before you--where you might go spiritually and romantically.
You see what I mean? Lots of cups. In the end, the card is telling you that if you do this, you're going to end up with a lot of new "visions" about your current romantic partner. You'll see several ways that you can go with romance, some true, some not true. What you've got to remember with the 7/cups is not to just stare at the different cups, or grab the one which takes your fancy. Investagate and decide if any of them are real rather than pure speculation, illusion, imagination.
The Golden Dawn is a very cerebral spiritual path--it will be all too easy to forget your heart along the way and so be confused as to where it is.
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| Marquise |
21 Mar 2005 |
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Thank you for your replys. I will have to think deeply now. Should I perhpas do a reading on how I can help improve the relationship while I'am performing golden dawn works?
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| Thirteen |
22 Mar 2005 |
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Thank you for your replys. I will have to think deeply now. Should I perhpas do a reading on how I can help improve the relationship while I'am performing golden dawn works?
It's hard to answer that question without knowing more about the relationship and your interest in the Golden Dawn. For example, how serious and important is this relationship to you? Are you just dating or engaged? How long have you been together?
And then there's the Golden Dawn--how long have you wanted to study it? How far do you think you want to go with it? Could it wait or do you feel a very strong pull to start studying it now?
Think about these things before you formulate a question about keeping the relationship strong and focused while traveling this new spiritual path.
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| Adjustment |
22 Mar 2005 |
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I think Tarotbear's got the right of it--but just to clarify: Your question was how going on this spiritual journey would affect your relationship with this person? You're already involved with them? And this person is not going to join you in this spiritual quest?
If that's the case, remember that any person who gets involved in any new spirituality usually starts to ask questions about their life, their reality. So where before you were fairly sure about how you felt towards this person, you may not be so sure after you enter on this path. You may see other possibilties--some real, some not real.
For example, this path may make you question monogomy. Or it may introduce you to other potential romantic interests (internet chatrooms on the subject, for example, with interesting teachers or fellow students). Or it may make you feel that your relationship with this person hasn't been true at all--was it illusion?
And by the by, it may not be easy on that other person. It's like suddenly saying, "I'm thinking of going Kosher, trying it out...." --well, now the other person is going to be dragged along, like it or not. They can't just go out to have a cheese-burger with you, can't make you Kung Pao Shrimp for dinner (their speciality!). Suddenly, you're separating from them--changing. To make matters worse, you're going to want to TALK about this. If it becomes fascinating, important to you, you're going to want to share what you learn. What if they don't get it? Aren't interested? Don't repond as you'd hoped? What if they think you're nuts or frightening or just embarrassing? And in the meantime, different possible futures are opening up before you--where you might go spiritually and romantically.
You see what I mean? Lots of cups. In the end, the card is telling you that if you do this, you're going to end up with a lot of new "visions" about your current romantic partner. You'll see several ways that you can go with romance, some true, some not true. What you've got to remember with the 7/cups is not to just stare at the different cups, or grab the one which takes your fancy. Investagate and decide if any of them are real rather than pure speculation, illusion, imagination.
The Golden Dawn is a very cerebral spiritual path--it will be all too easy to forget your heart along the way and so be confused as to where it is.
Very good explaining Thirteen, I have just learned something new.
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| Elven |
22 Mar 2005 |
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Hi Marquise - I like Tarotbears explanation there, and the others too. I sometimes - not always - but in this case, see the seven of cups as a question mark rather than an answer.
Do you or will you know what you really want at the end of all this - will things be any clearer or better? It is not a clarifying card. There will be many options and some of those may not be what they seem. Grasping into thin air to retirieve something of value and of substance because you feel you've got to get at least something out of this - it has to be worth it senario - while still feeling confused. Only one can be the pot at the end of the rainbow and the rest seem to be a gamble.
I feel it relates more to the journey or path that you are about to embark on than what you already have.
It maybe beneficial to clarify exactly why you are embarking on such a move and what you hope to achieve with the wealth of knowledge that you gain. It maybe hard to chop and change throughout the process - like "well I dont like this cup - maybe I should choose this one instead - no,no, this one". This is the scattered aspect of this card. It becomes blurred and confusing. Not to say your partner wont be confused also, he will be a passenger on this journey as well.
I hope thishas helped a little. Take care and good luck
Elven x
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| Marquise |
22 Mar 2005 |
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Thank you all for your posts. This will definitly take some thinking.
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